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I took a walk around the village following 2 days of very severe weather, torrential rain for most of yeaterday and about 20 minutes of seriously big hailstones:  

 

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and a bit of localised damage they did to my garden box:

 

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A few houses and businesses suffered flooding but today it seems that there was no really serious damage. Apparently, we made the national news so maybe Ferit and Ilhan up in Istanbul saw it but I don't watch TV very much at all so didn't.

 

Oh yeah, I did a bit of planking as well.   :)  

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Yesterday, we had what in England is refered to as a Bank Holiday. I continued on the upstairs study ... insulating a wall (one more to go) The images aren't very well focused, to put it mildly ..

First I had to make the frame from metalstud profile, then the insulation, followed by a damp-resistant foil, followed by plasterboard ... good half a day's work

 

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Next ... the other outside wall, but first some more garden chores ...

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Looks like a good job on the insulation there Carl.

 

Thanks for all the comments and likes regarding the table. It is really just a place to keep her paints, and papers. This morning when we sat at the dining room table and I showed her the way to mix green as she put a drop of blue into the yellow in the mixing cup she exclaimed Wow! it was so wonderful to watch her use the brush to lay down some colour. If you give a child the best quality materials to work with you get a positive reaction and I was amazed at her attention span while we painted together. Watching the way she treated the good quality brush and how it formed a point and her control of laying down a broad stroke or a fine one was such a joy.

 

Michael

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Okay this started in 2008, but it ended today. Or maybe it just got started. Maybe we need a topic called "RANT".

 

As I am wont to do, after a LOT of research I bought a computer program in '08 called Cook'n from a company called DVO Enterprises Inc. It's a recipe program. Pretty good, albeit slow as sin. There has been 1 upgrade per year costing $50 each. Make that, in 8 years I've spent $430 on their app. For the last 3 versions, you could install their app on 2 computers and an unlimited number of smart devices including iPads. Add a recipe on any one of those and it synchronized with their "cloud" and copied down to your other systems.

 

On 4-25 I got an email telling me that on May 1, they would be charging $15 a month for the cloud service. Hmmm... I make that to be $1440 over the next 8 years, not $430. For an app I already paid for?! Also, you could find recipes on the internet and it would convert them and add them to our database of recipes. Support was free.

 

Additionally, I was told that if I didn't want to pay the monthly subscription I could still use the app, but sync'ing would no longer work. AND, you can only download 5 internet recipe's a day, AND support is not free for non-premium subscribers. No mention of the cost of support for those who choose not to subscribe. Did I mention I already paid $430?

 

So, today I start the app and I get a message telling me that if I want to use the app I must subscribe to their service for $15 a month. I'm asked if I want to create an account or log into one I already have. Yes or No? I don't want to pay $15 a month so I say no and the app closes. I start the app again and this time I say yes I want to use an account I already (had). I enter my user id and password and my recipes are GO AWAY!  HA! I restore the recipes from a backup their app creates automatically each time you close it. Start the app again and the recipes go away again!

 

I had 168 recipes from my Grand Mother. She's been gone for 12 years now. Not to mention those from my family, my wifes family and the recipes my wife and I invented! Over 600 recipes. I was able to restore from a backup AFTER disabling the internet and started printing 600 plus pages!!!

 

Their app is for sale on Amazon.com for $80. No mention of the new pricing structure. LOTS of negative reviews of late. Including my own. They have a facebook, linkedin, twitter and pinterest site. People are complaining big time. Including myself. The complaints are removed and we are blocked from posting again.

 

GOOD NEWS! When you open the app, there is a "Home page" that has links to web recipes. Someone hacked their system and made one of the links to a porn site. Hmmm. $15 a month you say? Hmmm... reconsidering  the value...

 

There are NO Terms of Service to agree to before or during the installation and NONE on their web site.

 

So far I have complained to the BBB, ftc.gov/consumer and ripoffreport.com. Next I aim to notify the attorney's general in both Utah - their home base - and California - mine.

 

If anyone else has any ideas on how to get some attention please let me know.

 

TODAY I registered a new domain. www.cooknsucks.com. It's not up yet, I'm building a blog site where people can complain without their posts being deleted. Give me a few days:)

 

In the email they sent notifying us that we had one week they actually had the audacity to say that based on government research the average American spends X $ on food, but by using their menu planner...etc. you could save $3000 a year! This is justification? They claim that in the last month they had 651 million writes and 580 million reads to their cloud and they are charged for each write and read, therefor they can no longer afford the cloud storage under the current pricing structure. I'm a retired Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer with 29 years of experience. I've never heard of a web host charging by the write and read to a physical hard drive over a protocol driven network. *MY* web host gives me unlimited drive space for $300 a year.

 

In their email they claim they have less than 1 million users, thus they cannot afford the cloud space. On their home page they say their goal for the year is 15 million users. Hmmm... I did some research. They have 11 employees. They're a Corporation. The SEC says their NET last year was 49 million. Based in Salt Lake City, Utah. Hmmm...

 

Did I mention I retired from a firm I sold that tested companies to see if they were vulnerable to hackers? Hmmm...

Edited by JustBlowinInTheWind

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I refuse to use the cloud for just the sorts of reasons that Brian is outlining. I call it "follow the money"  I have all my own software discs and will no doubt for the rest of my life anyway continue to use nothing later than windows 7 and my XP still works fine on my laptop which will never see the internet or wifi. and I have three external hard drives. Oh yes and I have hundreds of pencils and reams of paper. The other rant is about ink and printers but I'll let someone else take that away.

