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Hi Kester, thanks for stopping by, I'm back on more familiar ground now with full length planks, but as I mentioned I'll keep your suggestion (at least in spirit) by putting a little 'notch' into then to simulate butt ends.. reckon I'd be still planking this time next Christmas if I were to continue with Scale Planks :P  couple of planks let them dry, next day couple of planks let them dry (it was taking 2 days to do a single strake.. ;) as I mentioned though that that might just have been me and my 'super' planking skills!! !)

 

Oh and Regards 277.. your secret is safe with me!! ;)  I'll never tell !!

 

Take Care

 

Eamonn

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Ahhh now I'm with you.. have some ordered already would you believe, didn't know what they were called mind you! (coming from the States together with one of Chucks C18th Longboats, they were both going for half nuttin so couldn't say no.. € 35 to the door!)

I'll probably find I too have an allergy to Walnut Planking but for a different reason to you bud.. :huh:  perhaps I'll continue down with the present stuff after-all, though it would be a shame to waste the Walnut ! Oh Well.

 

All The Best Nigel

 

Eamonn

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Totally agree Nigel, that is a give away price (I have or rather will have when Longboat arrives 4 kits in the stash)

 

Have to dash dinner ready

 

Eamonn

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Eammon

 

Looking good!  You're at (what I call) the 'Cinderella' stage of your build, where the personality of your build starts to come out.  The fun part!  I'm still deciding what I'll build next, I have six in the closet (including the 18thC longboat) and #7 is on it's way.  Any more and I will have to start attending meetings for 'Model Ship Builders Anonymous.'

 

I agree with Nigel and Kester about the poly, use the stuff in the can!  It's the exact same stuff.  The stuff in the can will start to thicken after a couple of years, but at that price, it's cheaper to buy a new can and take the old one to the recycling center. 

 

I like the species of walnut I'm using on this build sooooo much better.  It's darker in color with a cast of gray and has a tight grain.  On a prior build, that walnut species was reddish brown in color and the grain was open, causing the dreaded splintering (and it was a pain to work with.)

 

The last time I had a really good kebab was when I was in Manchester.  There's a place just south of the Manchester velodrome and the shop was open late.  YUM!

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Anyone thought of building a plank on bulkhead kebab shop? No? :D

 

Drat! Eamonn saw through my scheme to pursuade him to go for scale planks! :(

 

Btw, Dee Dee, I don't think I said anything about Poly – wipe on, wipe off, perch sitting, or any other sort – but if it works for you... :huh:

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Hi Lawrence, Thanks for the compliment, have to say though that she is nothing compared to your Vikki !  especially if we start to compare Transom's .. :huh:  :P

 

All The Very Best

 

Eamonn

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All Righty Then, some more fascinating updates from The Ballyhooer !! exciting ain't it :huh:

 

Well the planking march down the hull towards final victory is on-going.. I have measured and found that I am now well below the Wale line and am almost at the Waterline so it is near change over time to Walnut planking (I don't want to use up all the 'Good' stuff in areas that will be painted, The Wales and the area between them and the Waterline will be black, and there will be a little 1 or 2mm black strip of timber between the Wale and the Capping Rail)

By The Way I also removed the Bulkhead Extension Pieces, just need to be sanded level now. Heady Stuff Eh?

 

And on that Bombshell it's photo time ..  Oh the excitement  Woo Hoo.. :mellow:  :mellow:

 

All The Very Best Folks.

 

Eamonn

 

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Thanks Guys, I might put one more of these timber strakes on before moving over to the dreaded Walnut !!

 

Can't wait to see what you have lined up next Mike, and what your Trim work will be like Nigel (detail galore no doubt!)

 

All The Best Guys

 

Eamonn

 

Oh, and Thanks for the Likes too Nigel & Kester !

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Thanks for that Nigel.. I didn't know about them sanding differently or that the Walnut would interfere with the Maple WOW !!! (I am down to a couple of lengths of Maple, it was cut into 2 for posting so am only able to get one strake per go, unless I resort to various different lengths.. that said I have a few runs of the original 1st planking wood available so I shall continue with that)

Best of luck with the Ebony work

 

Sail 'er Easy Mate

 

Eamonn

BTW that leaves me with loads of Walnut.. I know.. I'll send it all to you!! :mellow:  :mellow: :mellow:  am always thinking of my friends like that you see... :huh:  

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Hot Breaking News... (Cue busy & Important music)...

 

2nd Planking Complete... More news and Photos to follow as soon as they come in..

