TBlack Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share #151 Posted October 18, 2013 Boat deck secured and support stanchions in place. Some more photos: In the bow shot you'll notice the second stanchion on the right needs fixing. My pipe fitters took care of that this morning as you can see in the subsequent photos. Also, the chief of the boat is in charge of painting that panel on the pilot house door. Tom realworkingsailor, mtaylor, bhermann and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 18, 2013 Share #152 Posted October 18, 2013 Looking good, Tom! She's starting look as though you're almost there. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 18, 2013 Share #153 Posted October 18, 2013 superb looking progress Tom........the windows, stanchions and doors look fantastic! she's really shaping up to be a fine looking vessel! I applaud your work, good sir! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 18, 2013 Share #154 Posted October 18, 2013 She's coming along nicely. You should be happy with her. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #155 Posted October 19, 2013 Thanks guys for the support and encouragement. My next task is to come up with a moulding around the top of the pilot house (not the one around the edge of the roof; that's easy) that looks like the original: avsjerome2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 19, 2013 Share #156 Posted October 19, 2013 That block moulding looks tricky, Tom. How about a piece of wood cut almost through to form the blocks (cut on your table saw with a spacer jig). If there's only a very thin backing left it should curve around the wheelhouse nicely. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 19, 2013 Share #157 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Tom, Isn’t it fun to look at the pictures and say, “Oh, blank, how do I do that”? Seem like I do it all the time. John's idea sounds good to me. Bob Edited October 19, 2013 by Cap'n'Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 19, 2013 Share #158 Posted October 19, 2013 Here, check this out: http://grandtline.com/products/arch/ho/ho_scale_architectural_trim.html Down a bit, they offer strips of dentils. I'm assuming that's what's confounding you? (It's also available in 1:48) Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted October 19, 2013 Share #159 Posted October 19, 2013 HI Tom, Very nice build looks great very impressive Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #160 Posted October 19, 2013 Andy, thanks for the link. I did check it out and it's a little hard to tell the dimensions of the "blocks" from the picture. I'm thinking of going with John's suggestion which is doable. The problem I'm facing is the size of the cuts. If you look at the above picture, the cuts are about as wide as the mullion in the pilot house window. That translates to a cut of .5 mm on the model. I have a Preac saw, a Rolls Royce in its day, but Charlie Files, the creator, died a few years back and that was the end of the company and its supplies. I own a blade for the saw with a .020 thickness, that's going to be on the wide side. Charlie used to make available a blade with a .010 thickness, and I haven't been able to find anyone who sells the thinner blade since Charlie's passing. So I'm stuck with the .020 cut. So there it is. Crackers, I'm no good at lettering. I thought what I would do is just make a copy of the sign on my computer printer to size, cut it out and paste it onto a backing. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 19, 2013 Share #161 Posted October 19, 2013 Well.. according to the specs, that strip it 2" long... I counted 53 blocks and spaces along the strip, comes out to dentils that are roughly 0.030" (probably smaller due to the slight excess of the ends, so you're probably closer to 0.025") If it was me, they're really not that expensive, I'd order a set and see what you think in person. Otherwise you could be stuck doing a royal PITA job... Andy avsjerome2003 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #162 Posted October 19, 2013 Andy, Thanks for doing the math. I'll give them a try. Tom realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 20, 2013 Share #163 Posted October 20, 2013 Tom, You say the cut you want is 1/2 mm or .019685”, so you are correct your .020” saw is too wide by .000315”. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted October 20, 2013 Share #164 Posted October 20, 2013 saw is too wide by .000315”. OMG 3 ten thousands of an inch!! whatever happened to Accuracy with these scratch builders? Michael mtaylor and captainbob 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #165 Posted October 20, 2013 Okay, okay, you guys, I get it, sheesh! A practice run with the saw shows a kerf of .5 mm which should be just fine. But yesterday I sprung for Andy's dentils. So I'm committed, and we're going to wait to see how they look first. