NAZGÛL Posted December 12, 2013 Share #121 Posted December 12, 2013 Looks good! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share #122 Posted December 13, 2013 Thanks Matti - much appreciated. Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share #123 Posted December 23, 2013 A little update - Been working on the gunport lids.Starboard side upper row done.Work on the ship has slowed considerably - blew out something in my shoulder that will require surgery after the first of the year.Can still do some of the small things but not much else. Happy Holidays to everyone at MSW & thanks for looking in. Mark tarbrush, Lin Feng, NMBROOK and 3 others 6 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted December 24, 2013 Share #124 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Looks great, the lions look really sharp. Merry Christmas Mark! /Matti Edited December 24, 2013 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted December 24, 2013 Share #125 Posted December 24, 2013 Fabulous work Mark I am sorry to hear of your injury,I hope all goes well and wishing you a speedy recovery. Merry Xmas Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted December 24, 2013 Share #126 Posted December 24, 2013 Yeah, sorry to hear about your shoulder! Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted December 24, 2013 Share #127 Posted December 24, 2013 Yeah, sorry to hear about your shoulder! Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share #128 Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks everyone.I`m sure everything will turn out ok after the doctor`s magic touch! NMBROOK 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted December 28, 2013 Share #129 Posted December 28, 2013 Mark, OUCH..sorry to hear that. Get better soon. Looks awesome. Nice work on the cannon lids. PS: regarding tools in general, check out Alexandru's last two pages using the entry level Proxxon DB-250 lathe (if you have not already visited). Genious work /Scratch built section HMS Victory. He is Yoda times 1000. Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share #130 Posted December 29, 2013 Thanks Michael.Have been to that build several times - he is in a class by himself. Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share #131 Posted January 1, 2014 Another small update.Got the rest of the gunport lids installed.Darkened the shiny brass cannons with a thinned black wash - didn`t want to blacken them as I`m pretty sure they were made of bronze.The wash seems to have given them a somewhat rustic look. Mark md1400cs, Landlubber Mike, tasmanian and 4 others 7 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted January 1, 2014 Share #132 Posted January 1, 2014 Mark, Super impressive update. You are right your cannon wash looks perfect. You painting details on the figures are also very beautiful. You are very nicely capturing the look of the Vasa. Are those the cannons that Sergal includes in the kit? They look so much better than those Corel's "parts bin" issues. Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share #133 Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Thanks Michael.The cannons are the ones that came in the kit - one of the better parts of the kit.They are cast brass or bronze,not turned.The hull is pretty much done so I`m not sure what I will move on to next - maybe the masts.need to look around & see how close to correct my plans are.I`m pretty sure the rigging is way off so I am planning to use Corel`s rigging plans which seem much better.Any one know what kind of stern lantern this ship may have had?I assume it did have a stern lantern - I haven`t seen a ship of this era yet that didn`t have one.The one in the kit seems a bit out of scale.Also does anyone know if it had a rudder chain or rope? Mark Edited January 1, 2014 by marktiedens Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted January 1, 2014 Share #134 Posted January 1, 2014 Great work Mark.I love the cannons.You get a very similar look blackening them and then brushing with a brass brush,however your way is less work.Every kit seems to depict the lantern as a big 'glitterball' but I am sure the original would have been a little more conservative.I am sure those in the 'know' will be able to shed some light(no pun intended) on the matter. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriss Posted January 1, 2014 Share #135 Posted January 1, 2014 Vasa indeed had a lantern, but it hasn't been found, or has been found and not reassembled (http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SwedishWarshipWasa/conversations/topics/1449) - one personal guess is that the lantern would be one of the simpler things to salvage even back in the 1600's, if it was still attached as the ship hit the bottom. As for the shape, good question. There's a mention of some typical Dutch designs from the era in Old ship figure-heads and sterns - see http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Figure-Heads-Sterns-Dover-Maritime/dp/0486415333 (Click Look Inside, search for Zeelandia. Pages 158 and 159 are your paydirt). They're all simpler than the glitterball. Good book in general, by the looks of it. Nice illustrations of a lot of various bits and bobs. Haven't had time to read through my paper copy yet. There's also a lantern depicted in the Vasa documentary, see http://www.dn.se/Images/2011/12/27/TV-vasa1-430.jpg for a still. Not sure how well researched this is, but it seems pretty typical for the period and the