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I have done one 3D drawing with help from a member here of a cannon barrel based on English design circa 1690.   The results were excellent and the parts that resulted were cheap.

A project to consider:

1. I stink at 3D 

2. I am somewhat proficient at 2D

3. I have Caruana's book on RN ordnance which has drawings and specs for a few hundred year range

4. I would be happy to draw and provide 2D drawings of all barrel patterns and lengths up to and including the Blomefield pattern in four views at full scale. 

5. I would like to work with someone who is willing to spend the time to convert these to 3D in STL or similar format that can be used by a 3D printer.

6. These drawings could then be posted as a collated collection, hopefully in the articles database here at MSW for all members to use to get barrels printed that are era and pattern specific, accurate, and inexpensive.

Please PM me if interested in working together on this.

Thanks!!!

Allan

 

 

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12 hours ago, druxey said:

A very nice offer, Allan. 

Thanks Druxey

As with most, if not all, members here, I have gained so much knowledge from others, including you, this seems like it might be a useful way to say thanks.  I truly hope someone takes me up on this opportunity.   

Allan

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I made a start on the barrel and mouldings of the 1786 canon marine (Manson) ordnance, but wasn't sure how to correctly/best practice apply the rimbases and trunnions (in software, not conceptually from the pattern) so put the project on a back burner.

My software is a choice of Blender (which I am not comfortable with, though seems easy to use) or FreeCAD (which is much more opaque, but for some reason I found easier to use to sketch the dimensioned drawing and produce a closed solid which behaved well in the slicer (sans rimbases and trunnion, as noted above).

 

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The below is the one that I have had made so far.   Note that the trunnions for this particular time period are tapered.

Barrel 111.3mf

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I don't have much spare time, but if it's in no hurry, I'd be happy to help you out with the 3D designs. Is sounds like a fun and commendable project. I used to work as an artist/designer at a factory running CNC's, so it's fairly easy for me to create most things in 3D. However, I don't have any experience with recent year's development of 3D printers, but I gather the principles are the same (and advantageous, since one don't have to consider areas the tool cannot reach).
How many cannon designs are we talking about?

 

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Thanks Montaigne.  There are a couple others that have expressed interest in helping as well.  Hopefully we can build a little team and get some great things made for the members.  Please PM with your contact information and will I forward the beginnings that I already have when I get back home this weekend.

THANKS AGAIN

Allan

 

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34 minutes ago, allanyed said:

There are a couple others that have expressed interest in helping as well.  Hopefully we can build a little team and get some great things made for the members.

Good to hear others have expressed interest; the idea of a little team doing this sounds like fun! I'll PM you my email for the files. Cheers

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Hi Allan

 

Just found this page, really interesting.

 

https://www.arc.id.au/ArmstrongPattern.html

 

I will be using it to find the shape for an 18th C  6 pounder 

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

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Hi Tim,

What ship/era/nationality is this for?

If the RN, keep in mind that there were at least three Armstrong patterns in the 18th century starting about 1720 with redesigns in 1742 and 1760.  The Blomefield pattern gun came into use about 1787 so the design you choose may be somewhat dependent on when in the 18th century you are aiming for.   

Allan

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, allanyed said:

What ship/era/nationality is this for?

 

Hi Allan to answer your questions 
ship : HM Cutter Rattlesnake
date 1777

British Royal Navy

 

Thanks for the heads up on the dates

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

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27 minutes ago, oakheart said:

ship : HM Cutter Rattlesnake
date 1777

Most likely the 1760 Armstrong pattern as in your earlier link.

Allan

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On 1/30/2023 at 12:34 PM, allanyed said:

Hi Allanyed - I'm happy to help with the item below,  feel free to send some drawings over and I can give it a shot. 

" 5. I would like to work with someone who is willing to spend the time to convert these to 3D in STL or similar format that can be used by a 3D printer."

 

 

 

 

 

My Current Builds:

The USS Maine - 1/72 3D printed Armored Cruiser (1889) USS OlympiaUSS TexasUSS New York, HSwMS TapperhetenCerbere 

 

Ships I am currently designing or have completed in Fusion 360:

German: SMS ScharnhorstSMS Kaiser Sweden: Svea, Gota, & Thule (both early and later versions), Flygia

France: French battleship Charles MartelDupuy de Lôme, Faucon (aviso), United States: USS Katahdin (1894) Ram ship, USS Monteray USS Oregon Japan: Mikasa, Fuso Russia: Izumrud, Novgorod Spain: Pelayo Great Britian: Turbinia (1894) - First ship with Steam TurbineHMS Edinburgh (1882) DenmarkTordenskjold

 

Ships I intend on designing & building in the future:

French JauréguiberryMassena Bouvet United StatesUSS Virginia USS Brooklyn, USS Minneapolis USS Ericsson
Russian:  Rossiya Peresvet Bayan SlavaTsesarevich 
BrazilRiachuelo SpainEmparador Carlos V


 

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As an update, there are now several folks that have offered help in converting 2D to 3D.   2D drawings of 9 and 12 pounder Blomefields in various lengths have been forwarded to them for conversion to 3D.  Will continue to update as we move along.  Hopefully the full set will wind up covering a long period of time and sizes and benefit scratch and kit builders alike in using appropriate cannon for at least English ships and cover 150 years or more.  If anyone has 2D drawings (based on contemporary information,) of French, Dutch, Spanish or other nationalities, these can be added to the mix as well.   

 

Allan

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PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series.   Click on http://trafalgar.tv   There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time.  THANK YOU

 

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Allan, I might have time as well. The barrels are quick and easy in Fusion 360, the fiddly bit is the decor on top.

 

This is where it would be good to have a repository somewhere, for the drawings and .stl's.

Current builds:

1) HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/

 

2) Bluenose II 1:100 (Billing) - paused, not in the mood

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30694-billing-bluenose-ii-1100-no600-by-kevin-the-lubber/

 

3) Cutty Sark 1:96 Revell

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196

 

Stash:

Revell Cutty Sark 1/96 (a spare for later)

Revell Beagle 1/96 (unlikely to ever get built!)

Revell Kearsage 1/96 (can't wait to get started on this)

Revell Constitution 1/96

 

If at first you don't succeed, buy some more tools.

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