Justin P. Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share #91 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 1:56 PM, mtaylor said: I have no doubts about your being able to build a display case 1 hour ago, ChadB said: There's no reason you won't be able to make the display case also. You both are kind. Building something when you have plans is fairly straight forward I guess. Building something - like a case - simple a structure as it may be, is still a mystery with no plans to go by! The glass, determining how to set and mount the glass, etc. Im not saying that I cant/wont try - but I am saying that I have no idea where to start. Edwardkenway, BobG, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted November 8, 2021 Share #92 Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Justin P. said: Im not saying that I cant/wont try - but I am saying that I have no idea where to start. I took a look at that display case due to this thread and its beautiful. I feel similar to you so please if you do try please detail the process if you can (I'd love to do something similar when I finish my cross section). Edwardkenway, mtaylor and Justin P. 3 Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share #93 Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Almost 3 full months since my last update! Oh man... this "return to normal" stuff has really caught up with me. With the holidays, the new year, and a bunch of hiring, chess tournaments and the start of the basketball season (I am my daughters BBall coach) Ive had so little time to update. I have, however, continued to steadily work on my Triton. I think I'm starting to see the end game a little clearer and am starting to think about the case a little more earnestly, thanks to the encouragement in the above comments. Since my last update much of the detail work has started. After planking the exterior and interior of the hull, along with the gun deck I chose to carry on with hull details. I chose walnut as a contrasting material and haven't found the grain too distracting. As Ive said prior, I take it as a point of pride to make something beautiful from relatively sustainable materials and have resisted a desire to use the more exotic (and likely more beautiful) hardwoods. This being a first full scratch project for me, I also wanted to limit the damage to the pocketbook, knowing full well I was likely to burn through a lot of material on screw-ups! After wrapping-up the cannon carraiges: The rail cap, fenders and trim were all made from this walnut, which was the same as used in the wales. In the first photo you can see my paper mock-up used to template the fender shape. A sharp eye might also note that I screwed-up in sequence and neglected to include the outboard trim as I was planking the exterior. Thus I had to mount the trim over the planking. A small error that I intend to make sure not to lose track of in future builds. You'll also notice some weird sequencing as I decided to do one side in a slightly different order (caulking, details, etc). One thing I learned again, having learned it earlier and then entirely forgotten, is that you must seal the wood prior to the caulking step otherwise the excess will not wipe away as cleanly. I then began work on caulking the gun deck planking, and started assembling the gun tackle per the plans. Ive always enjoyed the process of preparing block and rigging so took some enjoyment in this step. I decided it better to do only some of the gun prep and not mount them as it seemed much easier to complete the rest of details (gangways, ladders) prior to mounting and setting the guns and tackle. I also opted to not treenail the interior gunwales despite having done so with lower decks as there is a concentration of detail in this area and I was worried it would end-up creating a cluttered look. I'm still confident in this decision. I also made a few ladders before settling on the below iteration. I now know much more about this process and hopefully will have better luck with the gangway ladder later. The last few weeks Ive been struggling through the brass work for the gangway supports. I first made a set using the entirely wrong brass material and stumbled my way through an appropriate soldering technique. My first attempts are in the first picture where it can be clearly seen that too much solder is being used, too much heat and just a generally poor construction method. I then switched to strips I had to cut myself (as opposed to pre-milled brass stock) and dialed in my soldering until I got consistent and clean results. The gangway supports in place, I just cut and temporary set the skid-beams. I'm starting to work on assembling the gun-tackle components now in preparation of final fitting. Now that things in my life have settled a bit I'm hoping to be posting a bit more regularly and look forward to catching up on all the great builds Ive been missing! Edited March 4, 2022 by Justin P. shipcarpenter, harvey1847, VTHokiEE and 7 others 8 2 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted March 3, 2022 Share #94 Posted March 3, 2022 It was well worth the wait! Excellent work, all the planking looks superb, even more so after the caulking and treenailing. Looking forward to more updates as time allows. Justin P., bruce d, WalrusGuy and 1 other 4 Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted March 3, 2022 Share #95 Posted March 3, 2022 Meticulously beautiful work as always, Justin! WalrusGuy, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 4 1 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 3, 2022 Share #96 Posted March 3, 2022 Excellent work. As a learning project, you seem to be doing that very well. Lots to be learned and also discovered in this project. Edwardkenway, BobG and Justin P. 