Jack H Posted March 25, 2021 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2021 Hi, This is a validation model for kit development, and the work of hull part will begin soon. About 70% of the design has been completed. My partners will make 1:36, 1:48 and bow section respectively. All the photos from their buildlog are authorized for me to release in MSW. This project started from NMM's original draught, True Image Model, a ship model studio from UK, which obtained a commercial kit license from NMM. Now there are three modelers involved in the model validation. We will complete the bow section kit first, because it is relatively simple. The wood used in kit is boxwood / pear wood. Welcome to pay attention to our follow-up progress. Jack JpR62, scrubbyj427, Beef Wellington and 32 others 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted March 25, 2021 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2021 That looks great Jack.....wonderful work on the figureheads. mtaylor and Jack H 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted March 25, 2021 Share #3 Posted March 25, 2021 Whoa! What’s the ETA on this Jack? Looks to be a very fun project! JJ Jack H and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted March 25, 2021 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Hi hjx, You chose a very nice model and you are able to render a very realistic figure head. You have an excellent project going on. Edited March 25, 2021 by Gaetan Bordeleau mtaylor and Jack H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Gaetan Bordeleau said: Hi hjx, You chose a very nice model and you are able to render a very realistic figure head. You have an excellent project going on. Thank you. Yes, maybe I will continue L'Artesien in the future, when my wife doesn't stop me any more... My friend is continuing to make that project. I promise to help him carve all carvings. I always encourage him to release his buildlog. He always says to wait,wait ... mtaylor and Jorge Diaz O 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said: Whoa! What’s the ETA on this Jack? Looks to be a very fun project! JJ As for the development cycle, I will finish the project all the time. In order to speed up the development progress, I invited two ModelBuilders to verify the model, and I only focused on the processing of components. Secondly, the UK partner also agreed to develop the bow section first, and I expect that the work of the bow section may be completed in the second half of the year. One idea is to release the bow section first, then stern section and midsection, so that the folks won't wait too long. Then, all these section kits can become independent models or assemble four sections into a complete hull. However, if you want to make a traditional and complete POF model, you should follow the traditional Chapters method. Once it can be sold, 'True Image' will provide a sponsor link in MSW immediately. All sales outside China will be handled by 'True Image', and I will provide after-sales service. Jack Edited March 26, 2021 by hjx Captain Poison, pjofc4, JeffT and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted March 26, 2021 Share #7 Posted March 26, 2021 Very excited to see this release! mtaylor and Jack H 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted March 26, 2021 Share #8 Posted March 26, 2021 A 1:36 scale ship. Gonna be big. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 1:07 AM, Sailor1234567890 said: A 1:36 scale ship. Gonna be big. Thank you Sailor1234567890,It's true that the 1:36 model has a huge hull. Here's an approximate outline comparison. Now there are two modelers working on 1:36 and 1:48 models, and maybe more people will be involved.I will also do some verification work myself, and my UK partner will write instructions in English. He said he would make this model, too. The blue part will be the bow section kit. Maybe it will be longer. We will accept customers' requests for customization. Jack PeteB, Archi, bruce d and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) By the way, we will provide high quality boxwood, jujube and pear wood, as well as fine machined parts. We can provide parts all made by boxwood- Yes, all parts are processed by high quality boxwood. Figurehead made by boxwood, Asian boxwood has a good appearance, very delicate, moderate hardness, density and fineness are more than pear wood, thick wood is very rare. High quality jujube wood, which surpasses the density and hardness of boxwood, is similar to the fineness and color of boxwood. Entry level products will use pear wood. Jack Edited March 28, 2021 by hjx Siggi52, archnav, bruce d and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archnav Posted March 28, 2021 Share #11 Posted March 28, 2021 Such a phantastic figurehead Jack....unbelievable. You know I love your art work 😎 Jack H and mtaylor 2 Quote All the best, Tom (sapere