rraisley Posted November 17, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 17, 2021 You may have seen these advertised on eBay: small Stern- and Mid-Sections (maybe Fore- as well) ship sections in 1:128 scale (pretty much fit in your hand) and are basic structural sections without a lot of detail. They interest me, looking for a new but simple project to work on. I know they are made in China, and know the opinion here about knock-offs, but don't see that they are copies of any other model. On eBay they sell for about $80 or so each, and are definitely shipped from China. I think I've seen Chinese sites offer them direct at lower prices, but they use the same photos, so if they both come from China, I would expect them to be identical kits and not, again, knock-offs. But I don't know that. I searched here and found nothing, but was wondering 1) If there are thoughts against these types of kits, assuming they are /not/ knock-offs, and 2) Has anyone seen any or had any experience with them? I could post links and pics, but haven't (yet) in case these kits are considered "no-no's". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 17, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 17, 2021 I've PM'd Chuck on this to make sure he sees it. He's probably the most qualified to answer you. Not all Chinese kits are made by pirates but thanks for thinking ahead on this. bruce d, Ryland Craze and Canute 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted November 17, 2021 Share #3 Posted November 17, 2021 The kit, I believe, is supposed to be based on Hahn plans. It's also produced by Unicorn, who are known IP thieves, so the subject matter is irrelevant. I'm afraid that if you openly buy that kit, then you will lose your MSW privileges/membership. Ryland Craze, bruce d, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted November 17, 2021 Share #4 Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, rraisley said: I would expect them to be identical kits and not, again, knock-offs. But I don't know that. Pat on the back for asking and trying to do the right thing. James H, Canute, ccoyle and 3 others 6 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted November 17, 2021 Share #5 Posted November 17, 2021 Jim is correct in that those cross sections are made by Unicorn which is one of the largest pirate mfg’s in China. They have stolen designs from many others such as Amati, Panart, Mantua, Corel etc. And yes the Druid kits you mention are copies and knock-offs of Harold Hahn’s Druid plans although reduced. They are 1 to 1 copies actually. Their kits are not allowed on MSW. Purchasing them means giving monetary support to them. And yes they are cheap, as is typical of Chinese products. Rik Thistle, gieb8688, chris watton and 3 others 6 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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