 

Michael

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Brian,

 

Their net sales maybe 49, but that only means 4.5 each ... and they do like their holidays, their new cars, and keep their wives content ... You on the oher hand need to supply them with the fundamentals to sustain them in  their endeavours ... I remember when working for Sarah Lee at Douwe Egberts Van Nelle Tobacco we had to increase sales 10% each year ... (the American way) The fact that they changed their coverage is a mere way to increase profits ... the typical method in IT as you yourself should know(!)

 

Negative publicity in any form is the best way to get back at them ... The blog is a very nice way ... better would be to create a competitive application ... which performs better and is cheaper (free..?)

 

Cheers

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Today I backed up my data locally :-) ... no cloud ... by the way, that's a bad name ... it's ... volatile ... not something substantial I would like to depend on ... The only problem is one needs to have two backups for certainty

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Today I backed up my data locally :-) ... no cloud ... by the way, that's a bad name ... it's ... volatile ... not something substantial I would like to depend on ... The only problem is one needs to have two backups for certainty

Point Cloud comes from the mass of data collected from 3D laser scanning. Think of pixels, each one having an X, Y and Z position with color. The need for storage to handle that mass of data plus the software to sort it out was produced and now expanded into other uses. Stuck with Cloud, maybe knowing a bit of the source might make the burden of being stuck with the name, easier.

jud

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Jud.

 

In IT, "cloud" is just a marketing buzzword for "use our datacenter and pay us what we want every month".  The original concept was different.... multiple data centers in different locations so that if one went down, you could still access your data and it would be cheaper than doing it yourself.  The reality on the last was that it cost more to do it that way, then for you to run your own datacenter with continual and periodic backups.

 

If you're using the cloud for storage, always always always keep a local backup.  Preferably two.  This is more critical if you're running a business or keeping irreplacable data such as photos.  I hate hearing when folks lose all their pictures, music, data because they only kept stuff on "the cloud".....

 

No, I don't use the cloud.  Yes, I do have multiple backups on our systems here at home.

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Brian,

 

This isn't the first time I've heard this tale.  Every "supplier" seems to want to sell "Software-as-a Service" and get that monthly money stream flowing.  I'm guessing that the "cloud" means "their cloud" only?  Proprietary solution like Apple, MS, etc.?  

 

Possibly send your story to some of the IT press.  If one does a story on this, they might change their ways or just hunker down and be total butts about it.  I've seen this more than once.  There's a couple of companies related to this hobby that I know of that pull the "ban the member" and "kill their support" card if there are any complaints, no matter how minor.  Others have been starting that business model also.  

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A point cloud is a set of data points in some coordinate system. In a three-dimensional coordinate system, these points are usually defined by X, Y, and Z coordinates, and often are intended to represent the external surface of an object. Point clouds may be created by 3D scanners.

This is the application I was referring to and it came along first providing the means for the development of mass storage we have today, called clouds. Yep two different critters hence my reference to 3D Scanners.

I also backup myself, not on line.

jud

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Thanks for the ideas y'all. I do in fact have my own server. Very high end. $700 beast with raid 10 and 10 TB. It'll do anything from host web sites including PHP-mysql, stream video, music...etc. It can be a mail server, and runs virtual machines. And and can be accessed from the net. Qnap makes them from a few hundred to many thousands for corporations.

 

But... Yeah, proprietary. If I could get someone to build me a basic database structure I could certainly do the PHP... Then I would build my own app... I've figured out how to export the recipe's into text files that I could upload to my own app. I also found the ip address of their cloud server and the port they use but I can't telnet to it. I ran nmap but I can't figure out what protocol it's using. It finds the port but doesn't find what's on the other side.

 

Their whole app is Java. TONS of .jre's. Which is why it's so bloody slow. Even on my i7 with 24 gb ram. Papyrus will decompress the jre's and I found a plugin that will reverse engineer the files, but hundred of jre's means thousand of components. Not practical at my skill level. I know almost nothing about java programming.

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Except as coffee, Java sucks.   I tried it many years ago but went back to assembly and C/C++.   That's not so much a programming language as it is a nightmare.

 

I've seen some recipe programs that are stand alone and do similar things like pull stuff from other sources (including copy/paste) and then fomat it.  Hmm...  I'll kick an email to my Mom as she uses one.  Not sure which one though....  

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Incidentally, I doth protest. 'Twas not a failure of the cloud technology. 'Twas a failure on the part of those people in Salt Lake City Utah. It's not the technology that failed me, it was the people.

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... and I thought I was clever because I've actually managed to rescue my real 'pictures' folder from the hard disk I extracted from the laptop that crashed ...

Brian,

 

You are clever. Not many people will be able to do it, or make the effort doing it, and more important .... succeed!!!

 

Cheers

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I'm glad I'm a mere programmer ... the server knowledge I use mostly for private purposes, and would like to keep it that way ... the cloud ... you do what you think is best ... those (big) companies may keep their head in the coulds, as far as I'm concerned ... At least I know I still have my pictures, images, documents, and whatevere more digital data there is at hand and available to use here (amongst others) or whereever I want to

 

I just hope people realise that it's their own responsablity to safeguard their property. It's easy to put that in someonelse's hands but that to me is not the same

 

Today and Yesterday ... more garden work as we went to 25 / 26 C | 77 / 79 F after the days with nightfrost ... Need to do some acclimatising too

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Spent the morning hours adjusting the sprinkler heads. Paved and concrete areas does not grow using water. It's better to let the grass get it. The lawn is divided into six zones. One of my dogs loves the sprinkler, he has so much fun running and chasing.

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