James H Posted March 16, 2021 Share #1 Posted March 16, 2021 Well, my bench has been idle for long enough... HMS Sphinx is the next major release from Vanguard Models, and as per the previous 4 main kit releases and the 8 ship's boats, I'll be building up the production prototype and creating the instruction manual. Just a little 'ye potted historie' of Sphinx: She was a 20-gun sixth rate launched in 1775. Captured by the French in September 1779, she was recaptured by HMS Prosperpine on 29 November 1779. Sphinx was finally broken up in 1811. Onwards... One thing you'll note if you buy the completed kit is that there's quite a weight. Chris shipped me two complete sets of wooden parts (and some fittings), and that pack, minus any plans, heavy manual or the numerous sets of photo-etch, came in at a whopping 7kg. Factor in around half that weight, plus those missing items, and you'll see it's a bumper pack. There are over thirty sheets of laser cut material, also incorporating the three ship's boats (a good number of different thicknesses). Apart from the MDF sheets which comprise the Sphinx's skeleton, a ply sheet with the lower deck etc, laser-engraved maple decks, the rest of the material is pearwood. Two bundles of strip wood are included; the obligatory lime for first planking, and some 0.8mm thick pear for second planking. The colour is this really is very nice. There are numerous changes between the first test hull Chris built and featured on MSW, and this version, with deleted parts, new parts, and things which have been improved further to make building even more enjoyable. I now have a few days of acquainting myself with the original reference build pics before I can start this, probably this coming weekend. Cannon are in black resin and nigh on ready to use. They look really nice, and the cannon balls are in black plastic, so no painting. Boat beam brackets are in very strong resin, and there is a sheet of laser-cut acetate for the stern/quarter windows. The stern fascia is cast in resin and also looks seriously nice. The figurehead is beautifully detailed and 3D printed. Stern lanterns will be from PE and resin. The colours on this will be very similar to the Duchess of Kingston, but with red inner bulwarks. Whilst my build will be strictly 'out of box', the scope for extra detailing the cabin at the stern, will be more than a temptation for some, with that engraved, chequered floor and engraved doors to the quarter galleries. As there will undoubtedly be questions I can't answer, feel free to use this log to also ask Chris questions that are specific to this release. I'm sure he'll chime in with any extra contents details I missed here. Wish me luck ☘️ Baker, Morgan, KentM and 47 others 50 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted March 16, 2021 Share #2 Posted March 16, 2021 oh yeah James H, Edwardkenway, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oboship Posted March 16, 2021 Share #3 Posted March 16, 2021 I'm very curious... Good luck! Uwe Edwardkenway, James H, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted March 16, 2021 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2021 Great to see you have started on this build, it is going to be once of my next projects after the DOK mtaylor, Edwardkenway and Rustyj 3 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyuti Posted March 16, 2021 Share #5 Posted March 16, 2021 oh boy !! Another kit to have to buy from Vanguard, if it is anything like the other 5 I recently bought it will be brilliantly packaged, with everything you might need to make a stunning model. So looking forward to it Chris, congrats on the next kit for your company. Edwardkenway, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 16, 2021 Share #6 Posted March 16, 2021 That looks like an amazing kit! I’m excited to follow your build, James. Edwardkenway, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 17, 2021 Share #7 Posted March 17, 2021 Well, I will be following with interest, too. I wish James would have posted a picture of the finished model or some depiction of the vessel, in his introduction. Yves mtaylor, Edwardkenway and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted March 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, yvesvidal said: Well, I will be following with interest, too. I wish James would have posted a picture of the finished model or some depiction of the vessel, in his introduction. Yves I suppose the only problem is that there isn't a finished model to post pics of. Chris has test images in his Vanguard Models traders topic that have been there for a while. That kit also has numerous changes which will be seen in this topic. Of course, this one will also be masted and rigged, unlike the test hull Chris made. There is a profile to be seen on the National Maritime Museum page: Canute, Glenn-UK, oneslim and 21 others 24 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 17, 2021 Share #9 Posted March 17, 2021 Thank you James. This is indeed a very nice vessel!! Yves Canute, Kevin and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted March 17, 2021 Share #10 Posted March 17, 2021 This is gonna be interesting! From your build record this is probably going to be a two month