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share #97 Posted March 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, mtaylor said: Lots to be learned and also discovered in this project. Indeed Mark. Going forward, I think Triton might be the project I would suggest to anyone starting out in scratch work. Much of it is "just right" as an introduction to many different aspects. mtaylor, Edwardkenway, bruce d and 1 other 4 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted March 3, 2022 Share #98 Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Justin P. said: Going forward, I think Triton might be the project I would suggest to anyone starting out in scratch work. Much of it is "just right" as an introduction to many different aspects. Good to know. My wife got me the Byrnes sander for Christmas and I recently bit the bullet and bought the table saw and the thickness sander as well so I'm really interested in an "easier" scratch build. It's a bit intimidating to me since I've only completed a couple of kit models and I am working on a two others currently. Knowing me though, I'll probably jump in with two feet before I'm ready... Edited March 3, 2022 by BobG Justin P., VTHokiEE and Edwardkenway 3 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted March 4, 2022 Share #99 Posted March 4, 2022 Looking really nice! I’m really enjoying your build. 1 hour ago, BobG said: I'll probably jump in with two feet before I'm ready... Come on in the water’s warm. Justin P., BobG and Edwardkenway 1 2 Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 4, 2022 Share #100 Posted March 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Justin P. said: Indeed Mark. Going forward, I think Triton might be the project I would suggest to anyone starting out in scratch work. Much of it is "just right" as an introduction to many different aspects. 1 hour ago, BobG said: Good to know. My wife got me the Byrnes sander for Christmas and I recently bit the bullet and bought the table saw and the thickness sander as well so I'm really interested in an "easier" scratch build. It's a bit intimidating to me since I've only completed a couple of kit models and I am working on a two others currently. Knowing me though, I'll probably jump in with two feet before I'm ready... This is exactly what the Triton build was designed for... a learning experience for scratch building fully framed models. Just remember though, that the cross-section model and the full hull version do have differences so don't mix the plans up. BobG, Edwardkenway, Justin P. and 1 other 4 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share #101 Posted March 4, 2022 15 hours ago, BobG said: I'm really interested in an "easier" scratch build Ha... Im not sure how I would describe it. I would say there are certainly a lot of aspects that are "easy." But also quite a few that were at least confounding to me. I would say the biggest single difference is the lack of traditional instructions. I did a lot of things out in a sequence that I would not do again precisely because I wasnt thinking the steps all the way through, and had no real manual to follow. Now that Im this far along Ive gotten better, but do still think I could do things differently. Having all the build logs for the Triton on MSW definitely eases the transition from having instructions as those builds provide plenty of reference when you get stuck somewhere. Im a little worried about this for the next build to be honest. Gabek, mtaylor, BobG and 1 other 4 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted March 4, 2022 Share #102 Posted March 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Justin P. said: Im a little worried about this for the next build to be honest. What have you got in mind, Justin? Justin P. and mtaylor 2 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share #103 Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BobG said: What have you got in mind, Justin? Geez, I dont know if I'm ready to commit myself out loud yet, ha! Ive been looking at a few, ranging from subjects like the Echo cross-section, Hayling Hoy, Euryalus, NRG Galley Washington to a few smaller boat projects that have grabbed my attention here and there. NG Herreshoff's personal day sailor Coquina is an open boat that Ive always loved and think would make a splendid model, as well as Ronald Young's Poulsbo Boat. Either of these might make a nice contribution to the NRG Journal - something Ive wanted to try as well. Ive read virtually all the books, practicums and have been collecting/studying plans for all of these options. For