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Santa Maria by Gusar - FINISHED - 1/100 - built as a nao


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Hi everyone, I started scratch build of a Columbus Santa Maria according to an Anatomy of the ship book by Xavier Pastor. It seamed to me it would not be a too difficult job since I have a book and just need to follow it, but there was equally time spent on thinking of how to build something or deciding in what way to build since plans have decent amount of inaccuracies and lack of details. IMG_20201228_140506.thumb.jpg.afa9f79b2cdab69e61152a8d7037073c.jpgIMG_20201227_173114.thumb.jpg.82146a31d8a33e9451e8bf7b641ea01d.jpg

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Gusar,

 

    Please define 'inaccuracies'.  Since there is no record of the details of the Santa Maria, there is alot of leeway in the building process. 

 

    The build looks good so far.  What other builds have you done?

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop

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Hi Chuck,

I will list some of inaccuracies or mistakes I found. 20231006_132728.thumb.jpg.62bc97aa2673a2712d1e1bbaf067c7d8.jpg

When you compare body plan with sheer and half-breadth plan and measure everything this what you get. This is in milimeters. I took that sheer and half-breadth plan are more accurate.

 

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One ladder not two.

 

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Had to add the this for main yard hoisting.

 

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Cleats are on wrong places, found out later when started putting the shrouds

 

 

 

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Absolutely no cleats for fastening all the ropes, also lack of better explanation of how forecastle is constructed.

 

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Spritsail is too large, spritsail on the previous picture is better

 

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This framing is not in an alignment with other plans, so much correction is need if you want to make admiralty model or just to match visible frames with other plans.

There are some other mistakes I can't remember now, for example anchor is too big for the scale so adjustments are needed. Much care is to be taken studying plans before starting the build. I don't have so much experience so i didn't see all of this in advance. 

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On 10/5/2023 at 7:21 PM, Chuck Seiler said:

Gusar,

 

    Please define 'inaccuracies'.  Since there is no record of the details of the Santa Maria, there is alot of leeway in the building process. 

 

    The build looks good so far.  What other builds have you done?

I did two Adriatic Trabaccolo, and one fishing boat.

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That's  some very nice work, I only wish.

    :cheers:

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:         The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,   Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA  Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar  The King Of the Mississippi  Artesania Latina  1:80 

 

 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models :)

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6 hours ago, Gusar said:

Much care is to be taken studying plans before starting the build. I don't have so much experience so i didn't see all of this in advance. 

I see, the inaccuracies are within the plan itself.

 

Very true.  It is very frustrating when you have what appears to be a good set of plans, but AFTER you start working on it you find the various parts of the plan are not reconciled with each other.  I guess learning that, and learning what things you need to verify early on are part of the 'gaining experience' process.

 

Looking good so far.

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mis spelling

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop

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Very impressive work. I've tried a couple of models built on a plug and always found difficulty in getting the two halves exactly the same. You seem to have succeeded admirably. And you've done a superb job on the (difficult) rounded stern. Very precise work.

 

Steven

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10 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

Very impressive work. I've tried a couple of models built on a plug and always found difficulty in getting the two halves exactly the same. You seem to have succeeded admirably. And you've done a superb job on the (difficult) rounded stern. Very precise work.

 

Steven

Two halves were nothing comparing to rounded stern :) it could have been better, but next time it will be.

Thank you all for kind words here is continuation of the work.

 

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I’ve never had much interest in the Columbus ships; probably a result of having seen too many really bad replicas and models.  You, however, have produced a stunning model that in my opinion nicely captures the essence of what a late Fifteenth Century Nao might have looked like.

 

Your hull construction technique is unique and innovative

 

Well done!

 

Roger

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Very nice.  What wood are you using for planking and doors, etc?

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop

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16 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

I’ve never had much interest in the Columbus ships; probably a result of having seen too many really bad replicas and models.  You, however, have produced a stunning model that in my opinion nicely captures the essence of what a late Fifteenth Century Nao might have looked like.

 

Your hull construction technique is unique and innovative

 

Well done!

 

Roger

Hi Roger,

I was really thinking a lot about how to capture this essence as you said. Looking at many contemporary pictures to try decide which colour to go for. The wood I use is pear stained with two colours dark walnut and redish walnut. First I would put redish one and then quickly applied dark one so wood can soak bit of both. That is why colour is not uniform you will see more on later pictures. 

Hull construction method I took from russian master Michael Bezverhny.

 

 

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Gusar

Just tuned in and I admire your model a lot.   Did the Spanish use belaying pins in the 15th century?  They are shown in your fifth row of photos in post #20.  The British did not use them until well into the 18th century so I am curious about this  as I am studying a 17th century Spanish vessel at this time and cannot find information based on contemporary sources that indicate they were used,   

Thanks

Allan

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On 11/2/2023 at 1:12 AM, allanyed said:

Gusar

Just tuned in and I admire your model a lot.   Did the Spanish use belaying pins in the 15th century?  They are shown in your fifth row of photos in post #20.  The British did not use them until well into the 18th century so I am curious about this  as I am studying a 17th century Spanish vessel at this time and cannot find information based on contemporary sources that indicate they were used,   

Thanks

Allan

Hi Allan,

 

I am not sure if Spanish used belaying pins in the 15.ct. In the book there are no pins drawn in Santa Maria plans only in Pinta plans. Also I saw on the SM replica in Palos de frontera there are belaying pins so I put them. I also tried to find out about this question long while ago, I think I found somewhere that the use of pins started in Mediterranean first. Need to check again.  Screenshot2023-11-18215338.png.9b067cae3e1fd5f268848f1138865dc9.pngScreenshot2023-11-18215923.png.ae03a20edac756e41da70c2f843a65ec.png

I have books about Spanish galleons in the 17.century if you need some help with your study I can check them. 

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