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39 minutes ago, Edwardkenway said:

I found that Homebase stocks the Ronseal poly varnish, in gloss, satin and matt, Wickes also do a satin poly varnish but only in 2.5ltr tins.

Thanks for the info. I live in a small town, with a 50 min drive to the better equipped / stocked stores in Hull, York or Middlesbrough.

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57 minutes ago, James H said:

That really looks like it's coming along very well, and your adjustments have nailed it with the bulwark to deck fit.

Thanks for your support, it is greatly appreciated. It is starting to look nice. I'm looking forward to adding the deck features in the next week or two which is when the model comes to life for me.

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I have a question regarding blackening PE parts. I am planning to use AK Interactive  Brass Photoetch Burnishing to blacken some parts, such as the eyebolts, hooks, etc. I am interested to know what method should be used to clean the PE parts before the application of the AK product.

 

For example should I clean as follows:

a) Using a toothbrush clean the parts with soapy warm water to remove any grease

b) Once cleaned with soapy water brush the parts with white vinegar.

c) Finally clean the parts with clean water to remove all traces of the white vinegar

d) Apply the AK product to blacken, probably two applications will probably be required to get the best result.

 

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I am currently waiting for delivery of some products, such as the polyethene matt varnish which is due for delivery this week I pondered what to do. I thought I would start this post with a picture of the fore and aft decks.

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Firstly I removed the various patterns from the pear wood sheets and I did dry fit these parts. I plan to soak the rail patterns in hot water later today so they can be clamped to the hull to dry overnight.

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When removing the wales I noted that the only the binnacle parts remained on the pear wood sheet. Therefore I decided to remove these parts so I could assemble these deck item. This turned out to out to be a fun task. It does not really require a detailed explanation of my build method but I have attached a set of photo's of the various stages.

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I thought I would replicate the photo in the build manual in the next photo

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I then decided to see how the stern fascia panel would fit. It seemed to be a reasonably good fit but it would not sit flush with the upper stern counter pattern. The problem was quickly solved by adding a chamfer to the lower edge.

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There is a bit of damage to the upper stern counter (top right corner) which I did when removing some of the excess planking material. This is is not a big issue as it can be filled before the blue paint is applied.

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1 hour ago, James H said:

A good degreaser is acetone or nail varnish remover. There should be no need to wash afterwards, but you can just rinse them in water. 

Hi Jim

Thanks for your information. I had run out of acetone, but I have a new supply on order which should arrive later this week.

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This afternoon I decided to assembly the spiral staircase. This is a very nice looking staircase and just like the binnacle it was a straightforward assembly task and does not require any detailed explanation of my build method, see pictures below.

 

Parts ready for assembly. I did number the parts in size order.

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Assembled Spiral Staircase

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Dry Fit of Spiral Staircase - bottom tab has been located in lower deck slot but the top does not sit flush with hatch opening unsupported

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Glue will be used to ensure the staircase is joined to the hatch opening when fitted, below the ladder is held in the correct position (dry fit)

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The upper rail was soaked and clamped to the hull last night without any problems. I have now soaked and clamped the lower main rail.

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Bent upper main rail and catheads

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Lower Main Rail Clamped

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I have received the hull primer today, I'm just waiting for the polyethene varnish which has been dispatched before I can start painting the hull. This primer will also provide the final white finish.

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I have made a start with the rudder assembly. When I tried a test fitting I noted a problem with the fitting as the assembly would not fit through the lower stern counter. This will require a bit of work to open up the gap. I am pleased I have discovered this before I had painted the stern counters.

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The rudder will not fit through the stern counter hole

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I have also made a start on the mizzen bitt assembly. I have removed the char from the visible areas and I have also rounded the top edges. When I tried fitting the mizzen mast bits in the aft deck cut outs the two leading bitts fitted in without any problems. The two aft bitts are sitting proud due to the bulkhead which is sat underneath. I have two options. I could trim the excess material so they sit  flush, noting I will have to remove the same amount of material from each bitt. Alternatively I could try to remove some of the bulkhead by drilling down 2 or 3 mm and then squaring the hole using a craft knife, sandpaper and files. I am more inclined to trimming the bitts as this is an easier option and will not cause damage to the aft deck.

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The aft bitts are sitting proud

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The bulkhead can be seen in the picture below

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On 12/14/2020 at 6:12 AM, glennard2523 said:

Hi Jim

Thanks for your information. I had run out of acetone, but I have a new supply on order which should arrive later this week.

 

I used white vinegar to clean all my metal parts for blackening without an issue.  I have acetone but only work with it when absolutely necessary as it's quite toxic and can be absorbed through the skin.

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On 12/14/2020 at 9:00 AM, glennard2523 said:

 

Assembled Spiral Staircase

That spiral staircase is a wonderful detail in this model!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

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A day for filling in time while I continue wait for some essential items to be delivered.  I started by soaking the 4 wales (2 per side) in hot water for 30 mins and they were then clamped to the hull so they can retain the required bend once they have fully dried out.

 

Next I checked the fitting of the following deck items which seated in their various deck openings without any problem.  I also removed the laser char from all the visible surfaces which was quite time consuming.

 

a) Gallows and Main Mast Bits

b) Ship’s Bell Standard, Head Stock and Belfry Fascia

c) Bowsprit Bitts

d) Windlass (Bitts and Front Pattern)

 

The polyurethane varnish was finally delivered this afternoon so I plan to apply to this to decks (fore and aft) and Bulwarks (inner and outer) tomorrow morning and they will then be left to dry for 24 hours. Once dried I can apply the blue and red paint to the outer bulwark patterns.