 

 

(Cue Busy & Important Music again.. fade out) :mellow:  :mellow:

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Hi again Lawrence,

Thanks for the visit and the kind word,  yea, I used Maple for most of the 2nd planking (all the top 6 or 7 strakes on the bulwarks area) it cut well, sanded well and seems to look well but remember being new to this I have little to compare it to! (only the original kit supplied stuff, which admittedly wasn't so bad, I refer to the 'pale' wood of 1st planking not the Walnut ! the 'pale' wood is listed as Lime Wood btw.. things get odd here though as the deck timber in the instructions is called Maple, yet in the 'Contents List' it is called Lime and it looks very similar to the 1st planking material!!)

Pop back later Lawrence as I'm sure some of the other folks would have a better opinion on this.. for example Nigel is doing brilliant things with Pear & Dee_Dee is making the dreaded Walnut look simply amazing.. to list only a couple!

 

All The Best

 

Eamonn

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Guys I just did a check as per Nigel and there is a pretty obvious mark left in the supplied deck material.. and nothing obvious left in the Maple.. conclusion the Supplied Material is Lime (does that sound about right?)

Would ye recommend changing it? and to what?  I am guessing the answer to the first part is Yes !! now what about the 2nd Part.. :huh:

The Supplied Timber is 4mm X 0.5mm..

 

I can order enough for my other Caldercraft builds too

 

All The Best

 

Eamonn

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Thanks Nigel for that, I was a bit 'anxious' over the 0.5 mm part of the deck work for the reasons you mentioned as I'm not the neatest builder and my work can require a 'clean-up' sanding!!

 

I think I'll order some more Maple from CMB later (I still have some wider pieces left and I kinda have a hankering to do the Middle 2 Planks at 6mm instead of 4mm, I also have some Beech in the 6mm & 4mm thickness which could give a nice contrast on the deck if put in the right place, say 1/3rd out from the Centre boards .. not set in stone, just an idea to play with! ^_^ )

 

Thanks again Nigel

 

Eamonn

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Just placed the order for the Maple in a few different widths.. hopefully it will be here before I need it this time.. :P  ^_^  ^_^ :mellow:  

 

Still a bit more to do before I get to the decking stage so fingers crossed..

 

Next up:

 

Much Sanding!! and maybe a little filling where it will be painted.. Oh and some Photos too, can't forget them :huh:

 

Bye For Now

 

Eamonn

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Hi All.. Photo as Promised are below..

 

Have Completed 1st Sanding Phase and discovered a small few 'Dips' in the planking, due it would seem to slight Inconsistencies in the 1mm thick planks, will have to watch out for this in future! tis no biggie though as I've plenty of Filler in reserve!!

2nd Sanding wont be happening until Sunday at best due to work, but it will give me occasion to examine those 'dips' more closely and open my Filler Warehouse..

The Gun Ports have been filed out a little accurately more but there is 1mm or so to go, I want to complete inner bulwark planking before finishing them properly. The First & Last Ports are to be cut to the Cap Rail too.

I have Angled Files coming in the post as we speak and hopefully they will arrive just before my timber order for the deck (I need to file down the Bulkhead Spurs which I removed a few days ago before addressing the deck.. have to get the Order of things sorted too re Spirketting, edge of Deck Planks, Painting etc. before going too far)

 

BTW Contrary to appearance in photos the hull is exceeding smooth, even at this stage.. Honestly !! ^_^  ^_^  :mellow:  

 

OK Photo Time..

 

Sail 'er Easy Folks..

 

Eamonn

 

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Teeny Weeny Update..

 

2nd Sanding done, Small amount of Filling done & sanded, Stern Post in place and Gluing as we speak, Hawse Pipes drilled out.  Next up 'possibly' the Wale (I say Possibly as I'm not 100% sure what to do next as I'm waiting on my angled files to clean-up the insides of the bulwarks & deck where I removed the Bulkhead 'horns')

 

Take Care Folks

 

Eamonn

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Hi Eamonn,

I've just joined MSW2 and this is my first post.  I'm recently retired, having no experience whatsoever in modelling, woodcraft, nautical terms etc, but am keen to develop a new hobby.  Rashly (perhaps?) I have the Schooner Ballahoo on its way to me in South Yorkshire (from Cornwall Model Boats) as I'd convinced myself (from limited research) that the Ballahoo was a suitable novice project.  Having read your very impressive build log and seen examples of your quality craftsmanship I'm beginning to wonder whether I've overreached myself as currently, I don't know a bulwark from a bulkhead; but fortunately, I've now got the time to learn these things.

Anyway, I wanted to say many thanks for your very informative log which I'm sure is going to help, if not inspire, me to see this project through the many challenging times ahead.

