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2 minutes ago, CDW said:

Well you're making it look like you are an "old pro". Your work is first rate. Complex models intrigue me most and it really helps build patience, something I sometimes lack. 1:700 scale has forced me to slow down because there is no practical way I can find to do it faster. 

I think its more enjoyable aslo  to tackle a project like this is small  slow stages,  as its something to look forward to  doing with each stage - guess it helps taking a small break to go off and do something else in between.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Today has been spent working on the detail pieces. I weathered the wooden deck with light dry brushing of Burnt Sienna oil paint. I probably could have added more but I am nervous of overdoing it and its irreversible.

Life were painted and added . I added a thin black wash to the light grey deck fittings to bring out the detail. The torpedo tubes need a bit more work.

The first sets of railings are on and so far they are a good fit. The PE rails on the gun platforms were the most complex bends I have attempted with railing so I was happy to get something reasonable out of the work. Lots of lockers added and the main guns were cleaned up and are ready to install. I'm trying to tidy up painting as I go rather than wait to the end and find its tough get to the area of concern.

I ordered epoxy resin and sculpting medium reedy for the fjord diorama. I was looking for extruded polystyrene for the hills but so far haven't found any. Expanded polystyrene might work but will be messier I suspect.

 

Thanks for looking

 

Alan

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I am liking that A lot Alan   - really coming together.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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17 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

I think its more enjoyable aslo  to tackle a project like this is small  slow stages,  as its something to look forward to  doing with each stage - guess it helps taking a small break to go off and do something else in between.

 

OC.

Hi OC, I think that is one of the things I am enjoying about Penelope. With the small destroyers you can't really break out the superstructure there isn't enough of it so you do the main build then primer, then wait, then first main colour, then wait, then mask and paint again. So there are days when it seems you can only work on it for an hour. With this build there are so many areas to play with. I still have a lot more details to add to the ship, the boats need to be painted and the Seafox needs to be painted too.

Alan

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26 minutes ago, CDW said:

Well you're making it look like you are an "old pro". Your work is first rate. Complex models intrigue me most and it really helps build patience, something I sometimes lack. 1:700 scale has forced me to slow down because there is no practical way I can find to do it faster. 

Craig, Thank you very much for the praise; it is very encouraging from someone with your skills. For me this has been the most enjoyable build as well as the most complicated. I've enjoyed trying plot my way through the various stages of the build. I do tend to work on an element and then go and do something else for a while and maybe plot the next move.

 

Alan

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Slowly progressing through the details. Some of the parts have needed painting in my best guess of the colour scheme as I realise how they fit into the ship. The booms on the ships sides, ventilators etc. The PE railing is slowly going on. I finished the rear superstructure railings which are the last ones that have complex bends. There isn't much more PE to add now, depth chargers and and a few small details. I plan to use the plastic boat davits, they are quite nice and more three dimensional than the PE. I started painting the boats and the aircraft. The Walrus is nice but I like the Seafox better. It seems like I'm approaching the end but there are still a lot of parts left on the sprues, especially the searchlights, paravanes and small weapons. Useful for a lot of other kits where the detail is inferior.

Its interesting, possibly  because The Arethusa class was prewar but two quad .50 cal guns doesn't seem an exceptionally aggressive air defence system

 

Thanks 

 

Alan

 

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The detail work continues along with cleaning up the "completed" sections. The photos are ruthless at showing up the problems and the first part of the days efforts is tidying up the issues seen in the previous nights photos. The main deck railings were completed which is a major milestone for me. I think nice clean railings are one of the single most attractive upgrades but done badly they spoil the model.

The ships boats were painted and mostly added to the ship. The six inch guns are on now and the four inch guns were tidied up a bit.

I did find the extruded polystyrene I wanted for the fjord diorama (Lowes 24 x 24 x 1 inch for $5.95) so I will start thinking about that as well as finishing off the details and the Seafox. Masts, derrick and the catapult can then be added.

 

Alan

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That is looking really nice Alan,   and aint that just the truth about too much magnification showing  too much detail  - its the same with my  Edinburgh build  - even the slightest difference in paint layers not where they should be showing up.

 

Keep up the good work my friend.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Progressing today with the details; sprayed the Seafox with the light grey, added davits to the ship and tidied up some paintwork as well as painting some parts that look like they should be part of the brown scheme rather than left light grey. 

 

I started scoping out the basics of the diorama. Its going to take up more space than just putting Penelope in the sdisplay case but I would like to do the fjord scene to put the camouflage in context so I think I'll give it a try.

 

I have a question for the more experienced. The wooden deck was supplied with paint masks and anchor chain. The chain is quite nice but I think it is overscale. Using the Vernier I make the link length to be about 35 inch long at  full size and the link thickness to be about 6.5 inches. The thickness looks good but I think the links are too long and fat. Any thoughts?

I don't like the flat PE chain but I think I am stuck with it. My plan was to show her at anchor in the fjord so I might have to get creative. Maybe use the PE chain on the deck and the other chain from the hawse hole to the water?

Thanks for the help

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Thanks Craig.

I'm looking at the 1/700 resin chain RGL used on Eskimo. From the website it is 0.15 mm which I guess is the link thickness. If so the link length is about o.75mm long (21 inches at full scale) instead of the 1.3 mm of the chain that I have. The links look narrower too. I might have to order some and see how it looks.

