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thanks Mark, you should do it! 

 

On a side note - the cleats are boxwood.  This is where basswood breaks down.  If you omit the drilling for the dowel you have a chance, but the grain is just to soft for the fiddly bits.  Except for the boxwood I have purchased all my wood at two local hobby shops as I needed it.

 

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Gotcha....  I think I could make an educated guess on what would or would not work with basswood.  How do you determine your boxwood supply?  Do you just order general stock and then mill it yourself?  Or do you have a good enough idea beforehand that you order all that you will need in exact sizes?  I've only had kits and never bought any fancy stuff...still a bit fuzzy over how that process works.

 

Thanks again.

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Mark.  First off, you don't need any boxwood for the ribs, keel and other lower hull parts.  The first pieces I used were for the scroll work on the stem which was pretty far into the build.

 

I went with the Lumberyard for the boxwood.  I essentially budgeted $50, thought about what thicknesses I need and what proportion for each then ordered.  I have MOST of that wood supply left, almost barely touched it.

 

Don't worry about the boxwood right off.  Figure out a hull that interests you and start from the basics.  Plank on bulkhead is even an option.

 

Mark

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On to the quarterdeck.  First business was to get the sidewalls correct (width and height) to set the tone for the cap rail as well as planking.  BIG lesson learned here in regards to the ribs.  I should have left extra height on the ribs and did some extra measurements on target widths.  Luckily, there is a path to recovery which will be totally invisible once complete.

 

To highlight the issue the following photos is the current situation with a pencil line denoting the target width on the tops of the ribs.  This extra will be cut away down to the tops of the quarterdeck beams.  It will be noted that there essentially is no protruding ribs at the forward end of the quarterdeck.  To remedy this I removed the top layer of planking on the external hull (a partial width) and will replace with a wider plank.  I will attach pieces to this plank to replace the missing ribs and provide support to the internal wall. 

 

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Now, we are talking millimeters not meters of missing material.  If you look at the previous picture and view across to the other side you can see where I have already done the necessary work.  It is important when sanding the resultant wood down to the finished dimensions that you use a piece of sanding block that stretches across the hull to insure a totally flat surface for the cap rail.  The forward end of the new wall ends up flush in height with the floor planking of the quarterdeck then does a gradual rise up to the stern wall.

 

When complete the pictures look much different:

 

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The floor planking goes flush against this new material which will provide a finished look and clean join.  The cap rail covers all the ribs and support structures so all this work will disappear if done correctly.  Having a good foundation is essential for following up with all the finishing touches (and provides relief from stress)

 

Stay Building My Friends,

Mark

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Thanks David.

 

I am actually compensating for issues raised over 12 years ago when this build first started.  I like to think I have matured and grown enough to overcome these things.  It will be all good.  I had wanted to keep things sturdy and boy did I over engineer.  Interesting to think I am saying goodbye to the rib tops that I have been staring at for so long.

 

The evolution of Krug.

 

Mark

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Okay, not trying to puff myself up but I am pretty proud of my capstan.  I did join a couple of hobbies in the process, bringing in my pen making side business.  The capstan is quite a few pieces most of which are cylindrical - not the easiest to construct well.  So....I thought long and hard and came up with a way to do all the round pieces on the lathe, which is what it is used for.  Both capstans will be made as one single piece.

 

I first cut blocks for the main axle as well as the component that holds the bars.  Then I cut a 7mm hole through the centers of each.  A brass tube will be glued in to this hole to provide structural rigidity (the pen side of things).  I did alternate grain directions for looks, but also to allow the bar area to be cleared out eventually.  All the pieces were then glued up, with the brass tube superglued in:

 

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You can see in the drawings the targeted portions of the capstan to be turned on the lathe:

 

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Then it is a 'simple' process of turning to the desired dimensions.  Since I have that brass tube I can mount the component on a steel rod and use bushings to lock it in place.  Very strong.

 

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I drilled a hole in the base plate that the capstan fits down cleanly into.  I then cut another baseplate for the quarterdeck and cut another corresponding hole.  This plate needed to be split in half to fit around the tube and result was better than I expected:

 

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I love it when a plan comes together.  I will lathe a small cap piece to cover the hole on the top of the capstan and then cut the other components required against the axle.  Very doable.  Always happy when you come up with a plan and it actually works.

