dgbot Posted June 2, 2014 Share #421 Posted June 2, 2014 Nothing wrong with white. But I have always had trouble getting a decent coat. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #422 Posted June 2, 2014 DavidIt may take a few thin coats, but I will be able to get it done. In all of the contemporary pics of these schooners, the chainplates and lower deadeyes are always painted, so this is really the way to go. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 2, 2014 Share #423 Posted June 2, 2014 considering the scale of your build Russ.........they look very good! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #424 Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks. I am taking refuge in the scale limitations and a coat of paint. Seriously, I am hopeful that I can improve on this method as time goes on. It is always a learning process. All the same, I think the next one will be at the larger scale. That will make things a lot easier. Russ riverboat and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted June 2, 2014 Share #425 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) A fellow modeler I know who goes for 1/350 WWII once told me that a well done coat of paint and hide a hundred mistakes. David B Edited June 2, 2014 by dgbot Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #426 Posted June 2, 2014 That sounds about right for me. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpsutton2 Posted June 2, 2014 Share #427 Posted June 2, 2014 The late great Donald McNarry said a good job of rattling down would hide or at least distract from a multitude of mistakes Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #428 Posted June 2, 2014 Michael: That sounds like good advice. I hope to one day be able to do a better job at this scale. Practice makes perfect they say. I will settle for pretty good. Russ src 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted June 3, 2014 Share #429 Posted June 3, 2014 I think your past the pretty good stage Russ. Sam mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #430 Posted June 3, 2014 Sam: Thanks for those too kind words. I am learning new things with every part I make. That is one of things I love about model building. Russ src 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurkSailor Posted June 5, 2014 Share #431 Posted June 5, 2014 Russ, This is absolutely stunning work. Excited to see the final product! Absolutely gorgeous. Cheers, Eyup Quote Eyüp Current: Fifie - Amati Coca - Amati Completed: Felucca 1887 - Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #432 Posted June 5, 2014 Eyup: Thanks for the kind words. It is always appreciated. I hope I can live up to the expectations. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share #433 Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) The main deadeyes and chainplates have been fabricated. I still need to make the cap over the edge of the railing. I am not sure if I will stick with these assemblies or give it another try. I am concerned about the inconsistent height of the deadeyes. Once the assemblies are painted, they will look okay, but.... Late tonight I decided to make a few more deadeyes and broke two consecutive pieces while making them. That told me to walk away and try again tomorrow. Russ Edited June 8, 2014 by russ popeye the sailor, Perls, pete48 and 12 others 15 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share #434 Posted June 8, 2014 Having looked at the photograph and thought about it a bit, I have decided to do some experimenting to try and improve my technique for these deadeye and chainplate assemblies. They just do not look very good. I will let you all know how it goes. Russ Martin W and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 9, 2014 Share #435 Posted June 9, 2014 Russ, She does look good, beter even. Your remark about the deadeyes and chainplates made me ponder on it too. The deadeyes do look a bit small compared to the chainplates ... If you made the chainplates of soldered wire, would that not be more in ratio? Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share #436 Posted June 9, 2014 Carl: Thanks for looking in and your kind words. I have been remaking the chainplates this afternoon and I will post photos of them later. I think narrower chainplates are what was needed. The wider chainplates made the assemblies look rather bulky. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 9, 2014 Share #437 Posted June 9, 2014 That's exactly what I meant. I'm looking forward to see your solution! Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share #438 Posted June 9, 2014 Here is a second pass at the main deadeyes and chainplates. The chainplates are much better in that they are nearly right on the design width, about 3/64". The height of the deadeyes above the rail is good and they are just about equal in height. I think once the cap is in place and everything is painted, this approach will work. The key for me is to keep the chainplate width as close as possible to 3/64". Russ captainbob, dgbot, riverboat and 15 others 18 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted June 9, 2014 Share #439 Posted June 9, 2014 Russ, one of the ways I have used for making brass stripping is to cement the sheet between two pieces of wood with contact cement. Then I would cut to width on my Preac. I have gotten down to 1/32 many times David B Martin W 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted June 9, 2014 Share #440 Posted June 9, 2014 Russ, Those new chainplates do have better proportions and look 'right'. Very nicely done. Those are very delicate little details! Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share #441 Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) David: Thanks for the suggestion. I have no problem cutting the brass strips. I have a handy pair of scissors that can cut just about anything and they do so without rough edges or distortion. I just need to pay more attention to what I am doing. I designed them at 3/64" wide and I lost track of that number as I was having too much fun drilling holes in the chainplates and soldering pins in them. Elia: Thanks. I am much happier with these. Thanks for the all the likes as well. I apologize for this bit of tedium. Russ Edited June 9, 2014 by russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted June 10, 2014 Share #442 Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Russ, I dont know about anybody else but the "tedium" doesnt bother me at all. I enjoy watching the process, it helps me learn. and they look pretty darn good to me, even better when I think about how small they are. Sam Edited June 10, 2014 by src Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 10, 2014 Share #443 Posted June 10, 2014 you have to experiment with it............some ideas take more than others your second attempt looks very good. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share #444 Posted June 10, 2014 Sam: Thanks for the kind words. I do not want to bore anyone with my reports. I am glad if something I offer helps. I am always learning from others work here on MSW as well. Popeye: Thanks for the kind words. Thanks everyone for the likes. I appreciate it. Russ src 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted June 10, 2014 Share #445 Posted June 10, 2014 Hi Russ , do you have any contact with a jeweler? They have a roll mill. Some time ago I was at My jeweler friends place and ran a bunch of different copper wires through her roll mill and wound up with quite a few different coils of copper strips from the different wires enough in fact for a lifetime. Michael Elmer Cornish and captainbob 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share #446 Posted June 10, 2014 Michael: Thanks for the idea. I have plenty of brass sheet from which I can cut strips of any width I need. It is a simple matter of me paying more attention to what I am doing and, you know, maybe checking my own plans every now and again. Russ riverboat 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted June 20, 2014 Share #447 Posted June 20, 2014 I enjoy watching your build. And I was wondering - When is the boat show? I still want to see photos of the real boats (or replicas). Cheers. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Pilot Boat Mary of Norfolk Completed Builds: Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #448 Posted June 20, 2014 Ken: Thanks for dropping by. The boat show was back in May. If you look in the Model Ship Clubs and Exhibitions and Events forum there is a thread where I posted photos of the Billy Creel Memorial Wooden Boat Show. Russ pete48 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted June 20, 2014 Share #449 Posted June 20, 2014 Nice job on the redo of the chain plates...... really look good! Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #450 Posted June 20, 2014 Frank: Thanks. I am much happier with these chainplates. I need to find some time to work on the port side chainplates now. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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