Thanks

Alan

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The details condoned over the last few days. The railings were completed. For some reason I found the Flyhawk railings easier to install than my previous attempt using Eduard railings. The derrick and catapult were added with breath held! The Seafox was painted and the decals applied without losing any of them. A general clean up and removal of cat hairs and this morning with breath held even longer the Seafox was added to the catapult. It probably should have been further back on the catapult but the derrick was now in the way. There is a lesson in planning and I should have thought about this and angled the derrick to provide better access to the catapult. The 6 Ps in action!. I tried out the Rust Oilbrushers and was very impressed with the way it comes out. I think I was a bit heavy handed around the hawse holes and too light under the port holes but it was a first attempt and I don't think it ruined the model. There is a lot of pigment in one small dot of paint.

This will be as far as I go for a while, You will note that the anchors are not present. I'm waiting to see how the diorama works out. If it comes together it will depict the ship at anchor. I have sent off for some 1/700 chain and hopefully that will take care of the foredeck and the anchoring of the ship.

I made a start on the diorama base and determined the dimensions. The width of the diorama will be compressed putting the ship at anchor to the shore much closer than a careful captain would enjoy. I sent off for resin and the material to make a display case to go over it.

The cost of the model pales into insignificance compared to the display case, teh diorama materials, weathering etc. But they all make it more fun.

 

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That is looking excellent  - really starting to look busy.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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22 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

That is looking excellent  - really starting to look busy.

 

OC.

Thank you very much OC. This is the most complicated ship I have attempted. First wooden deck, most complicated PE and first use of brass guns. I have learnt a lot, had some very useful suggestions on tackling the work which has made it a better model so many thanks to everyone for that.

I'm reading up on diorama techniques to try to create part of a snowy fjord.

 

Alan

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57 minutes ago, CDW said:

She is a beauty Alan. Excellent model.

Craig. Thank you; that means a lot. There are some of your invaluable tips incorporated into this model \. Its been a challenge but its also been great fun and it has boosted my confidence for The Prince Of Wales when it shows up.

The wooden decks showed up yesterday along with a very fine metal anchor chain that might get commandeered for Penelope.

Thanks

Alan

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very nice progress.......neat and tidy.......very well done :)   looks like you'll be done in no time!

I yam wot I yam!

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Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

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Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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On 7/1/2021 at 1:54 PM, popeye the sailor said:

very nice progress.......neat and tidy.......very well done :)   looks like you'll be done in no time!

Thank you Popeye. I learnt a lot building this one. PE forming is an art all on its own. I think having better tools helped a lot on this build; using shorter runs of railing and generally using Gators Grip glue instead of CA. The last few details will be completed on the diorama.

 

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So now to try to recreate a 1/700 bit of a Norwegian Fjord. Please let me know if it is not acceptable to continue with this in the current thread or whether it should be moved. I hope the later posts will reintroduce HMS Penelope on the diorama with details like anchor chains added and possibly tenders out and about.

 

The base is a 20 x 11 inch piece of extruded polystyrene which should fit the display box I have ordered. Further pieces from the sheet were cut to form the basic shape of the mountains. I used Weldbond glue to stick them in place and that seems to have created a good bond. Cocktail sticks were used to hold it all together while the glue dried.

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After 24 hours to let the glue set well I started carving the basic shapes to suit my idea of the terrain. The extruded polystyrene carves much better than expanded polystyrene but the blades on scalpels and hobby knives are not really long enough to make the cuts I wanted.

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Oh My! Is that a kitchen knife I see there? It has a very fine serrated and slightly flexible blade and it went through the foam very easily. Hopefully it will still do the same with tomatoes

The ravine at centre will be a frozen waterfall I hope. 

After the tense breath holding working on tiny PE this is very relaxing for the muscles. I have an overall idea of what I want but teh details are being developed on the fly.

Happy 4th July Weekend for some and Euro 2020 quarterfinals for others

Alan

 

 

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I think this is the perfect place mate for you to continue  - its still your project  and we are all loving watching it grow.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Alan, this is still part of the model just like stands and even cases.   Carry on....

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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I decided I needed some rocky texture to add to the cliffs and steep parts of the mountains. All the real stuff in the garden is rounded and waterworn so I resorted to making some. I lined a small box with crumpled kitchen foil and poured in some Plaster of Paris. Its out of the mould now and looks quite good. I made a second thinner cast. Once it has dried and cured the plan is to break it up and use it in pieces embedded in the Scupltamold compound. A messy day I suspect.

A fit check with the display case suggests all is well so far.

Alan

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Just an FYI, Alan,  Woodland Scenics  makes some really good reusable rubber molds for all types of cliff faces, etc.  I've used them on several dioramas. See my Sherman tank build log around post #158 for an example.. 

 

Nice job ! 

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Thanks Jack

The Woodland Scenics moulds look very useful; the crumpled foil moulds are a bit hit and miss as to how they turn out. Woodland Scenics seems another huge source of diorama material.

Have you ever used Sculptamold ? I used it for the first time and I'm not sure how long it takes to dry.

Thanks

Alan

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