dutch, judging by the above book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted January 1, 2014 Share #136 Posted January 1, 2014 Thanks Michael.The cannons are the ones that came in the kit - one of the better parts of the kit.They are cast brass or bronze,not turned.The hull is pretty much done so I`m not sure what I will move on to next - maybe the masts.need to look around & see how close to correct my plans are.I`m pretty sure the rigging is way off so I am planning to use Corel`s rigging plans which seem much better.Any one know what kind of stern lantern this ship may have had?I assume it did have a stern lantern - I haven`t seen a ship of this era yet that didn`t have one.The one in the kit seems a bit out of scale.Also does anyone know if it had a rudder chain or rope? Mark Mark, I have some good drawings of how the main mast looked assembled (the Landström book). If you need any pics. I'll be happy to post them. Regards, Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #137 Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks for the responses guys.I did find a couple of good photos & 1 drawing on the Wasa Dream website which shows how the upper mast sections were attached.It looks as though they are fastened with metal straps rather than going through holes in the mast caps.Looks like I will have to modify the kit parts again!I do have an idea for a lantern - need to think about it for awhile. Michael - if you would like to post a couple of pics that would be great. regards,Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted January 2, 2014 Share #138 Posted January 2, 2014 Beautiful log Mark! I have some good drawings of how the main mast looked assembled (the Landström book). If you need any pics. I'll be happy to post them. Quick question, you and Michael mention "The Landstrom Book"Can you point me to the name of the book? Thanks, Frank marktiedens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #139 Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks Frank.I don`t know the title of the book - you might try asking Michael in his log. regards,Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 2, 2014 Share #140 Posted January 2, 2014 Great looking, and very artistic work. - Bug marktiedens 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Victory Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted January 2, 2014 Share #141 Posted January 2, 2014 Some pics of the main mast. The "Dream Vasa" site prob. has a more accurate looking main mast. Clayton's Vasa seems to have used that look as well and not Landström's The Royal Warship VASA for the main mast assembly. Though I asked Clayton how he put it together and he said that he "scored" the mast to make it look as though it was assembled from several pieces. Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #142 Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks Michael & Bug - much appreciated. Looks like my plans are not too far off. Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share #143 Posted January 6, 2014 Started work on the masts - been asssembling the tops.All the parts are laser cut & fit nicely although they are quite fragile until assembled.Didn`t try to file or alter them as I was afraid they would fall apart in my hands. Pictures are extremely slow loading - hope they came through ok. Mark Jaxboat and tarbrush 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted January 6, 2014 Share #144 Posted January 6, 2014 The top looks fabulous Mark I certainly wouldn't relish have to cut those parts out from scratch! Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted January 6, 2014 Share #145 Posted January 6, 2014 Looks very nice Mark! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 6, 2014 Share #146 Posted January 6, 2014 Pictures came through fine. Nice patient work, looks great. - Bug Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Victory Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #147 Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks everyone.Despite the kit inaccuracies it does have some good points.There`s no way I could have made all those little brackets from scratch with my meager abilities. Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbrush Posted January 7, 2014 Share #148 Posted January 7, 2014 the top looks great Mark!! marktiedens 1 Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #149 Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks John! Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted January 7, 2014 Share #150 Posted January 7, 2014 Started work on the masts - been asssembling the tops.All the parts are laser cut & fit nicely although they are quite fragile until assembled.Didn`t try to file or alter them as I was afraid they would fall apart in my hands. 001.JPG 002.JPG Pictures are extremely slow loading - hope they came through ok. Mark Mark, Looking so excellent. This is a good opportunity to compare kits. Your Sergal mast tops are so easy to work with. The enclosed pic is how Corel approached this part of the kit. As you can see there are several solid pieces of rounded wood, along with all needed "rings" For this Corel includes cast metal rings with small stubs. The wood cross members need to be all individually cut from stock. So needless to say, when I get there I will have to scratch build five of these platforms piece by piece. Grrrr (:-) Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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