Wahka_est Posted September 25, 2021 Share #91 Posted September 25, 2021 Hi How is it going with planking? Vahur hobbymill.eu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share #92 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 11:09 AM, desalgu said: Your planking is looking awesome to me! Planking around gun ports looks very clean and neat. You could certainly give me a lesson or two! I agree with all the comments above about small differences between the two sides. It would take strips of wood cut to extremely close tolerances to get both sides the same. Only way to have a chance of doing that is to cut your own. But I don't think it will matter for reasons pointed out above. Thanks so much David! 2 hours ago, Wahka_est said: Hi How is it going with planking? Vahur hobbymill.eu Hi Vahur, many thanks for checking in! I got a bit busy with school/work so I took a bit of a break from the ship. I got a bit of time again so will continue. I'll post once I finish planking above the wales which is halfway done from my last post 😁 Cathead 1 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share #93 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) I finished planking one side to the top, so thought I'd share some progress photos together with the messy worktable 😁 Planking near the bow towards the top of the beak bulkhead required some twisting of the planks. So here was my workaround for that. I soaked some strips in water then used clamps and some wood to twist them: It made it easier to glue without holding the planks for a long time for the glue to set: I had to deviate from the instructions here and needed to add one more strip before the one that extends to the end of the ship. This was needed for a more natural fit and I saw others did the same in their logs. I cut the lintels (for the top row gun ports) before planking till the top since it made it easier to paint the gun ports without planks coming on the way. Once I finish planking the other side, I'll take better photos with a cleaner table! Edited October 1, 2021 by WalrusGuy BobG, Peter Bloemendaal, Edwardkenway and 15 others 17 1 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted October 2, 2021 Share #94 Posted October 2, 2021 Looks really nice! Your planking is so clean! At first I thought the twisted wood strips were some kind of cat's cradle automaton - which would be pretty cool to see if you can work one up once you're done this! Have fun!! Wish I could build like that! I'll keep practicing! hamilton WalrusGuy 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch) under the bench: Admiralty Echo cross-section; MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share #95 Posted October 2, 2021 16 hours ago, hamilton said: Looks really nice! Your planking is so clean! At first I thought the twisted wood strips were some kind of cat's cradle automaton - which would be pretty cool to see if you can work one up once you're done this! Have fun!! Wish I could build like that! I'll keep practicing! hamilton Thank you, Hamilton! Yup it does look a bit crazy looking. I'll look into how to make cradle automaton, looks complex 😄 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted October 2, 2021 Share #96 Posted October 2, 2021 Beautiful work and what a great idea for twisting planks - I'm stealing that one. BobG and WalrusGuy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share #97 Posted October 3, 2021 12 hours ago, No Idea said: Beautiful work and what a great idea for twisting planks - I'm stealing that one. Thanks Mark! 😁 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share #98 Posted October 7, 2021 Thanks again everyone for the likes and comments! I finished planking both sides of the ship till the top. Here are a couple of pictures to mark this milestone of the build: I'll next start working on the first layer of main wales, then the sweep ports. I am thinking I should then start treenailing since it will be easier to sand before I install the 2nd layer of the main and channel wales. Richvee, yvesvidal, Tigersteve and 15 others 16 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted October 7, 2021 Share #99 Posted October 7, 2021 Very Nice looking work there, It pay to take your time and as you can see the rewards are worth it. Michael Retired guy and WalrusGuy 1 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted October 8, 2021 Share #100 Posted October 8, 2021 Excellent planking job! This will be a magnificent model! Thomas WalrusGuy 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share #101 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 1:56 PM, michael mott said: Very Nice looking work there, It pay to take your time and as you can see the rewards are worth it. Michael On 10/8/2021 at 5:44 AM, Gahm said: Excellent planking job! This will be a magnificent model! Thomas Thank you Michael and Thomas! 🙂 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share #102 Posted October 15, 2021 The first layer of main wales have now been planked. I also finished gluing in all the sweep port lids and ballast port lids. Here are some pics of where I am at right now: I will next start working on treenailing the planks before starting to plank beneath the wales (something I am very nervous about!!! 😅) No Idea, Richvee, Wahka_est and 16 others 19 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abelson Posted October 16, 2021 Share #103 Posted October 16, 2021 Fine work. Clean and crisp. WalrusGuy 1 Quote Steven E. Sylven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted October 16, 2021 Share #104 Posted October 16, 2021 Looks great! Very clean planking job so far hamilton WalrusGuy 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch) under the bench: Admiralty Echo cross-section; MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share #105 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 3:45 PM, abelson said: Fine work. Clean and crisp. 23 hours ago, hamilton said: Looks great! Very clean planking job so far hamilton Thank you for the nice words, Steven and Hamilton! Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share #106 Posted October 17, 2021 I finished treenailing the stern area. This time I went down to the 2nd smallest hole in the Byrnes drawplate. This way the treenails entered the hole more easily. I will apply the tung oil after all the planking and treenailing is done. When I apply the oil the treenails will show better. I also marked all the locations of the treenails on the starboard side of the ship: michael mott, KurtH, Retired guy and 10 others 11 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted October 18, 2021 Share #107 Posted October 18, 2021 That is quite an impressive model - and a lot of treenails! 