trippwj Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share #31 Posted March 10, 2013 Thank you, John. It is a challenging scale to work at (very unforgiving of any slips), but still enjoying - just challenged for building time! Wild, rainy, windy day here today, so heading over to my little corner to work on some more of the teensie weensie timey wimey spar parts. Think I'll work on the main boom today. Thanks for the kind words! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 10, 2013 Share #32 Posted March 10, 2013 Hello Wayne Tell Almanza that the cannons fire torpedos, he sounds as bossy as Al. I cant even imagine working at this scale, The hobby's tough enough, where do you go from here, blindfolded ship builing, then blindfolded ship in a bottle? Amazing Work my friend. Its so easy to forget just how small the scale is on this kit (3/32" = 1' if I remember correctly, over a 1:100+) Keep on Riggin' Shine On -/\= Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 10, 2013 Share #33 Posted March 10, 2013 Hi Wayne! Talk about taking care of the little details! Very nice! Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share #34 Posted March 10, 2013 Thanks, Keith & Buck. This is one of three I am working on (a little at a time). Doing one solid hull, one POB amd one POF. Here is a comparison of the scales for the 3: The Harriet Lane was 180 feet in length, the Ranger is based on the William Doughty plans for a 51 ton revenue cutter of about 57 feet on deck, and the Emma C. Berry is about 40 feet between perpendiculars. All are nearly the same size as a model - just the bits and pieces are a lot smaller on the HL than the others! riverboat 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagoon Posted March 11, 2013 Share #35 Posted March 11, 2013 cool comparison. Hurry up and finish so I can be a good copycat hehehe lookin good though and thanks for your help. Quote ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Sarah Current Build: Krabbenkutter CUX-87 Harriet Lane Fishcutter GO-38 In the Wings: Corel Victory Cross section Completed Build: USS Missouri HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Peterboro Canoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share #36 Posted March 17, 2013 Well, have gotten a little further on the ol' girl. Still working on the deck furnishings - have installed the handlines on the walkway for the starboard paddle wheel housing, working on the same for the port. Still need to finish the wheel house and install it aft and install the ladders from the deckhouse to the paddle wheel housings. Have completed the main boom and installed onto the main mast, now working on shaping the gaff and carving the jaws. Next up is assembling the gaff, fitting it out with blocks and the getting both installed on the main mast. No pictures for this update, but I promise to get some up soon! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted March 17, 2013 Share #37 Posted March 17, 2013 Sounds like you're barreling right along Wayne. Don't worry, MOST of us can wait for pictures. mtaylor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 17, 2013 Share #38 Posted March 17, 2013 I wonder what you mean Augie….. augie, mtaylor and trippwj 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 18, 2013 Share #39 Posted March 18, 2013 I haven't caught up with your build for some time Wayne; youve made great progress and she looks great. Interesting comparison you have there. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted March 20, 2013 Thanks, Pat. Have to take most of this week off for business trip to Indianapolis. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted March 21, 2013 Share #41 Posted March 21, 2013 Very nice Wayne!!! Have really enjoyed watching you and Sarah go at this vessel. Mine is still on the shelf waiting it's turn at the table. Love the pic of the 3 builds!! I have 2 at the moment, not sure if I could go at 3 or not (tempting for sure) pretty sure the Admiral would have a field day with me if I did =) -Adam trippwj 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarero Posted March 21, 2013 Share #42 Posted March 21, 2013 Wayne, I can really appreciate the scale that you are working at. I spent months with my 1:50 scale swift sitting on the table next to Sarah's Harriet Lane and the difference is stunning. Now I am attacking a build at nearly the same scale and I have to say it is intimidating. Your ship looks great and like Sarah said hurry up so she can copy you! slagoon and trippwj 2 Quote -------------------------------In Progress Build:Robert E. Lee by Scientific a.k.a "The Bob"Completed Build: Swift 1805 by AL -Jared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #43 Posted March 21, 2013 Thanks, Adam & Jared. Back home today so hope to back at the table tonight! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted March 21, 2013 Share #44 Posted March 21, 2013 I may be wrong, but a year ago there were no Harriet Lane's on the Forum. Now we've got two coming down the stretch. Great work Wayne ( Sarah too!). Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 23, 2013 Share #45 Posted March 23, 2013 Lady's first Augie! Great work Sarah ( Wayne too!) trippwj 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share #46 Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks, Sjors! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagoon Posted March 24, 2013 Share #47 Posted March 24, 2013 Keep it up Wayne, can't wait to see Pictures (I'm taking over for Sjors while he is at the Dead Man's Ridge Walk) Picture Picture Picture.... NOW Sjors and trippwj 2 Quote ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Sarah Current Build: Krabbenkutter CUX-87 Harriet Lane Fishcutter GO-38 In the Wings: Corel Victory Cross section Completed Build: USS Missouri HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Peterboro Canoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 24, 2013 Share #48 Posted March 24, 2013 It's a bit busy with comments, but hardly any images ... Any work done jet? Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share #49 Posted March 24, 2013 Following the post on Sarah's log about rigging, I have spent the past couple of days trying to sort out what was what. This first picture is straight from the US Coast Guard historian - color is a tad off, but shows the sails and most of the rigging. The picture below takes the plans provided with the kit and highlights the running rigging that is included with the model. Since it is not provided with sails, there are numerous blocks and details missing. As you can see, many of the lines would belay to a pin rack along the side of the ship. These are not included in the kit nor shown on the plans, although there are some cleats shown along both sides of the ship that could be used. In terms of rigging her with sails, working from the USCG drawing and some judicious analysis of Biddlecombe and Murphy & Jeffers, it is possible to come up with a reasonable method for rigging the sails. Based on the tight confines at this scale, and the myriad other lines involved already, I am opting to not include sails, so plan to stop at the rigging as shown on the plan. This picture gives some idea of the running rigging involved in rigging the sails realistically - hence my taking the "easier" option of bare poles. Have been working on making the gaff for the main mast - have it shaped, sanded, currently making the jaws. WIth any luck, I can give you a photo update tomorrow. Nirvana and augie 2 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted March 24, 2013 Share #50 Posted March 24, 2013 Nice work, Wayne. This will make Sarah happy!!! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 25, 2013 Share #51 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Yea Pictures! So by bare poles, you dont mean just masts and standing rigging? I'm a assuming you mean yards, and minimal running rigging, just no sails. With some of the obstacle's you've encountered, maybe you mean just sticking dowels in and saying done Sarah's gonna be real happy with this info. I think she started that peterboro to let you forge the way. Nice research Waynedinand Magellan. I tend to agree with you. show off the rigging and detail, even though the sails for that 1:144th would be postage stamp sized. Personally I dont know how you work at this scale, it boggles my mind. Edited March 25, 2013 by themadchemist trippwj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagoon Posted March 25, 2013 Share #52 Posted March 25, 2013 My HERO!!!!!! Thank you!!!!! Oh this helps immensely. Keith I believe the red, yellow and green lines are technically running rigging but they would still (I believe) be there regardless of if sails are there or not. Quote ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Sarah Current Build: Krabbenkutter CUX-87 Harriet Lane Fishcutter GO-38 In the Wings: Corel Victory Cross section Completed Build: USS Missouri HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Peterboro Canoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #53 Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks, Keith n Sarah. I will be putting on the yards and running rigging shown in the first picture (the braces etc) as those are used to adjust the yards. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share #54 Posted March 29, 2013 Good evening (or insert appropriate time of day for your location). Finally, I have a small amount of progress I can show you. As I mentioned, I have been working on rigging the main mast. Lots of little pieces here. Start with 4 deadeyes for the topmast shrouds. Then, on the forward side of the top, need to have 2 blocks for the fore tops'l braces. On the aft side, 3 blocks for the gaff rigging. I still need to add one more block at the crosstree level for the gaff head. This view is rather close - as you can see, there is still some cleaning up to do on the pieces. Looks much better from 12 inches without the magnification. Also still working on the main boom. Need to add 2 more cleats. The jaw saddle is simply rigging thread wrapped around the mast then stiffened with CA. Parrell is thread with 1mm beads (smallest I could find). So, continuing to work on the gaff, getting ready to pre-mount the chains and deadeyes for the main mast then it will be time to step the main mast. Will not be mounting the gaff until after I step the mast. Many thanks - advice, suggestions or recommendations are always desired and graciously recieved! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagoon Posted March 29, 2013 Share #55 Posted March 29, 2013 Neat - did you end up making the cleats smaller? Quote ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Sarah Current Build: Krabbenkutter CUX-87 Harriet Lane Fishcutter GO-38 In the Wings: Corel Victory Cross section Completed Build: USS Missouri HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Peterboro Canoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share #56 Posted March 29, 2013 Just a smidgen - a little bit of careful file work on the sides, ends and throat and they are scale at about 18" long. Figured that was probably close enough at this scale!!! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 29, 2013 Share #57 Posted March 29, 2013 Looks good Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted March 29, 2013 Share #58 Posted March 29, 2013 Looks good Wayne. That's an almost impossible scale to work at (at least for me). Question on your drawing. Are the green line going to the ends of the yard the lifts? If so, will you have lifts on all 3 yards? Thanks, Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share #59 Posted March 29, 2013 Harvey - The green lines are the lifts for the fore course. The topsaill and top gallant yards also have fixed lifts and a halliard to raise/lower. See the two snippets from the isntruction manual below (very similar to what is shown in Underhill and Murphy & Jeffers). Keith - Thanks for stopping by! Has been a year (as of this past Sunday) since I bought the lady, but still having fun with it. Probably another month or two before I can say she is finished. avsjerome2003 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 29, 2013 Share #60 Posted March 29, 2013 Im with Harv, if I was attempting that scale you'd have to lock up the guns and keep shape objects away from me. 2 months, HA 2 years would not be enough for me. I admire those that have the patience for these ultra-small scale models. avsjerome2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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