build maybe less 😂 Oboship, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted March 18, 2021 Share #11 Posted March 18, 2021 Hi James, very nice model! I will follow this build with interest. If I see right you have used my planking sheme for main wales and decks... Regards Alex chris watton, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: HMS Sphynx, 20 gun ship launched in 1775 at Portsmouth, Hampshire. On the drawing board: HMS Anson, 64 gun third rate ship of the line, launched in 1781 at Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted March 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, Alex M said: If I see right you have used my planking sheme for main wales and decks... Hi Alex, The model you see is the design prototype from Chris, so I had nothing to do with that one. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted March 19, 2021 Work officially starts on this tomorrow, but I thought I'd do a quick test fit of the bulkheads, and the lower deck and orlop deck section. The fit is absolutely perfect and everything nice and square. This will give a rough idea of the genesis of this build before I crack on with the instructions images tomorrow. Fernando E, ccoyle, Gus M and 29 others 32 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCN-Modeller Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 20, 2021 Waiting to see how this new kit builiding would progress because the prototype pictures looks really very nice. Another awesome product from VanguardModels. Hooping the kit build will not be so difficult for non so experienced modellers because would be a good adition for my ToDo list. Trying to learn from James building as much as possible. Best regards from Barcelona, Pascual. Canute, James H, chris watton and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted March 20, 2021 6 hours ago, BCN-Modeller said: Waiting to see how this new kit builiding would progress because the prototype pictures looks really very nice. Another awesome product from VanguardModels. Hooping the kit build will not be so difficult for non so experienced modellers because would be a good adition for my ToDo list. Trying to learn from James building as much as possible. Best regards from Barcelona, Pascual. You'll be surprised just how this build could be built by someone only just intermediate. Chris has created a kit that is designed to be as foolproof as possible and it's my task to create a manual which takes the sequence and makes it simple and clear to the average modeller. I hope I can do that. I love Barcelona. Visiting again by ship next summer (2022), but only for the day. chris watton, JeffT, Rik Thistle and 9 others 12 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share #16 Posted March 22, 2021 Been a busy weekend at chez-Hatch. I wanted to het the hull skeleton as far as I could so I can fit the laser deck and red bulwarks/spirketting this week. Work starts on the first and last bulkheads which are fitted with their bow and stern patterns respectively. The first bulkhead is dry fitted to the false keel so the two adjacent patterns sit snug to the keel. A clamp was deployed until fully set, then the assembly was removed from the keel and a sanding block/Dremel used to shape. I really do recommend a rotary tool for shaping the stern. It will be make things much, much simpler. Before shaping the stern, the assembly was slipped back onto the keel and glued to the bulkhead which sits adjacent to it. Shaping was done after removal. The tape on the stern assembly issued to protect the filler panel from breaking away. With so many bulkheads and interlocking slots, I always like to dry-fit all parts where possible, and then paint wood glue into the joints afterwards. This method works perfectly well, and you can dilute your glue too if you wish. Modern wood glues seem to set too quickly that I see this as a way of making sure everything seats before the glue turns. With the bulkheads slotted into position (minus the bow and stern assemblies I just made), the small orlop deck section is slotted into place, followed by the laser engraved ply lower deck. Care needs to be taken not to damage the bulkhead ears. If you look closer, you'll see the bulkheads have safely gates on the outside, protecting the ears somewhat. These are removed later, before fairing the hull. The model is now turned upside down and supported while I paint wood glue into the various joints between the MDF and ply parts. The bow and stern sections are now finally slotted into place and glued. It's important that the bulkhead ears are protected from quite early on in the build, so I changed the sequence so that the longitudinal gun port strips are now glued into place. These are labelled 'TOP' and 'BOTTOM' to remove any confusion. The blanking/strengthening section on the rear bulkhead can now be carefully twisted away as the bulkhead ears are now protected. We also need to later fit the stern gallery timbers which will run through this area. The first pear wood is now used with the grate coamings. These are assembled and the outer edges have their char removed. I also remove star from the two open sections that won't have grates fitted. Now, the deck beams can be glued into position. Clamps ensure they are aligned and vertical. With these in position, the coamings and gratings are glued into place. Four longitudinal deck support strips are now fitted, with one pair being 'OUTER' and the other 'INNER'. Finally, for this update, the ply deck is fitted. These sections clip into the bulkhead ears so they are self firmly at that point. All you need to do is to pin them down in the middle. I also chose to paint glue into the joints after fitting the deck parts. More as soon as I have something to show you. 