aude) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted March 28, 2021 Share #12 Posted March 28, 2021 That’s a lot of lumber there Jack, this looks like a serious project now. If you need another verification builder you can sign me up! JJ mtaylor, Jack H and Matt D 3 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Thank you Thomas,😃 Thank you JJ! I'll let you know as soon as I finish some more parts and preparations. Many thanks to MSW and Chuck. In fact, Cumberland used to be the background map of MSW's website. This project was proposed by me and was supported by Chuck immediately. I followed his suggestion. This project will cooperate with MSW for promotion, so more information will be released--when we(True Image model) finish the negotiation with MSW on some details.I need to follow MSW's rules about business content. Jack Edited March 29, 2021 by hjx Jorge Diaz O, Haliburton, scrubbyj427 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted March 29, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, hjx said: Thank you Thomas,😃 Thank you JJ! I'll let you know as soon as I finish some more parts and preparations. Many thanks to MSW and Chuck. In fact, Cumberland used to be the background map of MSW's website. This project was proposed by me and was supported by Chuck immediately. I followed his suggestion. This project will cooperate with MSW for promotion, so more information will be released--when we(True Image model) finish the negotiation with MSW on some details.I need to follow MSW's rules about business content. Jack Jack: This is good news about the HMS Cumberland. Please keep us posted on any developments and any pictures you have to share. While we are on teh subject of new kits, I remember you were talking about a new kit of the HMS Bellona. Any updates on that? Mike Draper mtaylor 1 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted March 29, 2021 Thank you Mike,I'm sorry, I don't have any plans for Hms Bellona. CAF is developing that project. I mentioned HMS Victory 1765 and HMS Princess Royal 1773. If I can get their licenses from NMM, I will continue those projects. I did OEM a (another) 5th rate project carvings (except Winchelsea),as long as any project is legally licensed. Jack mtaylor and scrubbyj427 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted March 29, 2021 Share #16 Posted March 29, 2021 15 hours ago, hjx said: Thank you Mike,I'm sorry, I don't have any plans for Hms Bellona. CAF is developing that project. I mentioned HMS Victory 1765 and HMS Princess Royal 1773. If I can get their licenses from NMM, I will continue those projects. I did OEM a (another) 5th rate project carvings (except Winchelsea),as long as any project is legally licensed. Jack Jack: My mistake. Thanks for clarifying that point for me. You are correct that CAF is developing that project. You will certainly will have your hands full with the Cumberland, the HMS Victory 1765 and the HMS Princess Royal 1773. Its good to hear that you are making sure all your projects are legally licensed. Do keep us posted on all of your efforts. Mike Draper PeteB, Jack H, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted March 30, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 30, 2021 No hint of a 1:64 kit is there? I'd love a 1:64 scale kit. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann Posted March 30, 2021 Share #18 Posted March 30, 2021 Hi Jack, great to see this on the way!! Matthias Jack H and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share #19 Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sailor1234567890 said: No hint of a 1:64 kit is there? I'd love a 1:64 scale kit. Thank you Sailor1234567890, the batch products should be 1:64 and 1:48. By the way,say something more...we have taken it into account for transportation and price (which also involves tariffs), as well as the size of the final model, which is designed for display. Because many members have more than one model at home, so we are considering 1:64 or even 72, 1: 64 will be about a meter long, equivalent to frigate at 1:48 scale , and then with a length of about 840 mm at 1:72,for a small scale kit, I consider using boxwood. Because of the huge hull, it is inevitable that it will be expensive. As a matter of fact, 1:36 Cumberland is customized by a fanatical model enthusiast. He agrees to participate in the verification of this model. In addition, I don't think there will be any more orders, so I don't intend to release the 1:36 kit, but we can accept the customization, and the price will exceed $3000. So the real batch products should be 1:64 and 1:48. I wrote 1:36 in the title just for display, but now there is a 1:36 buyer indeed.Of course, if any lunatic needs 1:24, we can customize it, because we have made Cumberland 3D model. I think the limit of our production is 1:12, that is to say, the maximum size of a single part is 1200 mm long, the required board thickness is 8 cm-10 