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share #166 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) While I wait for the dentils to arrive from CA, I'm turning my attention to the stack. The photo shows the base that I shaped on the lathe. I have a 5/8" brass tube that should serve nicely as a stack. I'm assuming that the holes you see in the photo at the base are, in fact, holes and not rivets. Tom Edited October 23, 2013 by TBlack popeye the sailor, mtaylor and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 23, 2013 Share #167 Posted October 23, 2013 They certainly look like vent holes to me, Tom. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 23, 2013 Share #168 Posted October 23, 2013 I'm thinking so too... since you don't see any cowl vents for air intake for the boilers. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 23, 2013 Share #169 Posted October 23, 2013 Years ago I planned to build a large model of a western river steamboat with a working steam engine. Ah the dreams we have. Anyway. On river steamboats the stack goes through a large hole in the deck so the hot stack does not touch the wood. The large sheet metal ring with the sloping top keeps the rain and other water out of the large hole. The holes in the ring prevent heat buildup. Usually instead of vent holes there is a gap between the ring and the sloped top which extends a few inches past the ring as you can see at the far left of the picture. The intake to the boiler is near the firebox where the stoker works. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share #170 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys, for the validation. Damn this is a smart group! Tom PS. I'm just looking at the time Andy posted his response. Andy, do you ever get to sleep? Edited October 23, 2013 by TBlack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 23, 2013 Share #171 Posted October 23, 2013 I'm thinking so too... since you don't see any cowl vents for air intake for the boilers. Andy I was thinking of river boats that had large doors, usualy open, where the boilers were located, but on a boat like this without those doors this heat shield could also be used as the intake for the boiler. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 23, 2013 Share #172 Posted October 23, 2013 PS. I'm just looking at the time Andy posted his response. Andy, do you ever get to sleep? On occasion I have been known to pass out.. Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share #173 Posted October 23, 2013 Andy, Actually there is a cowl vent, just barely visible. Back in entry 30, page 2, of this log we had a brief discussion of it. At the time I thought it was a smoke stack for a stove in the salon. Since then, I've discovered this photo which makes me think it is a cowl vent which is what you all were trying to convince me of in the first place. It's just visible behind the pilot house roof. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 23, 2013 Share #174 Posted October 23, 2013 Yeah.. I'd call that a cowl vent.... Too bad we can't get these old-time photographers to take better photos these days.. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share #175 Posted November 12, 2013 I decided to take Andy's suggestion and buy some pre-cast dentils from an outfit in Calif. rather than try to make my own. They are made of styrene and come in 2" strips. They're close enough, and I certainly can't make anything smaller. They needed some adjustment along the top, but married to a single bead moulding along the bottom, and the whole assembly looks OK. It's not an exact replica of the prototype, but I can't get that detailed with the tools I have. To make the single bead molding, I cut the profile in a razor blade secured to the tool post of my lathe, using both the large Dremel cut-off wheel and the small Dremel cut-off wheel. The thickness of the larger wheel is just the right width for the moulding (2mm), and the thinner wheel is as small as I can get to cut the bead. It's the profile on the right. Sorry for the bluriness. So the final product still needs to be smoothed out where the joints occur and all painted. Sorry for the lack of close-ups, but my camera doesn't do it very well. popeye the sailor, realworkingsailor, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 12, 2013 Share #176 Posted November 12, 2013 That's looking good, Tom. A little cleaning of the joints and you've got it licked! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 12, 2013 Share #177 Posted November 12, 2013 Tom, great stuff the little details are what make a great model fantastic. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted November 12, 2013 Share #178 Posted November 12, 2013 That's really coming along. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted November 12, 2013 Share #179 Posted November 12, 2013 I'm guessing you're glad you went with the prefab strips now, right? Looks great, even without the close ups Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share #180 Posted November 12, 2013 Andy, you have never failed me! Tom realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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