 

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The Duchess is now in the paint shop. I decided to paint the hull white before adding the rails and wales. I have applied plenty of tape to the hull (above the water line) and I have also protected the deck areas.

 

In the picture below the hull has had one coat of paint. This is going to take time to complete as I will have to wait for the paint to dry before sanding, filling and applying further coats. Fingers crossed there will not be any leakage

 

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I have sanded, filled and applied a 2nd coat of paint and it is starting to look better but does now require another application of diluted filler in a couple of areas, mainly around the stern post area.

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I'd never trust myself with spray paint at this point on the model, I'd inevitably get some over spray.  Best of luck!

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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I have continued with applying coats of white paint below the water line today. In between coats I have been giving the hull a light sand and I have continued to apply filler where needed.

 

The hull is looking (and feeling) smooth, but it is not as smooth as Jim's prototype build.

 

I will give the hull a few more coats light coats of paint tomorrow before removing the tape for the big reveal!

 

I have applied some diluted filler to the stern area, hence the brown tinge on the photo below

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Looks smooth and blemish free midships.

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The bow area is not perfect but overall it looks reasonable OK

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The stern area has been the most difficult area to get smooth, as can be seen below

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I have now completed the hull painting task. The hull looks smooth and sleek and (almost) fit for a Duchess. When I removed the tape there was a small bit of leakage around the stern and bow area. Using some acetone and warm soapy water applied with some cotton bud sticks I was able to remove the excess without too much difficulty. Good job I applied a polyurethane varnish coat above the water line before I started painting.

 

I will leave the paint to fully dry for 24 hours before I neaten the painted edge line (if needed) and apply the clear polyurethane matt varnish finish. I am happy with the end result, it is by no means perfect but is good enough for me. Once the deck features, hull decorations, masts and rigging has been added no one will inspect the hull paint  job that closely anyway.

 

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1 hour ago, James H said:

She is looking smart. You started painting the bulwarks yet?

Hello Jim

I plan to start later today/tomorrow. I've been tweaking the hull paint job around the stern this morning. When I checked the finished paint job with my waterline marker I noticed a slightly error which I have now corrected (hopefully).

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I have now moved on to painting the outer bulwarks (blue and red), main rail patterns, wales and cappings.

 

I started with the outer bulwarks patterns and applied the blue paint (Humbrol Matt Blue No.25) as shown in the picture below.

 

Bulwark taped and painted blue

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After that I applied the red paint to the outer bulwarks patterns (Vallejo Model Color 17 ml Acrylic Paint - Scarlet). There was a little bit of bleeding, but as can be seen on the third photo when the main rail was dry fitted the bleed is hidden.

Stern area

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Bow area, where a bit of bleed can be seen.

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Main rails dry fitted, bleeding is hidden.

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I then moved on to the main rail and applied the black paint to the rear window frame patterns and to the front curve. I also applied black paint to the bulwark capping and to the wales.

 

Rear Main Rails

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Bow end of main rails

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Cappings

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Wales are drying in a vertical position, using clamps.

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I have now added the two rails to the hull which as added an extra dimension to the hull. I think it will look amazing once I have added all the PE decorations. I have also added the capping to the bow area. The wales have been painted and bent and are ready to be installed. I'm just debating the best method. I am not a fan of using ca and I would prefer to use pva but I will need to find a method to clamp the wales if I use pva.

 

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Occasionally, both for the gunwales and main wales (the latter if they are single strips), I will just pin them in place with little to no glue. I then cut off the exposed parts of the pins and sand smooth and then touch up with paint.

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3 minutes ago, chris watton said:

Occasionally, both for the gunwales and main wales (the latter if they are single strips), I will just pin them in place with little to no glue. I then cut off the exposed parts of the pins and sand smooth and then touch up with paint.

Thanks Chris

I was pondering using pins or maybe elastic bands

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If the wales are pre-bent and have no stress trying to pull them away, you should be able to just hold them in place for 5-10 minutes by hand until they set up, and not need to clamp them at all.  I've found that if my PVA is just a very thin coat (not runny at all, just a super thin coating) and I put that on both pieces prior to gluing and let them tack up just a bit, then finger pressure is sufficient for them to grab and not need clamping at all unless they are not pre-fit correctly.  I did a lot of my hull planking without any clamps at all using this method.

 

An alternate method if you don't want to pin as suggested by Chris is your rubber band method.  Just use some light scrap wood blocks to run the rubber bands around so that they are pressing against the wale.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Happy new year. Posted this on Jim's log in error (now deleted that post).

 

Progress on my build did slow down over the last few days due to forming a child care bubble with our new granddaughter.

 

I have fitted the wales and cappings to the hull. The wales proved to be more problematic than I was expecting. I had to remove and refit the port side to get them looking right. I'm not sure what I did but the top wale started and finished at the right points (according to the plan drawings) but drooped somewhat around the midships. Once the lower wale was fitted the bottom edge was far too close to the water line. I did ponder leaving it as fitted but decided it would be better to remove both wales and start again. I used a strip on my 2mm tape to set the correct line for the upper wale. Once that was fitted I used  another length of my 2mm tape to set the correct line for the lower wale, maintaining the 3mm gap between the wales.

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I then proceed to paint the stern area blue (sorry no photo) and then moved on to painting stern decorations. The resin upper part has been painted blue and gold. The fascia panel has been painted red and I have added a black backing sheet behind the windows.

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The PE parts have been cleaned in acetone and given a couple of light coats of white primer and are now ready to be painted gold and white as necessary. It was not easy to get a decent photo of the white primed PE sheets.

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