cm, and the total length of the model should be 5.2 meters,our CNC equipment for furniture production is competent for this kind of work. As for the modeler those only needs a bow section, I'm considering a large proportion one, which will only be used for display after completion. The maximum size of the figure head we can carve is about 60 cm. Jack Edited March 30, 2021 by hjx bruce d, JeffT, Beckmann and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted March 30, 2021 Share #20 Posted March 30, 2021 Computer generated cut files have infinite scale and customizable possibilities without “having to start over”. What a wonderful time to be a ship modeler. Keep the updates coming Jack. JJ Jack H and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share #21 Posted April 3, 2021 Thank you JJ, And some more parts,without any polishing and treatment, it's just a machine-made appearance. That is , this is the parts we provide. Jack PeteB, JeffT, JpR62 and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 3, 2021 Share #22 Posted April 3, 2021 That looks great Jack. The wood has a wonderful color and texture. mtaylor, Jack H and Mark P 3 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted April 3, 2021 Share #23 Posted April 3, 2021 Outstanding! 👍 Jack H 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted April 5, 2021 Share #24 Posted April 5, 2021 Wow, Jack. I can attest that those apron steps are not easy to do! mtaylor and Jack H 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted April 7, 2021 Share #25 Posted April 7, 2021 I'll take one in 1:12 please. Could you do up the interior so I can live aboard? That's some really nice stuff there. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share #26 Posted April 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Sailor1234567890 said: I'll take one in 1:12 please. Could you do up the interior so I can live aboard? That's some really nice stuff there. This can not be said to be a bad idea Sailor1234567890！LOL...I have such an idea, I used to be obsessed with the ship model Museum, about 15 years ago, so at that time I tried to do my business, hoping to invest in a hotel in the seaside（ tourist area）, where many ship models were displayed... But my several failed businesses blocked my plan. These two photos were sent to me by my friends. I don't know who the original author was. If there is any offence, please tell me that I will delete them immediately. I'm just saying that someone does build a 1:12 model... Maybe, sometimes dreams become reality...These are the big machines I mentioned which can process huge parts. Container transportation is a feasible way.😁 Jack scrubbyj427, Mark P, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted April 7, 2021 Share #27 Posted April 7, 2021 I could build (just the hull) in the basement at 1/12 scale... but it would be impossible to take it out! At 1/24, I would like to build it because visually, it is a very nice looking ship and also the figurehead is ... just superb! Jack H, mtaylor, Jorge Diaz O and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted April 7, 2021 Share #28 Posted April 7, 2021 After some thinking... well, I could not build it at 1/12 scale. There are physical limitations to the scale we can build: frigate: 1/12 scale, 74 guns: 1/24 no rigging. 74 guns, 1/36 with rigging To build a 74 guns at 1/12, it would be the outside only. The most difficult parts to build ( or more precisely, to reach) are in the hold. By example, physically at 1/24, the maximum span I can reach with my arms is in the hold. Jorge Diaz O, mtaylor, Jack H and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 7, 2021 Share #29 Posted April 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Gaetan Bordeleau said: After some thinking... well, I could not build it at 1/12 scale. There are physical limitations to the scale we can build: frigate: 1/12 scale, 74 guns: 1/24 no rigging. 74 guns, 1/36 with rigging To build a 74 guns at 1/12, it would be the outside only. The most difficult parts to build ( or more precisely, to reach) are in the hold. By example, physically at 1/24, the maximum span I can reach with my arms is in the hold. It would probably end up with you sitting inside the hull to work there at 1/12. That would be a monster to say the least. PeteB and Jack H 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share #30 Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) This is the 1:48 and 1:36 Trident, boxwood, Chinese and English versions.The trident of boxwood is just to show the effect at present. There will be Trident made of copper in the future. I have also designed some molds for batch processing, and I will release the parts for batch processing these days. Jack Edited April 13, 2021 by hjx WalrusGuy, muratx, mtaylor and 17 others 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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