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You are a braver man than I Carl!

(I was thinking it though)

54 minutes ago, Julie Mo said:

Dolphins, manatees and rays - no problem

Julie, possibly it is because it sounds like your water is salt water. I think American Alligators are strictly fresh water critters. Don't know about one eyed snakes, if Carl is right they may prefer hot tub water.

I'll go back to my corner now.

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You may know that we have the joy of a fabulous view from my apartment balconies out over Hamaoze and  Plymouth Sound

 

Well today was a really drear  - mist shrouding the yachts and the navy ships on the waternearly invisible.

And then I had a real Fathers Day treat  as i heard a strange sound approaching.

  I am close ( but not too close) to the railway and there chugging along below me was a steam loco pulling a full train of old Pullman carriages.  Quite made me smile - didnt have time to get a pic but here is one of the loco from the press !

Merchant Navy Class Pacific locomotive No 35028 ‘Clan Line’ built in 1948

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On 6/15/2018 at 6:51 PM, lmagna said:

Julie, possibly it is because it sounds like your water is salt water. I think American Alligators are strictly fresh water critters.

There's a river that feeds into the bay the canals connect to.  Some say the river makes the water brackish but it's salty enough for dolphins and rays to come into the canals to feed.  There have been some reports of alligators in the canals and I've heard pictures prove it but I haven't seen them. 

 

The problem for alligators who stray into the canals is there is nowhere to get out of the water.  The seawalls are too high.  But there are times when the tides will rise up over our dock. 

 

A smart gator hunting humanoids would do well to show up during high tide and sample a tasty morsel of a humanoid sitting on the dock, sipping on an umbrella drink.

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1 hour ago, Julie Mo said:

sipping on an umbrella drink.

Those umbrellas are SO Gosh though. Makes the Gator look so fufu! :rolleyes:

 

I suspect you may be right though that the gators stay up river away from the high seawalls. They do prefer to be in places where they can go freely between water and shore. I still don't know about their willingness to stray into salt water or possibly into brackish tidal waters. That area does tend to be a mixing ground for many sea and fresh water species. 

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I'm always amazed at how many people think nothing of working in the canal waters.  And every year there's a mile swim across where the river and bay meet.  No one has been eaten yet. 

 

But what sticks in my head was the time we went to look at a house, just to do a drive by.  When we stopped in front of the house, the man next door comes over and raps on our window.  I roll down the window and he says, "You wanna see the house?"  I told him we were in the market but would contact a realtor if we were serious.  He says, "I'll show you."  And with that he returns to his house to get a key.

 

When he comes back we're standing outside waiting for him.  He's wearing a sleeveless T-shirt and I see a large tattoo on arm of a boxer posing for a fight.  Under the boxer is the words, "Let's get started."  He's about 70 years old.  There are two brand new Cadillacs in his garage.  Images of a mob hit man float in my mind.

 

While showing the house, we walk out back to look at the dock.  He points across the canal and says, "I have a friend who lives over there.  I swim over when I want to see him."  I asked about alligators in the canal.  He looks at me and says, "They don't bother me."  I think I know why.

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Don't ever let anyone convince you that gators don't hunt in salt or brackish water. I guarantee you they do.

I was wading waist deep in salt water fishing for speckled trout when a huge gator cruised over to see me and my brother close up. We probably set some kind of record high-stepping it out of there. We had fish hanging from our waist on a stringer and he probably wanted to eat our fish. 

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1 hour ago, CDW said:

he probably wanted to eat our fish

And anything else close! The only time I have seen gators bite 'gently' was in films where they are handling their young. Any other time they seem to be in a bit of a rush and are not so selective. 

 

Not that we have a huge gator problem around here but it is nice to know that they wander into salt water also. 

 

Question though is the Speckled Trout the same as the Spotted Trout and if so don't they prefer brackish water areas over fully salt water areas?

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This is a typical "Speckled Trout" (Spotted Sea Trout) in Florida.

I've never caught one in brackish water. I always catch them in tidal areas of salt water grass flats. They feed in the grass flats and move back and forth to deeper water with the tides. Not sure if they are related to the Spotted Trout out on the west coast or not.  

 

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12 hours ago, CDW said:

This is a typical "Speckled Trout" (Spotted Sea Trout) in Florida.

I've never caught one in brackish water. I always catch them in tidal areas of salt water grass flats. They feed in the grass flats and move back and forth to deeper water with the tides. Not sure if they are related to the Spotted Trout out on the west coast or not.  

 

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Thank you!  Mystery solved! 

 

A neighbor stopped by the other day saying he took his wife out on his sailboat (she hates sailing) but just motored.  They did some fishing along the way and he said he caught a catfish and a trout.  He was at the mouth of the river at the time, under the bridge.  But I'm thinking, "Trout?  In, at best, brackish water?"  My fresh water brain could not compute. 

