bear Posted April 1, 2021 Share #1 Posted April 1, 2021 Ahoy Mates Just found out that Chuck no longer makes rope. CRAP! I know I am late to this issue but need to find out what my alternatives are. Well now where to go for rope that is almost as good. Is there anyone who I can buy rope from that is of the same type and quality? Or what else is avaliable in natural or synthetic fibre? I guess I should ahve stocked up better, but now where can I go? Thanks Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted April 1, 2021 Share #2 Posted April 1, 2021 Check out Chuck's Syren Ship Model Co. thread starting around There are many pages thereafter addressing Chuck's decision to quit making rope, making your own, and buying it from other sources. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted April 1, 2021 Share #3 Posted April 1, 2021 Crafty Sailor has a range of rope made from synthetics that look pretty good. A lot of us started making our own rope. Ether make your own Ropewalk or get Chucks rope rocket. It's quite fun to experiment with various threads and see what you can make. I'm sure more people will come forward with products to sell in the future. I've made some good looking rope out of Aurifil thread and my even sell it in the future. Anyone on here know how to make a website? catopower, mtaylor and Chuck 3 Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted April 9, 2021 Share #4 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) https://www.rigging-ropes.com/ Is in Germany. Have used the products twice. Great quality... great service, reasonable prices. Edited April 9, 2021 by MESSIS Ryland Craze, Chuck, BenD and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted April 9, 2021 Share #5 Posted April 9, 2021 When it's time for me to make my rope, I'm going to purchase Chuck's rope making device. He published a tutorial for it, and it looks like it would be very satisfying to use. Alan Captain Poison and Chuck 2 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyleK1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share #6 Posted April 9, 2021 I too, just purchased the Rope Rocket and the Serving machines from Chuck and Syren. Haven't assembled them yet but will over the weekend. Looking forward to experimenting with both machines. I have plenty of time since I'm just planking the hull on my current build (HMS Bounty). Still deciding on what thread to buy or maybe just experiment with what came in the kit. Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted April 9, 2021 Share #7 Posted April 9, 2021 Lyle Don't use the kit string if at all possible. Search the many threads here and on the net on making rope. Gutermann and other brands of materials are reviewed and discussed. You will also need to decide if you want to go with cotton, linen, or poly. Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyleK1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share #8 Posted April 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, allanyed said: Lyle Don't use the kit string if at all possible. Search the many threads here and on the net on making rope. Gutermann and other brands of materials are reviewed and discussed. You will also need to decide if you want to go with cotton, linen, or poly. Wasn't planning to use it for anything more than just practicing... Reading others comments (and yours), it sounds like Gutermann is the way to go... Thanks for the advise! mtaylor 1 Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Hunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share #9 Posted April 9, 2021 Use wire. It lasts longer! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted April 10, 2021 Share #10 Posted April 10, 2021 Tony, I know McCaffery and McNarry use wire on VERY small scale models, but for 1:98 and larger it will look like, well,..... wire, not rope. Guess it depends on how much realism one wants to depict on their model and in the end, whatever make the builder happy. mtaylor, Chuck Seiler, dvm27 and 1 other 4 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted April 10, 2021 Share #11 Posted April 10, 2021 5 hours ago, LyleK1 said: You will also need to decide if you want to go with cotton, linen, or poly. Or hemp, which is now becoming available on the market. Hemp is nearly identical with linen, which has become very difficult to source. I've not yet tried hemp and it appears that it is not yet produced in as wide a range of sizes and colors as the other options, but it is easily dyed, or you could tar it with pine tar for the ultimate in accuracy! The big question in my mind is whether it's being produced in the quality we require (no lumps.) If anybody has tried it yet, I'd like to know. Hemp is stronger than cotton and not "plastic" like the synthetics. It should last the longest if the literature is to be believed. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted April 10, 2021 Share #12 Posted April 10, 2021 Here is a link for linen yarn that goes down to 90/3. https://store.vavstuga.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_code=yarns-linen-lace 90/3 means three strands of 90 LEA. ETSY can get into Baltic suppliers of raw linen yarn in cones to feed a ropewalk. Unfortunately the quality control could be better. If it was a lump that made it to the final twist up rope -it would just be an annoyance. With my machine, it produces a feed yarn break, which is another level of frustration. mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catopower Posted April 10, 2021 Share #13 Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, MESSIS said: https://www.rigging-ropes.com/ Is in Germany. Have used the products twice. Great quality... great service, reasonable prices. Getting back to the original topic, which is about what sources there are for finished rope, I have to say this looks very nice. Thanks for the post MESSIS. Edited April 10, 2021 by catopower allanyed and MESSIS 2 Quote Clare Hess He's a -> "HE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtH Posted April 12, 2021 Share #14 Posted April 12, 2021 I went to rigging-ropes.com to order rope. It turns out that they do not ship to the US. I discovered that when the US was not included in the list of countries they ship to during the checkout process. allanyed and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornet Posted April 12, 2021 Share #15 Posted April 12, 2021 I use my own home made rope walker. I scour antique stores for cotton and linen thread. Apparently old cotton reels are collectable. I’ve found that old thread is often better quality than modern thread. mtaylor 1 Quote Hornet Current Build: - OcCre Shackleton’s Endurance. Completed Ship Builds: Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour. (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery) Aeropiccola - Golden Hind - Constitution Clipper Seawitch (maker unknown - too long ago to remember!) Corel - Victory Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery Completed Cannon: - French 18th Century Naval Cannon - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece - English 18th Century Carronade Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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