Pygothian Posted September 24, 2013 Share #1 Posted September 24, 2013 Hi guys, I've been doing a lot do research and from the helpful advice from everyone here I narrowed it down to the Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways. Today however I've discovered the MS Syren is discounted $100 and now less than the AVS. I see a lot of logs on the Syren, and she is a beautiful ship. Would it be worth the risk going for a bigger better ship as it is cheaper than the initial choice as the AVS isn't on sale. I'm confused. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 24, 2013 Share #2 Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Either would be a good choice, regardless of price. Whith the Syren, though, you also have the added bonus of the kit designer to help you as well as the logs. Andy Edited September 24, 2013 by realworkingsailor trippwj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24, 2013 Share #3 Posted September 24, 2013 Go for it, at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted September 24, 2013 Share #4 Posted September 24, 2013 With the labor cost allocation of the build at $0.20 / hour, cost should not be the deciding factor. You'd probably learn a lot more with Syren. Maury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted September 24, 2013 Share #5 Posted September 24, 2013 Current price for AVS seems high, I can't remember what I paid 2 years ago, but Model Expo constantly has sales, you can even ask if they'll price break, you never know but they have excellent cust service and a history of working well with MSW. Either kit is nice, Syren obviously more challenging and will take longer to build. The AVS is a ficticious ship based opon the design of that era where the Syren has actual history. I preferred ficticious AVS myself, so I could name it after my daughter and didn't have the pressure to maintain historical accuracy Ken trippwj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted September 24, 2013 Share #6 Posted September 24, 2013 I'm not familiar with the AVS, but I do have the Syren. Bought it and the MS Constitution as my first 2 wooden ship builds. The designer of the Syren, Chuck Passaro, runs this site (MSW) and can be asked for help and questions easily. He usually keeps his eyes on Syren build logs so you'll have his help. The Syren instructions are great and invaluable to a newbie wooden ship builder like me. He walks you through the entire build and includes lots of pics, including the rigging. Just my 10 cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted September 24, 2013 Share #7 Posted September 24, 2013 If it's your first build I'd vote for the AVS. It is still a challenge but from what I've seen of the Syren it is a lesser one and still makes up into a really nice model. Nothing could be more discouraging than having to give up on construction when it is beyond your skills and goes wrong. That said the Syren is a stunning model and the instructions are very good. I think you can download these for free, have a read and decide if you are up for it. It is extraordinary that it is cheaper than the AVS. I guess I'd be confused too! None of the above probably helps with your decision... Cheers Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygothian Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted September 25, 2013 Think I will go with the Syren, I just hope I don't bight off more than I can chew, however the build logs here, the 130 page manual and having Chuck here makes it worth the risk it won't get put in the closet collecting dust. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted September 25, 2013 Share #9 Posted September 25, 2013 Best of luck with Syren - it is a great ship and looks like a great model. I'm sure you'll be happy with the choice and there are plenty here to support it. Please post a log. Cheers Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygothian Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted September 26, 2013 as you are a fellow Australian, then I strongly suggest you look at the modellers shipyard kits from N.S.W . Their small colonial schooner is an excellent choice for a beginner and it comes with a step by step instructional dvd. Hi Brian, I was going to get the starter kit from modellers shipyard - either the Mermaid or Norfolk as I liked the idea of the DVD of the build, plus the 5 DVDs on the basics. I then discovered the armed virginia sloop, many logs plus the Practicum which looked like a great starting kit, and now I have the opportunity to get the Syren for $199 with 130 page manual, I've got many PDF files on basics, plus everyone here, and some amazing logs, so I've decided to go with the Syren. I'll keep you updated and start a log once it arrives, and after I get married in a few weeks! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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