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WASA 1628 by Cpt_Haddock - Cannon port – 1:15


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Before getting starting with the Sovereign of the seas and after finding a Wasa cannon in scale 1:15, i decided to try to build a section with a upper cannon deck port. The cannon is missing some details.

 

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I have the Wasa book with nice drawings and first I will try to do a cardboard model to get an idea of the size required and wood needed.

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I think it will be quite big - and heavy. I am wondering about what parts will be visible or not. I have cut some wood and dried but now I think I have to re-think the amount of wood and size of planks. I have not given up yet.

 

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Finished the paper model and thinking about going forward with using wood.

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Have not yet decided the width - or keeping the deck round cannon holes or not. The section is now from the main mast area.

I have found at least two kit that has a similar design - I think this was Corel:

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This below is not a Wasa kit but the above is, but one idea could be to skip upper cannon deck.

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I have run into some issues though.

 

- The cannon (my) is a lower cannon deck type. It seems that the ship had a similar on upper cannon deck, but slightly lower.

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As the cannon (my) is on upper cannon deck, the cannon port gets to low.

 

Also, as can be seen below, the cannon port on the ship (wreck) and museum model has different sizes. Some are wider and most on upper deck is more narrow than on lower deck. So I don think i will care less about the size . I could modify the cannon also but.. We will see.

 

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Here is two ports:

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Hi, slow progress but some new:

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I found some fresh wood that I used but soon realized I had to buy some dried from store.

So I bought Walnut and linden wood. And then I needed a electric saw too..

 

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Yes, as the fresh wood got drier it got hard as (apple tree) - not so easy to cut and work with. The linden was so much easier.

 

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Nice to see you starting to make saw dust 😀
 

I have recently started to read up on the research on Vasa. I’m contemplating to build something similar to what you are doing, possibly a cross section. I will follow closely.

 

Where did you find the gun?

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On 4/2/2021 at 7:05 AM, bolin said:

Nice to see you starting to make saw dust 😀
 

I have recently started to read up on the research on Vasa. I’m contemplating to build something similar to what you are doing, possibly a cross section. I will follow closely.

 

Where did you find the gun?

You are so right, It keep coming saw dust every were even when using the vacuum cleaner insert connected to the saw. The saw was nice but on the small-side for the Walnut - it so much nicer to use the Japanise hand saw - and the mini carpenter's plane I have.

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2 minutes ago, Cpt_Haddock said:

You are so right, It keep coming saw dust every were even when using the vacuum cleaner insert connected to the saw. The saw was nice but on the small-side for the Walnut - it so much nicer to use the Japanese hand saw - and the mini carpenter's plane I have.

Regarding were I found the gun: I found it in my parents garage - like the "pickers" on Discovery channel. I have an idea of making one more gun out of clay for the main deck.

 

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I put some oak stain on the bright wood and tried to get a different nuance on the horizontal bars. I will have some planking on the "floor" put gaps so the structure underneath is visible.

 

had problem getting the right angles on this part - in the lower picture. The vertical beams are a little convex.

 

 

 

 

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Haddock

I believe the Wasa carried 24 pounders and 3 or 4 pounders thus the size difference in the cannon, the carriages,  and the size of the gun ports as well as the distance from the deck to the the gun port cills and ledges.     I look forward to how the clay cannon project goes as this is a new idea for me.    I can see a clay cannon being made and used to make a silicone mold then casting the barrel in casting resin or pewter which will hold up very well compared to clay, but I still find your idea intriguing and anxious to see the results.

 

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On 4/14/2021 at 4:43 PM, allanyed said:

Haddock

I believe the Wasa carried 24 pounders and 3 or 4 pounders thus the size difference in the cannon, the carriages,  and the size of the gun ports as well as the distance from the deck to the the gun port cills and ledges.     I look forward to how the clay cannon project goes as this is a new idea for me.    I can see a clay cannon being made and used to make a silicone mold then casting the barrel in casting resin or pewter which will hold up very well compared to clay, but I still find your idea intriguing and anxious to see the results.

 

In 018 I visited the Vaset Museum for a second time. I was very lucky to also spend an hour with Dr. fred Hocker. He showed me one of the research areas where they are prepping additional displays; and we did speak about the odd combinations of guns aboard.

Dr. Hocker said that the king had demanded an additional gun deck be built as well. Turned out that the Swedish navy was short on guns at that time so the Vasa, for its launch, was fitted with several different types guns that happened to be available. 

 

DeAgostini and now the new Artesenia Latina (kit looks very good) are the only Vasa kits that replicate the odd variety of guns that were mounted for its launch.

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Hi, I found this page about making cannons for the Wasa museum 1:10 ship.

 

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It fits what Michael suggests, main artillery of 24 pounds guns (48 in all) whereas some heavy 4m (I guess for bottom gun deck) and a shorter (3m) light version for upper gun deck.

On upper weather deck there was some 1 pound falconers (<1m), some 3 pound culverins (3m) and 6 Howitzers [stormstycken] of caliber 20, 42 and 82 pounds (1.7m, 2m and 2.7m length).

 

Swedish war ships 1600-1649

 

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Ooops!

 

 

 

 

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Hi, some new updates:

 

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Final gun deck. Some planks not mounted to show whats beneath. 

 

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I will also show the upper sides of the bars sticking up above the weather deck. I think I will only have one of the cannon holes on upper deck - not both.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I will solder them and paint them black.

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