Regards,

David

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Hi David, Am glad to hear that there will be another Ballahoo up and running here on MSW, the help on here from other members is immense to say the least (it has been such a help to me in getting things moving)

I glad my log is of use to you, and any questions you have please please feel free to ask, If I cannot answer there will be someone else here who can!

Get a build Log going (and if you could let me know about it here that would be great :P ) would love to follow along another 'Ballier' Build ^_^  Just take your time with it and you'll be fine.. oh and always look ahead to the next step (and further ahead if you can) that way you won't be caught out later down the build !

 

Welcome to MSW by the way.. ^_^  ^_^ ^_^  

 

All The Very Best David

 

Eamonn

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Thanks for your advice and words of encouragement Eamonn.  I've just been emailed by UPS to say Ballahoo will be delivered tomorrow (fingers crossed!) so the excitement/apprehension is mounting!  I don't know about a build log at this stage; given the steepness of my learning curve it's going to be weeks before  I would be confident to even get beyond opening the box and checking the contents,  so given my anticipated slow rate of progress it would probably turn into the longest ever build log in the history of MSW.  I have to say that I am also very impressed with the quality of the articles/advice available from/to members on this site.  Currently I'm trying to absorb the excellent articles on planking but I'm getting myself into a bit of a lather as they appear (to me) to suggest different approaches; is there a particular article or method that you would recommend I focus on?

Regards,

David 

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Hi David, personally I just got stuck in and laid the planks from 'Top to Bottom' they fit almost perfectly ! you'll see when you begin (Ballahoo is planked in 2 layers which lets you get the feel for things with the 1st layer.. it really is simpler than it sounds especially on Ballahoo where the planks are 'full length' from front to back (so to speak) with in my case only the smallest adjustments needed !

I am not exaggerating when I say that I don't have much talent in this sort of thing (really I'm not, you'd want to talk to my friends!! ) but by taking my time and looking through MSW for similar ships I got a feel for what was required (the saying 'If I can Do It Then Anyone Can' is not lost here by the way) I will admit though that my knowledge of Boat 'Shapes' has helped (in that I have a good idea as to what something should look like) but it isn't crucial to completing any build!

You are already way ahead of me.. it took me months (4 or 5) before I had the confidence to Lay the Keel.. then I wondered what the delay was ^_^  Just don't glue anything until you have Test Fitted it at least once and remember if you make a mistake you can always Un Glue it (there are means!) and do it again.  Get yourself a few Good Tools, Scalpel Knives, Mini Files, Lots of Sandpaper etc and away you go, seriously it is fun (and you will get a kick out of setting up your Build Log and talking to people about it, some smashing folks on here who will be only too glad to help)

Have a look at Build Logs for 'HMS Sherbourne' and 'HMS Pickle' these are similar small boats to Ballahoo (and from the same Kit Maker) so the builders will all be doing similar things!

 

I really look forward to seeing your posts (or pop on here and let us know how things are going)

 

Take Care David

 

Eamonn

 

UPS will be knocking your door in no time :P

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Quick 'Heads-Up' Folks...

 

I have the Wales in place (many Pins used, !!) and have put a little Re-enforcing at the Hawse Holes, hopefully some photos tomorrow !

 

Cheers

 

Eamonn

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Photo Time.. WooHoo  (I know I know, I really spoil ye.. ^_^ )

 

The Stern Post is in place, and the Hull is pretty much finished with sanding (it might get the odd gentle rub as I progress though)

 

You can see the Hawse Hole (where the Anchor Rope would go through the hull) re-enforcing I put in place, it isn't called for in the 'Plans' but I kinda figured it to be an area that would have been built up to combat wear 'n tear ! it hasn't been fully shaped & filed totally smooth yet .

 

The Wales are made from  2@  3 x 1 mm Beech lengths I had in stock, and will ultimately be painted black. The wale hasn't been shaped properly at the stern yet, but isn't too far off (possibly a little filling required at the very after-most part to blend it into the transom)

 

See I haven't been slacking off.. much.. ^_^  ^_^

 

Take Care Folks

 

Eamonn

PS Still no Deck Timber.. and it was sent this day last week, fingers crossed for next week then :huh:

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Lawrence, here's hoping! I'm actually contemplating putting a thin coat of clear paint on the outer Bulwarks to help protect them (they are to be left natural, well by 'natural' I mean coated with a Clear Matt Poly or similar stuff that I picked up !) I am constantly conscious of them getting grubby!

I might begin this tomorrow after a few test pieces of course ^_^

 

Thanks for Stopping By.

 

Eamonn

 

And Thanks to all the 'Likes' too.. always much appreciated!

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