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39 minutes ago, Julie Mo said:

Thank you!  Mystery solved! 

 

A neighbor stopped by the other day saying he took his wife out on his sailboat (she hates sailing) but just motored.  They did some fishing along the way and he said he caught a catfish and a trout.  He was at the mouth of the river at the time, under the bridge.  But I'm thinking, "Trout?  In, at best, brackish water?"  My fresh water brain could not compute. 

A steelhead is a sea run rainbow trout. Up here in the Pacific Northwest we catch sea run cutthroat trout too. The go up the rivers and creeks to spawn.

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Drove home from West Virginia yesterday. A measly 16 hour drive. Add that to the 19 hour drive (road construction and traffic accident delays) I made last Thursday to get there. I guess could spend some of these retirement years as an over the road truck driver if I was pressed into service. B)

 

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Gators can stand a lot of fresh water, Mobile Bay is the second largest estuary behind the Chesapeake (I think) gators all over every river, creek and tidal pool up and down the coast, They swim and travel to the outlying barrier islands, Petit Bois, Dauphin Island, Deer Island,  Horn Island all salt water with fresh or brackish water ponds, along with fox raccoons opossums all that were not native to the barrier islands. There are so many gators know folks are putting up fences on the waterfront properties because so many dogs have come up missing.

 

Speckled Trout (Spotted Sea trout) can stand very low salinity in the winter time they catch them in Deep holes in the Local rivers.

 

True story we were getting complaints of gill netters netting the river when temps got down below freezing. The one detail we worked short story we caught and confiscated 3 boats boats nets motors and gear value & 76,000.00, and 6700 lbs of speckled trout, in one evening.:cheers:

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4 hours ago, Julie Mo said:

Thank you!  Mystery solved! 

 

A neighbor stopped by the other day saying he took his wife out on his sailboat (she hates sailing) but just motored.  They did some fishing along the way and he said he caught a catfish and a trout.  He was at the mouth of the river at the time, under the bridge.  But I'm thinking, "Trout?  In, at best, brackish water?"  My fresh water brain could not compute. 

There's another common salt water trout we catch a lot here in Florida...the Silver Trout. They look similar, but all silver, no speckles. Rather slimy, too. 

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27 minutes ago, John Allen said:

Gators can stand a lot of fresh water, Mobile Bay is the second largest estuary behind the Chesapeake (I think) gators all over every river, creek and tidal pool up and down the coast, They swim and travel to the outlying barrier islands, Petit Bois, Dauphin Island, Deer Island,  Horn Island all salt water with fresh or brackish water ponds, along with fox raccoons opossums all that were not native to the barrier islands. There are so many gators know folks are putting up fences on the waterfront properties because so many dogs have come up missing.

 

Speckled Trout (Spotted Sea trout) can stand very low salinity in the winter time they catch them in Deep holes in the Local rivers.

 

True story we were getting complaints of gill netters netting the river when temps got down below freezing. The one detail we worked short story we caught and confiscated 3 boats boats nets motors and gear value & 76,000.00, and 6700 lbs of speckled trout, in one evening.:cheers:

I was netting mullet in the canals at Crystal River with some family members. You will catch all kinds of fish in your net there, both salt and fresh water varieties. Some of the locals will kid around and say they caught some 'green back mullet' in their nets, when really they caught large mouth bass. Keeping those caught in a net is a good way to lose all your fishing equipment and boat, a healthy fine, and maybe even some jail time. The biggest sheepshead I ever saw was caught in our net. Had to throw him back, too. What a weird looking fish is the sheepshead. 

 

 

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But I'm thinking, "Trout?  In, at best, brackish water?"  My fresh water brain could not compute. 

As a certifiable fish geek (B.S. in fisheries science), I love all the confusion caused by common names of different species. Of course, sea trout are not true trout at all (family Salmonidae) but rather members of the drum family (family Sciaenidae). They shouldn't feel put out, though, since brook and brown trout are not trout either (genus Oncorynchus); they're actually chars (genus Salvelinus). True red snapper and Pacific red snapper are completely different species, and to add to the confusion, "Pacific red snapper" is in a genus (Sebastes) that includes over a dozen species that can legally be sold as "red rockfish." And there's plenty of other examples of this sort of craziness. Fun, fun, fun!

 

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Up here in the Pacific Northwest we catch sea run cutthroat trout too. 

We used to catch these in our electrofishing samples on occasion back in my field work days. The resident form is really very attractive, and in the tiny creeks we sometimes sampled a "trophy"-sized coastal cutthroat might be only six inches long. The Eel River is their southern-most drainage, and our crew had the good fortune of documenting their presence in some tributaries from which they were previously unknown.

