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HM Schooner Pickle by robdurant - FINISHED - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64


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Hi, 

 

I'm just in the process of finishing up my previous build - a 1:48 model of a Hunt class Mine Counter-Measure Vessel, HMS Cottesmore, and I've got this kit in ready to build next. The hope is that it will give me the skills to finish off a Panart Royal Yacht Caroline that my late father started. Also, it looks like a really lovely kit. I'm not expecting to match the efforts of some of the other superb models of Pickle I've seen on this site, but hopefully I'll end up with something I can look at and enjoy :)

 

I've received the kit, so watch this space for updates. And thanks for reading. 

 

A couple of 'what's in the box' shots attached.

 

Rob

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Hi Eamonn, "loblolly" - thanks for the kind words... it's an encouragement as I set out.

 

Time to get on with the build...  :D Something a bit different after HMS Cottesmore
 
I'll be posting all the photos of the build up here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/150573193@N04/albums/72157680568137234
 
And here's an overview.
 
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So far, I've made a building board, fitted the false keel and stem, and drilled mounting holes into the bottom of the keel. Then I fitted all but two of the frames.
 
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The ninth frame is supposed to be left off, but the first frame had been cut somewhat unevenly. JoTiKa are sending a new one through as we speak...
 
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A small amount of adjustment was needed on part 32, so that it could fit over the keel, but it was only about 2mm, and easily done with a file. 
 
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Pleased with how it's going so far :)
 
Take care
 
Rob
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Wow, you guys make planking look easy... I've decided to follow the instructions that come in the kit for the first planking... being my first attempt.

 

I've finished bevelling the frames... Frames 1 and 9 are in place, and the stand's put together, and the gunport patterns are in place.

 

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Then I sanded the bearding lines, and wished I'd done it earlier!!

 

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Anyway - the first planking is underway - 6 strakes on one side, and 4 on the other... 

 

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I've had to take a couple of planks off and redo them, but I think it's going okay now... time will tell. Thankfully, it's all going to be under paint or copper by the time the boat's finished. And hopefully the second planking will be a bit neater :) - I feel like I've learned a lot already: Not least, that it's tough to resist that urge to push the planks sideways.

 

Happy building!

 

Rob

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Lookin good Rob, you'll be finished 1st planking in no time ! .. but have a quick look at fairing those 2 aftermost bulkheads where they meet the bearding/rabbet (see Post # 6 in Richards (The Sailor) Pickle Log) as I'm sure it will help you get a better plank run when you get there! Or are you happy as it stands, what do you think ?

 

Best of Luck

 

Eamonn

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Rob - very nice start on Pickle.  Did want to ask you about your HMS Cottesmore model, would love to see pictures - was that from a kit or scratchbuild?  Wondering if you've ever come across any kits of their replacement the River Class?

 

Hi - thanks for the encouragement. 

 

Cottesmore was a hull from Fleetscale, and fittings from Sirmar - the rest was scratch built from lots and lots of plasticard and brass rod, etc... You can see the whole build come together here:

 

http://rnwarships.informe.com/forum/minehunters-and-minelayers-f25/hms-cottesmore-1-48-hunt-class-minesweeper-t823.html

 

Barry at Sirmar does a River class fibreglass hull, and lots of the fittings for it. But be prepared to wait a while - he works full time, and only does this as a side job, so it can take him a while to fulfil orders - they're excellent when they arrive though. Take a look here...

 

http://sirmarfittings.com/tyne.html

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Lookin good Rob, you'll be finished 1st planking in no time ! .. but have a quick look at fairing those 2 aftermost bulkheads where they meet the bearding/rabbet (see Post # 6 in Richards (The Sailor) Pickle Log) as I'm sure it will help you get a better plank run when you get there! Or are you happy as it stands, what do you think ?

 

Best of Luck

 

Eamonn

 

That's really helpful... I'll definitely take another look at that area. Thanks Eamonn :)

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Good going Rob.

I enjoyed building the Pickle. Have you read up on her voyage back from Trafalgar? 

Looking forward to the completed vessel.

Mike.

 

Thanks Mike.

 

I've read a few books on Trafalgar, and the brief account of Pickle's race back to England, but nothing very detailed... fascinating story, though. It really captures the imagination - I think that's what drew me to this boat in the first place (coupled with the manageable size :) )

 

Rob

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Time for an update...
 
I filed down the frames at the back to help the run of planking towards the bearding line... in retrospect, now I'm thinking I didn't file it down quite enough :( - but I'll know for next time.
 
I've completed the first layer of planking on the starboard side. 
 
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This is definitely the 'messier' side... I'm happier with the results on the other side. But it looks like with a little sanding, it should tidy up okay. Not _too_ much clinkering... and I'm reasonably happy with the line the planks take up to the bow.
 
I'd be interested to hear what people use for wood filler? Brands, etc...? I want to make sure this layer is absolutely right before I start the second planking, so I give myself a fighting chance :)
 
Here's a shot of the other side, so far...
 
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Thanks for looking, and thanks for all your kinds comments and advice. It's all very welcome.
 
Rob

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Hey There Rob, my Ballahoo hull looked exactly like yours does now and I found that after a good sanding the hull didn't need anywhere near as much filler as it seemed before sanding.  I used a 'Red Devil' product ! it is white in colour and very very very light in weight. but as a MSW friend told me.. don't go overboard as 'filler isn't an ideal gluing surface for the next layer' (and not ideal to stick pins into either..  as I discovered later myself.. :P  ^_^)

 

You'll be amazed how good your hull looks after a serious sanding even without filler !