 

Stay Building My Friends,

Mark

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An interesting approach and I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

Mark
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Very nice work Mark,

 

it`s amazing to follow the look with every Progress update..

 

Nils

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Still working away when the time is available.  I continued with the lower capstan (very limited viewing) to try out some techniques and am pretty happy with the result.  I do have some build improvements for the upper one. I still have the bar partitions to construct.  The idea has popped into my head to install the bars in the upper capstan on the finished model.  The quarterdeck is a little 'empty' and I am thinking why not.  Of course, more time required to this already lengthy build but who is counting.....

 

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I had a bit of an a-ha moment when I realized I did not need to finish these things prior to getting the quarterdeck planked, in fact it would be preferred not to have them in the way.  The important item was to have the raised platform for them roughed in.  Until I glue this platform in, I could take the assembly on and off.  So, on to the (last) bit of major planking on this ship.

 

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I have settled on the lower half as the completed look I was looking for.  This was a bit of free style work.  What gap to keep is totally up to the builder.  Most that I have seen of this type is much smaller, but I wanted to have as good as possible look at the partitions and captain's cabin below (not to mention to even have a chance at the orlop deck work I did).  The plank divisions will pop when I gel coat this.

 

Still quite a few things on the list, but it is dwindling.

 

Stay Building My Friends,

Mark

 

 

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Hey there Mark.. quick question, what Gel Coat are you using ? hope I'm not asking a question that has already been asked.. ^_^

 

All The Best

 

Eamonn

 

BTW That capstan should look fantastic when you sit it permanently in position, especially with the bars in place !

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No problem Eamonn,  Seems like forever but it was back on page 2 of this build:

 

General Finishes

Gel Topcoat

Wipe on Urethane

Satin

 

Those top rails are the big builds left (forgetting the figure head for the moment).  Everything has a plan, just need to execute.  Maybe end of June.

 

Mark

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I finished the original quarterdeck planking.  Now I am moving on to the extension built on by the British.  This is complicated by needing to build the deck railing between it and the gun deck prior to the planking.

 

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The British added this so that the required capstan addition was usable.  That this wasn't originally planned for the ship will be seen with the resultant cut away cap railing and exposed section of the extension where the ladders will be.  The railing will still end at its normal place and that was a head scratcher for me for awhile before I remembered the ratlines / shrouds for the main mast occupy this space and provide the same function (perils of not thinking about a fully rigged ship!).

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Mark

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Your Druid is really coming along Mark. You must bring to Manitowoc next year. We always get modelers from MI every year and they all have a good time. You would really give a big WOW factor to the show.

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She's looking beautiful, Mark. I wonder how she sailed? She's a bit of a tub with that bluff bow. Not surprising since she was a converted mercantile ship.

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Thanks for all the looks, likes and comments!  I am starting to feel a bit of disbelief that this build is coming to a conclusion (not without continuous challenges and hurdles to overcome).

 

Forged ahead to the quarterdeck extension:

 

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LOTS of lessons learned here  (hah, hah):

1.  Always be aware of part orientation (which side is forward, which is back).  This is particularly true when cutting mortises for rail columns.  Luckily not a huge issue since the aft side is hidden on the deck beam.

2.  Always be aware of whether or not your measurements include or not include the floor planking.  That can sure ruin a lot of hand carved rail columns if they are cut too short. 

 

Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.  I was able to work through my Mark made issues and eventually persevere.

 

When I had originally completed the quarterdeck extension I planked the whole section solid.  Standing back and looking at the result the little voice in my head (cause of so much additional work) clearly stated it just didn't go with the rest of the build and had to be modified.  I went back and cut the view ports in.  It does look a lot better.

 

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The capstan is still entirely removable. 

 

I did think of a issue to think through though:

I have decided to add the capstan bars to the capstan on the quarterdeck.  The radius of the bars is somewhat evident and extends almost to the ships wheel.  The problem is the binnacle.  Its location puts it right in the middle of the capstan bar space.  I am thinking that the binnacle was removable when required.  Looking at the Hahn photos he did not include a binnacle (nor is one shown on the plans).  I am starting to think to add tie down points for the binnacle but not include the actual one.  Any thoughts?

