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Golden Hind by Tomasz B - OcCre - 1/85


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Hi All.

Started this kit while ago , i wish to hear some comments what i have done right  and wrong . 

Imo Instruction from this kit is very basic-not explaining everything for beginner like me especially rigging is not very clear.

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The ultimate arbiter of "did right" or "did wrong" is the look of the finished product. So far, your model looks very good, especially for a first wooden ship, so I'd say that you have done mostly quite right. Keep up the good work!

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Good day ,

Dear Tomasz,

Your model looks very nice... however  I would reccomend to read this GREAT book written world famous author(in ship model making and history receach) which will help You a lot!

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/JU7C/bVhk9VrXn

There You will find description od every rigging line You will need to arrange on Your galleon model ...

All The Best!!!

Kirill

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Please check and read nearest treads about our friends building the same model as You are busy with :)))

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 Tomasz,

By my opinion, there are a few ways to make rigging:

*to build exactly as suggested in your kit

*to build as existing relica

*to build as suggested in the books Andrson and Mondfeld- regarding proper rigging arrangements but maybe not exactly as your model kit suggested

*to build as Mayflower II rigging

*to build as Aker siggested| developed by eugen.t in his reconstruction 

 

to avoid repeating all the same information  again

please check recently posted drawings in nearby treads of GH and Mayflower buildings as we discussed  rigging variants just a few days ago...

from my point of vew there is most interesting rigging plan for GH made by eugen.t based on Aker reconstruction...

 

 

Golden Hind-T5A1.pdf

GH 01.jpg

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I think it will not be wrong if You make it the same lenght as top mast height

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Well done for your first wooden ship.

Congrats.

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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7 hours ago, Tomasz B said:

Don't know how to call it but just make my own didn't liked from kit the metal one.

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kit parts replaced by own work
That is  the modeling microbe That strikes you 😉

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Good day,

Your kevels Looks nice , much better than original ! :)

however acording to R.C.Anderson this is Dutch type of kevel, english type should be more "round" shape such as shape of the kit's kevels...

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Anderson RC scan 001.jpg

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4 hours ago, kirill4 said:

Good day,

Your kevels Looks nice , much better than original ! :)

however acording to R.C.Anderson this is Dutch type of kevel, english type should be more "round" shape such as shape of the kit's kevels...

kevels scan 063.jpg

Anderson RC scan 001.jpg

I found it as well in this book but also found this picture of golden hind,,replica in London i am just thinking how accurate due to plans the replica is  🤔

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Good day,

Tomasz,

Steering wheel!!!???😁 on 16 th centure galleon ???

looks very strange...

I think may be better discard this replica details as quidance and better follow information from Anderson book?

I know there are two GH replicas exist ...

one is just tourist atraction and another one much more hystoric accurste... posted foto of which one ?

Is this foto of this replica?

If Yes , I don't know why they choose this type of kevels

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But one moment ,

There is another buitiful reconstruction of elizabethian galleon by Peter Kirsch, and He used the same type of kevel as You did...

so probably You did acceptable choise !:)))

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Those type of kevel which Anderson refers as english type, we could see on the contemporary english models 17- 18 cenrures

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17 minutes ago, Tomasz B said:

Yes steering wheel make me laugh 😅 as well but they did that to make their life easier i think when they sail this ship some time ago. Definitely my next ship build i will better follow the book. Thanks 😊

I know Mayflower II replica had steering gear wheel which was arranged in purpose for transatlantic voyage , they also arranged foot ropes for convinience working with sails, but it was artifucial additions which couldn't be seen on the vessel in 16-17 centures

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Good day Tomasz,

foot ropes -Why did You make them / is it in the kit's manual?

Actually ,during galleon era and well

 till the end of the 17th centure foot ropes were not known ...and not used...

as example ,one of the Willem van de Velde drawing - no foot ropes...

but this is already mid of the 17th century...

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