 

All The Best

 

Eamonn

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It's been a while since I put up an update... mainly because the progress is slow, but I'm trying not to rush, and get it right. For a first attempt I'm really quite pleased. Beginning to feel like a crying shame to cover all the wood up with copper and paint  :(  :rolleyes:

 

This is the starboard side so far...

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I've also started the carronades as a project to get on with while the glues setting on the planking...

 

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This is the progress as of yesterday evening...

 

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There are lots more photos of progress here:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/150573193@N04/albums/72157680568137234

 

... but it's mainly a record of the planking, so I thought I'd spare you :)

 

Thanks for reading.

 

Rob

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Another little update. 

 

I've almost finished the stealers in the starboard side, now...

 

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And I'm working my way down the port side... (trying to get something vaguely like symmetry as I go...)

 

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Slow and steady, but getting there, now. Thanks for all the encouragement. It really helps spur me on. And, yes, I'm dreading those little brass eyelets on the carronades... :S I'd forgotten how brass learns to fly when it's cut into tiny bits!

 

Happy building and thanks for reading...

 

Rob

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Well, I've finished the second planking :)

 

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Cut out the bulkhead stubs...

 

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Planked the false deck...

 

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And then broken with the order of the instructions, because I wanted at least one coat of paint on before I started the coppering... I figured it might help me to end up with a neat line at the waterline... as it turns out, it just makes marking the waterline on a nightmare (pencil won't work on black paint!)... and all I had was a huge silver marker... anyway... it's done now. Waterline marked, and coppering complete:

 

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I'm really quite pleased with it... the planking isn't completely smooth, but I like the way it allows you to see the planking underneath. 

 

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Time for another update. Since last time, I've fitted the deck, added margin planks, (thanks to Blue Ensign for the inspiration for these), started planking the deck, and started putting together the smaller skylight.

 

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I used the kit Tanganyika for the decks, and marked one side with a Black Sharpie marker. I need to remember to let the deck overhang the back so that it can be trimmed to fit the stern fascia. I really like what Blue Ensign did with the stern, but not sure whether I'm quite ready to break from the kit... looks like a place I could cause things to go very very wrong :S... But before then I need to plank the insides of the bulwarks, too, so I have a little time to think about it as I go.

 

Thanks for the likes and encouragement.

 

Rob

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Another update... 

 

I've had opportunity to put the stern fascia on. This highlighted that the margin planks had been trimmed too short, but I've fixed this with a plank running across the stern to tidy things up.

 

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Next job is to get the deck planked, and then put the capping rails on... (and yes... I'm avoiding doing the carronades for as long as possible :) )

 

Happy building

 

Rob

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Well, I bit the bullet and got on with it... 

 

The deck's planked, the capping rails are on, and the carronades are finally built. They still need to be rigged, and I haven't put the vertical screws in the back yet, but otherwise, they're there.

 

I've also put together the other deck grating, and decided to stick with the main hatch as per the kit for a contrast with the gratings (I notice others have replaced this with a fourth grating). Again, I haven't put the ring-bolts onto the main hatch yet.

 

I've also put the name on the back, as per kit.

 

Anyway. Here are some pictures of the progress so far.

 

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Looks brilliant Rob, did you 'Blacken' the guns or paint them ?

 

BTW is that your 'Avatar' (wee photo thingy under your name.. mine is Alf ^_^ )  ship in the back ground of the last photo (wouldn't mind seeing a photo of that too  ;) )

 

Take Care

 

Eamonn

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Hi Eamonn,

 

Thanks for the kind words. I painted the carronades, along with all the eyelets, but I think I'd definitely look at blackening them on  a future project. The black acrylic takes quite a few coats to get a good even finish, and I suspect it won't take much scratching before the brass underneath shows up...

 

The avatar is of a model I built a good few years ago - the Revel HMCS Snowberry Flower class corvette in 1:72 scale, converted for radio control. It looks okay in standoff on the lake, but it's a little rough in places, close-up :) 

 

Here's a few pics of her on and off the water (taken in 2009)...

 

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Finally, a picture of her guts...

 

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Cheers

 

Rob

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Thanks for the photos Rob, she too looks a beaut ! a friend of mine built the same RC boat a few years back too (there is a link on MSW somewhere to a static build of a Flower Class which has been weathered and is set out in a Diorama.. I think she won a competition or something recently... in a word WOW ! :D  I'll see if I can find a photo and post it below, hope you don't mind ) 

 

Cheers

 

Eamonn

 

I just Googled the description and found some photos..

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Well, I've made a bit of progress since my last post :)...

 

  • Added the height adjustment screws through the carronade cascabels (is that even vaguely right?)
  • Put breeching ropes on the port carronades (starboard still to do)
  • Handles on the main hatch
  • Started painting the figures
  • Put together the second skylight and companionway (all but the top hatch) - I've left the doors open a little to just give a hint of what's inside. I can see these breaking right off again, but we'll see how they go :S
  • Put the windows on the skylights, although I haven't yet glazed them (I plan to use Humbrol clearfix), or put on the protective grills.

The photos show up just how much touching up is still to do, but I'm pretty happy with it so far...

 

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All comments very welcome :)

 

Rob

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