 

Stay Building My Friends,

mark

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Mark,

Binnacles were removable.  I think that part of the "clear for action" included removing it.  You wouldn't want your navigation equipment shot up.

Mark
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Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Well, that certainly didn't take long....Makes total sense. 

 

The view I have is a clean build / model.  I think the capstan bars provide that cleaner view (plus providing a bigger visual entity) than omitting and adding the binnacle instead.  Plus everyone recognizes the capstan bars so I think I have talked myself into my decision.

 

Mark

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Taking a bit of a side trip to scope out the case for this model / monster / piece of art.  I am contracting for a seamless plexiglass cover so this is necessary to define the dimensions

 

If you expand the pics you should see my sketches much better.  First off was defining the necessary base:

 

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The total dimension was 35" by 14".  Pictured is the bottom base, the molding against the plexiglass, the plexiglass and finally the platform on which the stand will be mounted.  The platform will have a piece of black fabric covering it.  The base and molding will be stained oak.

 

The big question comes to the height of the case.  If I went with the traditional approach the following picture would be all that was necessary, with a resultant height of 13":

 

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However......given all the cut outs my wife suggested maybe an angle would work better such as:

 

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This could add as much as 7" to the height (20" total).  This is more extreme than being mounted on a faux launch way.  The posts holding the ship up will be acrylic and I will cast specific clear resin clamps for it (another post).  I just wonder if anyone has any thoughts on this approach.

 

Stay Building My Friends,

Mark

 

 

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Hi Mark.

A very nice build with some excellent details. ... No lots of excellent details.

 

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I think the Faux Slip-way's always look great. you could even put in a 'mirrored base' to show cut-away details more easily.. should look amazing whichever way you go Mark !

 

Stay Well

 

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Hi Mark,

 

Interesting choices for your display. I'm also going with a seamless case. As for angle, while I like the idea of a slipway to provide some angle, my gut is telling me that anything more extreme would look a little odd. It would certainly be unique though! As they say, "Catain's Choice", (with the Admiral's permission). ;)

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Thanks for all the thoughts. I have zeroed in on a 14 degree angle.

 

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This is NOT a slip way angle, but more extreme.  It does show that a case height of 16.5" is sufficient.  In the future it would be relatively easy to lower the angle (even to level) and the case would still fit.  I will have two clear acrylic posts supporting the hull with two slimmer rods providing lateral movement support.

 

My goal is to have much easier access to viewing the deck cut-aways (or even having people notice that they are there).  There is no focused ship modeling audience in these parts so I am looking at this as displaying a piece of 'art' for most people.  Well, the options stay open but I have a plan and can get this cover ordered. 

 

Internal volume to be covered:

Height:  16.5"

Length:  31"

Width:  10.5"

 

The total base will cover:

Length:  34"

Width:  14"

 

Not too small but manageable.  I have a space in the family room that will accept this size so that is a good thing.  Now I can get back to that capstan.

 

Stay Building My Friends,

Mark

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So with the case somewhat settled I have moved back to the quarterdeck.  The capstan sat unfinished so this evening I sat down to right this situation.  The only thing left is to string the bars once everything settles and dries.

 

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The lower bars will remain off.  It was even tighter down on the gun deck.  The front faux panel separating the cabins would have to been taken down to give sufficient space for its use.  I did have a good laugh when I was thinking how I could add the bar spacers and insure the bars still came out at the correct angles.   The answer to affix the bars first, then the spacers is obvious but sometimes the obvious isn't so obvious.

 

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Up next are the side railings.....

 

Stay Building my Friends,

Mark

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Not too much to say but angles, angles, angles!  After a whole lot of time measuring, cutting, sanding and thinking I am finally on top of one of the quarterdeck side rails.  Lot of effort into pieces that will pretty much visually disappear if done right.  Unfortunate in one respect, but it is what it is.

 

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I am going to take a break for a day before hitting up the second one.

 

Stay Building my Friends,

Mark

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