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WooHoo.. well spotted Dee_Dee, nice to know exactly what was being referred to and that it is a fairly 'regular' Polyurethane (I just checked the price of it on Amazon (UK) they only have the Can version and it is almost £35 ex post for half a pint (225g)!!! (who knew that Polyurethane was the Trade Name for Liquid Gold!!)  (the can on Amazon isn't labelled the 'exact' same but the colouring of the tin is the same, but Wow that is expensive (convert to Euro and add postage and that is the price of a kit :P ) Just had a look at Home Depot (US Site) and the price differences are simply astounding! perhaps I need to 'shop around' a bit.

 

Thanks Dee_Dee for thinking of me and posting the info.

 

 

Eamonn

BTW Hope the Muscongus Lobster Boat goes well !

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Ballahoo Latest :

 

Port Side has caught up with Stbd Side, so onto planking the Stern Transom Bits 'n Bobs (or at least having a think of what I'm going to do there, ie remembering there is a Stern Post to go there too, and a Transom 'Decoration Type of Thingy')

Oh! and the Clamps Pegs& Pins are all off at the moment ! Awwww.. :huh:

 

Bye For Now Folks.

 

Eamonn

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(I just checked the price of it on Amazon (UK) they only have the Can version and it is almost £35 ex post for half a pint (225g)!!! (who knew that Polyurethane was the Trade Name for Liquid Gold!!)

 

Eamonn,

 

I would imagine, by the time Amazon (if ever) manage to sell one of those cans, it will be rock hard and well beyond its use by date! ;)

 

Good going on your planking – I'm sure we'll be rewarded with a pic soon, perhaps when you've finished the transom 'decoration type of thingy'. (I must say here that your nautical expressions are coming on in leaps and bounds.)

 

Btw, you sound most apologetic that the Clamps, Pegs and Pins are off... :P

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Classic Stuff Kester.. have to say you made me laugh! ^_^

I'm totally amazed at the price on Amazon ! probably have to sell a kidney if you wanted to paint a door, hate to think what would happen if you needed to give it a 2nd coat !

 

By the way I was infamous on the boats and around town for making up my own names for stuff.. :huh:  and I genuinely have no idea how to describe the 'squared off circular ring thing that attaches to the outside of the transom' ! :P  I'll take a pikky of it tomorrow and see who comes up with the best name :)

 

Thanks for checking in Kester

 

Eamonn

 

Tell you what.. I'll take that Pikky now.. back in a mo.

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All Righty Then I'm Back..  That odd 'nameless' piece is the last photo! Submit your answers written on the back of a £5 note ($10 will be ok), winner gets a Thimble full of Amazon Minwax... High Stakes Indeed :mellow:  :mellow:

 

All The Best Folks

 

Eamonn

 

Anyhoo..

 

 

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By the way I was infamous on the boats and around town for making up my own names for stuff.. :huh:

 

 

Eamonn,

 

Was that why you took, erm, early retirement? :)

 

Ok, I see what you mean about the 'squared off circular thing that attaches to the outside of the transom'! I don't know what it's called either – 'transom surround' perhaps? Not to worry though, we know what you mean now.

 

Yes, I would plank the transom. I did that on the stern of my Sherbourne, and it looks good – besides making my own 'squared off circular thing that...' :huh:

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Transom surround? No. 18th Century telly for those long sea trips.

 

Tony

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Hey there Tony, would you believe I was thinking that it looked TV shaped too, but thought better of mentioning it..as I would imagine that late1700's TV was pretty boring through lack of proper funding with there being a war on and what-not..  :mellow:  :mellow:  :P

 

Kester: I probably will plank the transom before attaching the 'S.O.C.T.T.A.T.T.O.O.T.T.' (for short) then sand the planks down a lot so they don't bulk up the area too much before attaching the 'S.O.C..you get the idea..T.T' :P

I had a notion of painting the Transom black, but with it planked and left natural it might look great in contrast to the walnut of the 'S.O.C.T.. etc.T.T.'  ,   I shall have to cogitate at length on this.. 

 

Hey there Nigel, I had just posted this when I spotted your post, Transom Surround it is so.. much more succinct than 'S.O.C.T.T and so on T.T.' :P  I will be doing the 'poly' experimentation shortly, I see a nice matt polyurethane in a local shop, but I am still amazed at the difference in price between Amazon (UK) and the U.S.

 

Thanks for stopping by folks and for the advice.

 

Sail 'er Easy

 

Eamonn

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Ok Folks.. Small Photo Update (just to show that I haven't forgotten you)

 

Transom Planked, Lower Transom Planked and a full Strake of planking done each side !

 

I wanted to get the lower Transom planked before continuing with the Strakes, as I wanted the strakes to overlap the Transom planks.. if you follow!