😃 Jonny 007, WalrusGuy, BenD and 40 others 42 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted March 22, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) A great weekend of work, very impressive looking even at this very early stage. What is the sanding tool you are using? Edited March 22, 2021 by glennard2523 mtaylor, Canute, James H and 1 other 4 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted March 22, 2021 Share #18 Posted March 22, 2021 Looks nice!! mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share #19 Posted March 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, glennard2523 said: What is the sanding tool you are using? That's the Amati sanding block. I quite like that as locks the paper in place and has one curved end. KentM, BobG, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted March 22, 2021 Share #20 Posted March 22, 2021 looks amazing, congrats and many thanks for sharing James H, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 22, 2021 Share #21 Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 1:00 PM, Alex M said: Hi James, very nice model! I will follow this build with interest. If I see right you have used my planking sheme for main wales and decks... Regards Alex Hi Alex, Your model is certainly inspirational. However, the vast majority of detail that isn't shown on the original Admiralty plans for Sphinx Class was gleaned from the AOTS Pandora, as this seems to be the closest match for the slightly smaller Sphinx. Canute, mtaylor, Mr Whippy and 7 others 10 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted March 22, 2021 Share #22 Posted March 22, 2021 one question, which I haven't seen.... when will this model be available? I plan to purchase a Vanguard model in the future and this could be a great option. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 22, 2021 Share #23 Posted March 22, 2021 lovely update Canute, Old Collingwood and mtaylor 3 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodosius Posted March 22, 2021 Share #24 Posted March 22, 2021 Very promising! And just phantastic to see this project from the start onto the build of a master shipwright! 🙂 mtaylor, Old Collingwood and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted March 22, 2021 Share #25 Posted March 22, 2021 So you’ll be done by next Monday 😁 As always I’ll enjoy watching your build of one of Chris’s well researched designs. mugje, Canute, Old Collingwood and 4 others 5 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: HMS Winchelsea Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 23, 2021 Share #26 Posted March 23, 2021 Just had the test sheets arrive for the five sheets of photo etched brass for Sphinx, which I shall get shipped to Jim. these are quite big... p.hoek, Matt D, Mr Whippy and 33 others 34 2 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 23, 2021 Share #27 Posted March 23, 2021 It is interesting to see all these would-have-been-wood parts turn into metal ! At 1/64th scale, there is very little alternative ..... Yves Canute, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 23, 2021 Share #28 Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, yvesvidal said: It is interesting to see all these would-have-been-wood parts turn into metal ! At 1/64th scale, there is very little alternative ..... Yves Always a compromise. I could do most in wood, but to keep to scale, they would be way too fragile. The alternative would be to increase widths/thicknesses, and end up with those way out of scale chubby parts like ships wheels. Took a while to decide about the topmast cross trees, as I would have liked them in wood. However, again, the scale widths were too small, and many would have had problems. Nothing worse than having such a part snap/break when you've already started the rigging process, and they were always painted anyway... Edited March 23, 2021 by chris watton AJohnson, KentM, Gus M and 9 others 11 1 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted March 23, 2021 Share #29 Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, chris watton said: Nothing worse than having such a part snap/break when you're started the rigging process, Gee, I wouldn't know ANYTHING about that. yvesvidal, Clark, chris watton and 3 others 6 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Posted March 24, 2021 Share #30 Posted March 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Chuck Seiler said: Gee, I wouldn't know ANYTHING about that. Happened to me even when I was younger and fingers more flexible. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Chuck Seiler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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