HIPEXEC Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share #871 Posted August 3, 2014 Yes...you're correct and I'm working on a solution for that. I've tried several methods and didn't like the results. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted August 3, 2014 Share #872 Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) I settled on two ways to skin the cat. First was to solder them on. I used a micro torch and paste solder. The other way was epoxy. If you are blackening your cannon with blacken it, or similar, you have to use the solder. If you are painting the canon, you can use the epoxy and cover it. Since these do not take any stress (once you have the line through them, it does not take a great deal of holding power. I have attached a photo of my starboard forward cannon set showing both the long gun and the two carronades. Edited August 3, 2014 by robnbill HIPEXEC and Fright 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 3, 2014 Share #873 Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Maybe an option is to drill a little hole at the cascabel and glue an eyebolt in it and paint it black ? That's what I want to do with the cannons of the Aggy where the breech rope goes true it.. Edited August 3, 2014 by Sjors augie and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 3, 2014 Share #874 Posted August 3, 2014 I'm with Sjors on the drilling for an eyebolt. HIPEXEC and Sjors 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #875 Posted August 4, 2014 I'll experiment with the drilling of a small hole. I'm not painting the cannons...they'll stay brass. The whole ship is natural with no paint except for the blackened chimney. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #876 Posted August 4, 2014 I finished the eyebolts ahead of my original schedule since my fat, shaky fingers got more nimble as time went by. Now I have to design the tackle with blocks and all since Constructo just says just ties knots . I'll be plagerizing from all your postings. Aussie048 and Sjors 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #877 Posted August 4, 2014 By the way, I forgot to mention I used heavy doses of CA for the glue. Fumes got thick, but it holds like crazy. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted August 4, 2014 Share #878 Posted August 4, 2014 Mamoli also only included the line for the breeching lines. Just draped them over the ends of the cannons. So I ordered all the blocks and line I needed to rig them from Chuck. Drilling the blocks is a great idea. Your ship is looking great. Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #879 Posted August 4, 2014 Before I start rigging guns or anything, I built this line dispenser. When I rigged my first ship, I had several rats nests and birds nests of tangled line and that was only a two masted schooner. robnbill, src, Blue Ensign and 7 others 10 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #880 Posted August 4, 2014 I found the remnants of the bird's nest/ rat's nest from my first ship model. Sjors and augie 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted August 5, 2014 Share #881 Posted August 5, 2014 Rich, that looks like my hair back in the 80's after a Metalica concert! Sam dgbot, Sjors, HIPEXEC and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted August 5, 2014 Share #882 Posted August 5, 2014 hmmm...String Theory? augie, Fright and HIPEXEC 3 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share #883 Posted August 5, 2014 While I ponder how to rig my guns....I'm closing the shipyard and going fishing in MInnesota. See you all in a week. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 5, 2014 Share #884 Posted August 5, 2014 May you catch many Walleye and all the large mouth bass you can eat. Nothing like walleye on a grill. Speaking from childhood memories with dad. David B HIPEXEC 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share #885 Posted August 5, 2014 I just glued together a mock gunport so I can rig the guns when I get the blocks I just had to order. Constructo doesn't call for blocks on their guns only knots. That's not good enough for me, so I ordered 100 2mm single hole blocks (I only need 88 but I had to order round lots.) So, I might as well fish while I wait for the blocks. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 5, 2014 Share #886 Posted August 5, 2014 Tight lines on the fishing! That's a good way to rig the guns ---- beats doing it on deck. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share #887 Posted August 5, 2014 With my fat and shaky fingers, there's no way I can rig them in place. I did that on my first build, but it only had two guns. augie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 5, 2014 Share #888 Posted August 5, 2014 Rich, you never have enough blocks. They either get lost or go flying away etc. David B HIPEXEC 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted August 5, 2014 Share #889 Posted August 5, 2014 I just glued together a mock gunport so I can rig the guns when I get the blocks I just had to order. Constructo doesn't call for blocks on their guns only knots. That's not good enough for me, so I ordered 100 2mm single hole blocks (I only need 88 but I had to order round lots.) So, I might as well fish while I wait for the blocks. Hey Rich, Based upon the AOS, I used a combination of double and single blocks to rig the canon. The line would start on a double (attached to a ring on the bulkhead), go to the single mounted on the cannon, back to the double then coiled the remainder on the deck. I calculated with 2 bow chasers I needed 86 single and 86 doubles. Each carronade had two sets of tackle on each side plus the breeching line. The Bow Chasers had one set of tackle each side plus one set attached from the stern to a deck ring near the mast. Of course they too had the breeching cables. Bill HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share #890 Posted August 6, 2014 I've been working on this gun rigging prototype for two days now and I think this about as good as I can create. I can never duplicate Bill's gun rigging. I tried and failed miserably. One thing I know...my rig is much better than Constructo's. Aussie048, CaptainSteve, src and 8 others 11 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnbill Posted August 6, 2014 Share #891 Posted August 6, 2014 It is going to look fantastic Rich. Bill HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted August 6, 2014 Share #892 Posted August 6, 2014 Rich, I agree looks good. I saw somewhere recommended that mat artist acrylic was good for the fuzzies (Auguie? Realworkingsailor?) Sam HIPEXEC 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 6, 2014 Share #893 Posted August 6, 2014 I like it. Yes, PVA and water or matte clear acrylic for those lines. Only comment is that the breeching rope needs to be a bit longer or the gun won't slide back on recoil. HIPEXEC and Karleop 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #894 Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks for the comments and suggestions. Fishing in Minnesota was great. My best was a ten pound Northern Pike! augie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #895 Posted August 13, 2014 Ten pound Northern Pike! augie, trippwj, src and 3 others 6 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #896 Posted August 13, 2014 It has been years since I was in Minn. Northerns, Walleye, and Large Mouth Bass. I bet that fish gave you a good fight. But you enjoyed yourself and had a great meal. Pan fried with flour or grilled with lemon and butter? David B HIPEXEC 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share #897 Posted August 14, 2014 All of the above! Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share #898 Posted August 15, 2014 Now that the fishing gear is put away...back to rigging the guns. Here's my gun rigging factory. At this rate I'll be rigging guns for a month. I'll probably do it quicker since I always get better and faster with each new piece. rafine, clearway, Aussie048 and 5 others 8 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 15, 2014 Share #899 Posted August 15, 2014 Keep this up and you will be able to open up your own shop. Rich's Gun Works. Cannons while you wait. David B HIPEXEC 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastie96 Posted August 15, 2014 Share #900 Posted August 15, 2014 Rich I am just starting the same build (connie by constructo). I am following your build log with interest, as it looks as though you have done a beautiful job with yours. Hope mine turns out half as good!! Can you plkease tell me how you went about shaping and filing the area of the first 2 bulkheads in order to accept the below decks gun wall> I have already have had to cut a new piece as I broke mine trying to fit it into the existing slots. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Coastie96 HIPEXEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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