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4 hours ago, CDW said:

What a weird looking fish is the sheepshead. 

CDW,

 

There is 2 fish folks would throw away Sheephead and Trigger fish, both a pain to clean, Would rather eat Trigger than Red Snapper you have to skin it like a catfish and you have a very small triangular piece of flesh on a 4 pound Trigger it may yield from both sides 10 or 12 ounces of meat, Like your picture Sheephead are ugly and all bones, huge rough scales but worth the cleaning for a very small amount of meat but it is fantastic grilled firm and flaky. we 'd catch them with hermit crabs that's why they had those dentures to crush crabs and oysters. Hungry dinner time:) Oh the Silver Trout is commonly called a white trout Cynosion Arenarius I think if memory serves me there not good always full of those big round worms, actually most fish are wormy and parasitic bon appitite

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I read an article years ago in a magazine catering to aquarium fish keeping.  The author of the article described the time he caught a sheepshead and decided to take it to a local fish store to see if the owner, a friend of his, was interested in adding it to his inventory.  The owner, having never before seen such a fish, gladly took it. 

 

What followed was almost comical.  The sheepshead apparently didn't like being kept in an aquarium and the next morning the owner arrives and finds the fish on the floor, pretty much dried up.  He goes to pick it up to discard it and it moves.  So he puts it back in the aquarium.  Soon it begins to swim again.  Later in the day he hears a crash.  The fish had jumped out again and landed on on a table with glass figurines made for aquariums.  Most of the figurines were on the floor, broken.  

 

He puts the fish back in the aquarium and covers it with a steel mesh then cleans up the broken figurines and tallies up the loss.  All total, the broken figurines cost him over a hundred dollars.

 

It wasn't long before he heard another strange sound but ignored it at the time.  When he went later to check up on the sheepshead, he found it missing.  He looked around on the floor but couldn't find it.  Then he looks at the tank next to where the sheepshead was and there he found the ugly fish.  But there were no other fish in the tank.  There had been a couple dozen before.

 

A customer walks in and sees the sheepshead.  He asks the owner, "Why do you have this fish?  You can't kill them.  They will eat everything in your tanks.  This one fish could put you out of business." 

 

That was the last time the fish was seen in his shop.   

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Moving from fish stories...

 

In trying to keep with the old boat house theme here, I milled some pieces of sipo a few weeks back for making wood boat blocks.  In my mind's eye was a boom vang that might look good hanging on a wall or from the ceiling possibly as a light fixture hanger.  Yesterday, after sealing myself from the nasty sipo dust, I shaped one of the blocks to see how it might look.

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It's a beast but it's functional.  I'm thinking I should rout a groove around the outside for a rope and ring, kind of like this:

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Its not so much what I did, its what my wife  did. Unlike a couple of former sailors I know, I have never been one to take the dont wash my seasoned coffee mug to seriously. But, this morning I notice my mug is not on the desk where it usually lives. Ah! sez I, she snuck into the dishwasher for a little bath. HHmmmm.... its not in the dishwasher, odd. Its not on the counter, looks in the cabinet, no mug there. WAIT!!!!! Whats this???

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"It was so dirty I thought I would scrub it for you.":o SACRILEGE!!!! BLASPHEME!!!! Whats a man to do????? Sigh, my morning coffee will never be the same.

What a shock to see a gleaming cup where once there was a well seasoned holder of caffeinated beverage. It could be worse, she could have straightened up my work bench!!!:P

Sam

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Yesterday and part of this morning was spent staring at a screen doing CAD.  My eyes are crossed.  I'm working on a design for an entertainment center.  Sunday we finally broke down and bought some furniture.  It will be here in 4-8 weeks.  That's how much time I have to design, build and put a finish on the new entertainment center.  I think I may have also promised a coffee and end table in that time frame, too. 

 

Me and my big mouth.

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Still tinkering with my 3D printer, testing and printing various objects before I tackle some difficult projects.

This is a medieval castle that I scaled down 50% in the slicer program that converts the shape file into a usable G-Code file for the 3D printer.

The complete castle will consist of around 25 parts to finish it. Here are seven parts that make up the base and a couple of the lower level castle parts. Once it's glued together, I don't think you'll see any seams. Amazing how these little el-cheapo machines like mine are able to print to this level of accuracy. 

I can foresee the time coming in the very near future where many of the items we use day to day will be printed by the user from downloaded shape files right on their desktop at home. Retailers are going to take a big hit and will need to rethink their business models. This is a rapidly developing technology that will be more than just a hobby, soon. That's my uneducated opinion of course.

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