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Any tips on adding aftermarket Hasegawa wooden decks to a plastic model kit?


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Hello all!

 

I will soon begin on the Hasegawa 1:350 Mikasa, and was wondering if anyone could direct me to a resource, or let me know about adding the wooden decks to it?

 

Do I need to scrape away the molded deck? Or does the adhesive simply go over top of it?

 

Any info would be a great help, and thanks in advance!

 

Cap'n Snack

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Have you looked into builds in the kit area?   Many, not just the Mikasa, use aftermarket wooden decks.  What I've observed while not having done a plastic ship model is decades, is that many of the molded bits have to be removed as aftermarket parts (PE usually) replace them.

Mark
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17 hours ago, Cap'n Snack said:

Hello all!

 

I will soon begin on the Hasegawa 1:350 Mikasa, and was wondering if anyone could direct me to a resource, or let me know about adding the wooden decks to it?

 

Do I need to scrape away the molded deck? Or does the adhesive simply go over top of it?

 

Any info would be a great help, and thanks in advance!

 

Cap'n Snack

Hi Cap’n

I am currently building a 1:200 Mikasa and am incorporating a wooden deck, which I will be starting on sometime in the next couple of weeks. The answer to your question depends on the wooden deck upgrade you are working with. I am using the upgrade kit from Pontos that also involves a lot of other photo-etch parts. The wooden deck in this upgrade kit has a self adhesive backing, but I understand you can alternatively use glue. In my case, there are many embossed protrusions on the plastic deck that first have to be removed before applying the wood deck.  
Tim

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Doesn't the Hasegawa deck instructions tell you whether you need to cut or sand away the plastic details?  I had good instructions on sticking on the linoleum deck appliqué on my Hasegawa destroyer.

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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On 2/28/2022 at 1:03 PM, mtaylor said:

Have you looked into builds in the kit area?   Many, not just the Mikasa, use aftermarket wooden decks.  What I've observed while not having done a plastic ship model is decades, is that many of the molded bits have to be removed as aftermarket parts (PE usually) replace them.

Thanks for the advice; I agree, many of the original plastic parts will need to be cut away or replaced, but I'm just not sure if  have to remove the molded deck as well.

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On 3/1/2022 at 8:30 AM, Landlubber Mike said:

Doesn't the Hasegawa deck instructions tell you whether you need to cut or sand away the plastic details?  I had good instructions on sticking on the linoleum deck appliqué on my Hasegawa destroyer.

Hey LLM! I'm sure you're right about cutting some of the deck details away... but did you simply stick the wooden decking onto the molded deck surface? Or did you chisel away every 'slat' that was molded into the plastic?

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For the linoleum deck, there were raised lines for the brass deck hold downs.  The Hasegawa instructions specifically said to scrape those off (translation in the instructions was a bit wonky), so I went ahead and did so.  That seems to be a different situation than a scribed deck where for the most part, the deck is fairly smooth with just slight indents.  I suppose if your instructions don't say anything, you can lay the wooden deck on top just to get a sense as to whether it would make the deck too high?

 

Here are the instructions for the linoleum deck - maybe your deck instructions have something similar?

 

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Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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Just pulled up the instructions for the Hasegawa Mikasa deck.  Doesn't seem to say anything, but I noticed it says the deck is 0.25mm.  My guess is given how thin it it (seems as thin as a sheet of paper), you're probably ok putting it right on top of the existing plastic deck.

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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