me its really about getting a sense for where I am, how complicated the project is and what is likely to hold my interest. I intend to build the NRG Capstan project almost immediately after this as something fun and different to do while I gather materials and get ready for another months/years long project. I think the Capstan project will be the first I try to do using the more exotic woods. I dont have a lot of experience with Pear or Boxwood and am interested in doing something manageable to get a feel for the material before investing in q larger quantity. If I dont like it, then I will know better what I want to commit to with the next longer build. Im probably over thinking all these things, but that's only because I'm so obsessed with the hobby all I really do is think about it - ha! Of course, I also have to try and build a case for Triton! One thing at a time I guess. Edited March 4, 2022 by Justin P. Edwardkenway, KentM, BobG and 2 others 5 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 4, 2022 Share #104 Posted March 4, 2022 Bob, If you will, go to the bottom of page 3 (https://modelshipworld.com/forum/89-cross-section-build-logs-for-hms-triton/page/3/) and you'll see two topics that have "repost by moderator) on time. Both are excellent for guidance on this project. Footnote, the original tutorial for this was long ago lost during the "Great Crash" many years ago, but those two logs are a pretty good guide. Justin, Sounds like a good plan. You have the skills as shown here by your build. BobG and Justin P. 1 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #105 Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) This past weekend I got the guns assembled and set in place. It was a fiddly job, but I'm happy with the result. In the first photo you can sort of see my process. I used a couple of nails placed exactly the distance apart that the hooks would hang on the model and then set all that with a tiny bit of glue. This way the lines don't fight themselves and will hold on the right distance. Then I coiled the extra upside-down onto some blue tape and used some tiny bits of glue to hold the coil. After flipping back over the whole thing was set. Then everything was attached. Edited March 7, 2022 by Justin P. JpR62, egkb, mtaylor and 9 others 10 2 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainars Apalais Posted March 9, 2022 Share #106 Posted March 9, 2022 Looks amazing!!! Justin P. and mtaylor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share #107 Posted May 8, 2022 Completed. Sadly, all of the photos I took of the last stages of this build were lost. Im still not sure how this happened, but as went to update this build log I noticed they are all gone. Im supremely disappointed but happy to report that Ive completed my Triton. What a project. Im excited to have completed it, and looking forward to moving forward with a new project. Thanks to everyone for your kind words, support and assistance through this project. A relative has kindly volunteered to make a case for it, a challenge I think they welcome and are looking forward to, so I won't be taking that piece on. I did however make a temporary mount seen in the below photo and accompanying gallery. GALLERY Onward! egkb, Ryland Craze, VTHokiEE and 9 others 8 4 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 8, 2022 Share #108 Posted May 8, 2022 Sweet !!!! The cross-section looks great. Edwardkenway and Justin P. 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted May 8, 2022 Share #109 Posted May 8, 2022 I just looked at your model in the Gallery. It's fantastic, Justin! mtaylor and Edwardkenway 2 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted May 8, 2022 Share #110 Posted May 8, 2022 Congrats on a beautiful build. Museum quality!! 🙂 Edwardkenway, BobG, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted May 9, 2022 Share #111 Posted May 9, 2022 Gorgeous build! Edwardkenway and Justin P. 2 Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabek Posted May 16, 2022 Share #112 Posted May 16, 2022 Bravo, Justin! Great model - a masterpiece! Such a shame that the photos of your final stretch vapourized on you, but the end result is stunning nonetheless. What do you have planned next? Clear skies! - Gabe Justin P., Edwardkenway and mtaylor 3 Current builds: Harvey, Baltimore Clipper - Artesania Latina HMS Triton Cross Section, 18th Century Frigate - online scratch build HMCS Agassiz, WW2 Flower-Class Corvette - HMV - card model Completed: Swift, Pilot Schooner - Artesania Latina --- Build log --- Gallery Skeeter, Ship-in-Bottle - Ships a Sailin' kit --- Build log Santa Maria, Caravel - Artesania Latina --- Build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadB Posted November 4, 2022 Share #113 Posted November 4, 2022 Only half a year late to the party, but the finished product looks amazing, Justin! Bravo! mtaylor 1 Completed Models: Triton Cross Section In Progress: Brig Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted December 29, 2023 Share #114 Posted December 29, 2023 Congrats Justin! Amazing Job! In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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