😉 Thomas Edwardkenway and WalrusGuy 1 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share #108 Posted October 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Gahm said: That is quite an impressive model - and a lot of treenails! 😉 Thomas Yes many many treenails! I had to take a breather after marking them on one side 😄 Oh and speaking of a break, for those interested, I have set up a build log of the HMS Pickle model which I am building using yellow cedar. I plan to switch back and forth between the Confed build and the smaller schooner. This would serve as a nice break between the long modelling sessions of the Confed build: BobG, Cathead and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted October 18, 2021 Share #109 Posted October 18, 2021 How many tree nails are there? WalrusGuy and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share #110 Posted October 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nirvana said: How many tree nails are there? Too afraid too even begin counting!!! Edwardkenway and BobG 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share #111 Posted October 20, 2021 Finally finished marking out the treenails on the other side of the hull. Here are some pictures before some major hole drilling! And I started drilling a small section. I found it easier to drill the holes with the model on my lap while sitting on a sofa rather than on the workbench scrubbyj427, Cathead, KurtH and 10 others 10 3 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted October 20, 2021 Share #112 Posted October 20, 2021 Looks fantastic! Treenailing is one of the most tedious and boring steps in model ship building but worth it in the end. Nice job! WalrusGuy 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share #113 Posted October 21, 2021 23 hours ago, BobG said: Looks fantastic! Treenailing is one of the most tedious and boring steps in model ship building but worth it in the end. Nice job! Thank you Bob! Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiscovery Posted October 22, 2021 Share #114 Posted October 22, 2021 Been watching your build for a while. What a treat! You're doing beautiful work. I admire your skill and perseverance. How deep are you drilling those treenail holes? Pete WalrusGuy, No Idea and BobG 3 Quote Pete Current Build: Charles W. Morgan - Model Expo Completed Builds: Santa Maria, Cutty Sark, HMS Bounty - Marine Model Co. On The Shelf: Flying Fish, HMS Endeavor, USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share #115 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, datadiscovery said: Been watching your build for a while. What a treat! You're doing beautiful work. I admire your skill and perseverance. How deep are you drilling those treenail holes? Pete Hi Pete, thanks so much for the nice words! Really appreciate it 🙂 I am drilling them about half way through the planks (so about 1/32" deep give or take). I have placed the drill bit like this so that the chuck can act as a stopper: Edited October 22, 2021 by WalrusGuy Cathead, Edwardkenway, No Idea and 2 others 5 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share #116 Posted October 22, 2021 Finished drilling all the holes on the starboard side! So I am halfway now 😀 CiscoH, scrubbyj427, No Idea and 14 others 15 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted October 22, 2021 Share #117 Posted October 22, 2021 That is such nice work and in scale too........Your patience and skill is to be admired as thats a lot of treenails and it looks simply awesome! michael mott and WalrusGuy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiscovery Posted October 24, 2021 Share #118 Posted October 24, 2021 Letting just the little end of the bit stick out is a great idea. Wish I'd thought of it. Hope you don't mind if I steal it from you when I start my treenailing. Pete WalrusGuy 1 Quote Pete Current Build: Charles W. Morgan - Model Expo Completed Builds: Santa Maria, Cutty Sark, HMS Bounty - Marine Model Co. On The Shelf: Flying Fish, HMS Endeavor, USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted October 26, 2021 Share #119 Posted October 26, 2021 I have never been thrilled with the look of treenails at scales smaller than 1:48, but after seeing your work, I am reconsidering this as my current project is 1:64. Sorry if I missed it if you already mentioned it, but what material are you using for the treenails? I cannot think of any wood that goes through the smallest holes in the Byrnes plate without problems other than bamboo, at least based on my own experience. Allan WalrusGuy 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share #120 Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 2:31 PM, No Idea said: That is such nice work and in scale too........Your patience and skill is to be admired as thats a lot of treenails and it looks simply awesome! On 10/23/2021 at 11:37 PM, datadiscovery said: Letting just the little end of the bit stick out is a great idea. Wish I'd thought of it. Hope you don't mind if I steal it from you when I start my treenailing. Pete Thank you for the nice comments! And I don't mind at all 😁 51 minutes ago, allanyed said: I have never been thrilled with the look of treenails at scales smaller than 1:48, but after seeing your work, I am reconsidering this as my current project is 1:64. Sorry if I missed it if you already mentioned it, but what material are you using for the treenails? I cannot think of any wood that goes through the smallest holes in the Byrnes plate without problems other than bamboo, at least based on my own experience. Allan Yes I'm using bamboo, but I've seen that some brands of bamboo skewers don't have a nice finish (they have more of dots or speckles when sanded smooth). You can see this in Mike's post here: From his post he also drew boxwood till the 2nd hole on the drawplate. So I tried a couple brands of bamboo skewers before settling on the no name brand from SuperStore I go all the way through to the second smallest hole on the drawplate. This is the only size that fits nice with the smallest drill bit I have (0.3 mm). The smallest one is too loose and the 3rd smallest is too tight. Moonbug and allanyed 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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