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When to fix the bow pattern and keel pieces?


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Instructions for, say, the Amati HMS Vanguard call for the bow pattern and keel pieces to be fixed and then for the final bulkhead fairing to take place. Being careful, of course, not to damage the aforementioned walnut pieces. It strikes me, though, that if those pieces were not in place, the fairing would be easier. Is there any reason not to leave the fixing of those pieces until after fairing is completed?

 

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Depending on the kit, things might go way south into never-never land.   I'd suggest you take the bow bits and make a temporatry bow out of scrap.  Keeping in the proper plance might be a mental exercise but it should be doable.  After fairing, replace the bow with the kit parts.

Mark
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Being at that same point,  I see two conflicting factors in play.  It is much easier to fare the bow without the stem.  Rather than having a notch where the stemson would be, I opted for a stemson that is flush with the bow timbers. But with it being all that is there, the danger and likely outcome is the stemson will be rounded over and not provide a sufficient landing for the stem.  Thinking on it, the wise choice is to attach a temporary sacrificial piece of wood where the stem will be.  Let it take all of the abuse.  I think a bent thicker ribbon of wood may do the trick.

 

I am not being able to resolve a dowel - not dowel  conflict as regards how to attach the stem assembly.   I do not see a need to fix the stem until I am ready to attach the wale, so I can put it off.

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HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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Thanks for the responses. As mtaylor and Jaager suggested, I think that I will go with the 'sacrificial' stem and keel pieces.

 

Finished: Billings Nordkap / Billings Boulogne Etaples / Billings Evelyn / Billings Elbjorn

In progress: Billings HMS Endeavour / Billings HMS Bounty / Caldercraft HMS Pickle / Amati HMS Vanguard / Caldercraft HMS Victory / Caldercraft HMS Badger / Caldercraft HMS Diana / Caldercraft HMS Snake / Amati HMS Pegasus

In the dim distant past: Model Slipway Wyeforce / Mountfleet Models Boston Typhoon (abandoned build) / Bluejacket Charles P. Notman (abandoned)

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