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I live on Discovery Passage named by Capt George Vancouver after his ship in 1792. I was thinking of building the Leopard but the local history of the Discovery made it more interesting. (plus I wouldn't have to make 50 guns). I've done a dozen or so POB so I thought I'd do a scratch POF to really challenge myself. I'm 73 and have shaky hands. That's one challenge. I also have very minimal plans so far. I'm waiting for the Vancouver Maritime Museum to get back to me about John McKay's drawings Vancouver Maritime Museum : Ship plan : H.M. Sloop of war <i>Discovery</i> [2007.5000.0164] (vmmcollections.com) I have 4 drawings from here(way down the page)  Category:Ship plans of the Royal Museums Greenwich - Wikimedia Commons.  That's the second challenge.  I started a preliminary build while I'm waiting for the museum. Their archivist left and the new one is starting in a week or so. If the preliminary build turns out to be close enough I will use it but I'm expecting to scrap it once I get some better info. The pre build is teaching me a lot. I thought I would start a build log so my questions wouldn't be shot gunned all over the site. Don't know if that's a good idea or not. Depends how entertaining I can be, I guess😃. Right now I'm mocking up cant frames. I'm using old wall panelling. I'm just in the process of tack gluing all this together so I call turn it over and see the outside. I can't tell if it's at all fair from this point of view.

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Hazel so far. I have quite a bit of it from when I was making bows (archery). It seems to work well. It does get dirty though, I'll have to figure out something there. I have Maple, Crabapple, Dogwood, Saskatoon(Serviceberry) left over from bowmaking. It's all probably good for boats. I have Yew also but it's a little soft. The panelling is left over from when we moved into the house before I was finished it. That was 45 years ago. Still isn't completely finished. I have 3 4x8 sheets of it left so I can waste all I want.

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I've noticed that Kevin Kenny and Dan Vadas use a mixture of scarf and chock joints on their frames. Their Swan class ships are about 10 years earlier than mine. My copy of Steel is 1812, about 20 years later. He calls for scarfed or "framed" joints. I'm wondering what "framed' means? Was there a change of methods in this 30 year span?

 

I've also seen frames constructed using overlapping layers of half thickness parts. These seem stronger but less realistic. Probably easier to build but I would have to mill a bunch of 1/8" thick wood. 

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  • ccoyle changed the title to HMS Discovery 1789 by Don Case - 1:48
1 hour ago, LyleK1 said:

Hi Don,

I will be watching your log closely.

I am very interested in the Discovery too. I live in the Puget Sound area, so I suspect we have the same interests.

Good luck!

If you come across anything interesting please post it here. There is not much to go on. I'm hoping for a few gems from the book. I don't know if you're old enough but I was a big Capt Puget fan when I was a boy, 60 years ago.

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1 hour ago, Don Case said:

If you come across anything interesting please post it here. There is not much to go on. I'm hoping for a few gems from the book. I don't know if you're old enough but I was a big Capt Puget fan when I was a boy, 60 years ago.

I'll keep an eye out...

I am aware of Captain Puget but slightly before my time! I do remember Don McCune on "Exploration NW" though!

Whereabouts do you live on Vancouver Island? We boat up in that area every year... when there isn't a pandemic!

Look forward to watching you log.

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I've spent the last few days building this jig and setting in a few frames. As it turns out the room and space is very close to the station spacing so at least midship I can just copy the station shape. I started at station 0. The first two stations on the body plan are 0 and (D). Three frames fit in between them. I made a 0 and (D) according to the body plan and made three more 0's. Clamped them together and roughly faired them. The first 5 frames fit nicely. Then I moved to station D with the idea of just repeating what I did on the first five. Station(frame) D wouldn't fit. It's 3/16" to narrow. The jig is the 5th waterline which I lofted using the original body plan. I've measured and re-measured and double checked my lofting. All I can figure it that all the minor errors are adding up rather than averaging out but 3/16" is a lot. The only other thing I can think of is that on the body plan the upper part of the midship stations all come together in a big blurry line. Maybe that massed me up but if I lofted the waterline from the body plan and my dividers went back in the same holes every time this should work. A plank seems to lay nicely on the frames but it's a big jump (about 2" or 4 frames) between station (D) and D and that could be fooling me. Anyway it's fun although this stumbling block is getting a little tiresome. I can either modify the frame or the jig but I think they're both right. Dunno. Maybe spend another day trying to sort it out.

 

Edit- I've decided it's the jig. I'll fix it with a bit of 1/32" plywood.

 

 

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I'm just about done the forward cant frames. I'm just roughing them in, nothing is glued. I'm a little concerned with slimming down and fairing the inside of the frames until I've gotten the outside looking good. I'll get there. A question. As the cant frames get closer to the bow it seems to me that they should get closer to the shape of the stem. Is that so? I finely heard from the museum so maybe I can get my hands on some drawings😃

 

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