The newest strake on both sides is a wider plank as there was a bit of shaping to be done on it towards the bow and at the meeting of the transom.. it is also a Full Plank.. ie not  my scale plank lengths (all this area will be painted anyhoo) But in keeping with the suggestion of Kester (to continue with the Scale Planks all the way to the keel) I shall put a subtle 'notch' in the appropriate place to simulate Butt's.  Don't know about ye Guys 'n Gals but I found that the individual Scale Planking (8.5 cm lengths at this scale) was taking an absolute age!! I was spending as much time laying a single length as I was laying a Full length.. That Might Just Be Me Though :blush:  :rolleyes:

 

By The Way, there is enough Pegs, Pins & Clamps in these shots to keep everyone's attention, with the addition of some discrete Rubber Band action too for the real aficionado's (You Know Who Ye All Are.. For Shame)

 

All The Best Folks

 

Eamonn

 

 

 

 

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Hey There Nigel,  thanks for dropping by with some welcome advice mate, always appreciated.. yea, that last laid 'wide' plank will allow me to complete the transitions more easily, laying it in the 'Full' has smoothened out the run too (at least I hope) and as a result things should pick up now speed wise. 

Tapering began at the bow a few plank ago, weirdly I didn't need much if any tapering at the stern in the 1st layer!, will have to keep an eye on it with this layer though.

 

Were you watching the Rugby at the weekend? looks like England or Ireland for the 6 Nations, with England having the potentially much easier last game! Typical !! ^_^

 

Eamonn

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Looking great Eamon, I think the plank tapering Nigel suggests is well worth it, you've done such a grand job already on the top planks.  Try to enjoy it, bizarrely I'm looking forward to my next planking challenge, whatever that proves to be  :)

 

As for the rubber bands, down with this sort of thing!

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Hey There Guys,  I was deffo getting the 50p effect Nigel but I addressed it with a Scraper Thingy (A Stanley Blade held at the top in a special gripper type of affair) which I pushed straight down onto the offending 50p edge and cut it off  :P (erm Nigel Mate.. wots a Riffler File ? though I did run a needle file along it a few times to even things out a bit, still a complete pain in the 'stern') :huh:

 

Jason.. Looking forward to planking !!! you sadist ^_^ (admittedly planking is probably a Summer Holiday compared to rigging!!)

Rubber Bands.. Careful Now ! :P

 

I'll be going over to the Walnut Kit supplied planks shortly, though I hear that they are Brutal (Irishism for not very good at all.. ^_^ )

 

Thanks for checking in and for all the Likes folks

 

Eamonn

 

BTW Nigel & Jason I was over on 'Name the Ship' for a few goes, missed ye guys over there..  There wasn't an Arklow Rowboat to be seen!

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Nice work Eamonn, especially the last shot of the telly – sorry, transom, half hidden though it is by your delightfully arranged rubber bands.

Good advice from Nigel to keep your planks straight, as scale length planks tend to need a bit of linear adjusting. :)

 

As for your last paragraph in post 277, I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to. :huh:

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Hi Kester, thanks for stopping by, I'm back on more familiar ground now with full length planks, but as I mentioned I'll keep your suggestion (at least in spirit) by putting a little 'notch' into then to simulate butt ends.. reckon I'd be still planking this time next Christmas if I were to continue with Scale Planks :P  couple of planks let them dry, next day couple of planks let them dry (it was taking 2 days to do a single strake.. ;) as I mentioned though that that might just have been me and my 'super' planking skills!! !)

 

Oh and Regards 277.. your secret is safe with me!! ;)  I'll never tell !!

 

Take Care

 

Eamonn

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Ahhh now I'm with you.. have some ordered already would you believe, didn't know what they were called mind you! (coming from the States together with one of Chucks C18th Longboats, they were both going for half nuttin so couldn't say no.. € 35 to the door!)

I'll probably find I too have an allergy to Walnut Planking but for a different reason to you bud.. :huh:  perhaps I'll continue down with the present stuff after-all, though it would be a shame to waste the Walnut ! Oh Well.

 

All The Best Nigel

 

Eamonn

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Totally agree Nigel, that is a give away price (I have or rather will have when Longboat arrives 4 kits in the stash)

 

Have to dash dinner ready

 

Eamonn

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Eammon

 

Looking good!  You're at (what I call) the 'Cinderella' stage of your build, where the personality of your build starts to come out.  The fun part!  I'm still deciding what I'll build next, I have six in the closet (including the 18thC longboat) and #7 is on it's way.  Any more and I will have to start attending meetings for 'Model Ship Builders Anonymous.'

 

I agree with Nigel and Kester about the poly, use the stuff in the can!  It's the exact same stuff.  The stuff in the can will start to thicken after a couple of years, but at that price, it's cheaper to buy a new can and take the old one to the recycling center. 

 

I like the species of walnut I'm using on this build sooooo much better.  It's darker in color with a cast of gray and has a tight grain.  On a prior build, that walnut species was reddish brown in color and the grain was open, causing the dreaded splintering (and it was a pain to work with.)

 

The last time I had a really good kebab was when I was in Manchester.  There's a place just south of the Manchester velodrome and the shop was open late.  YUM!

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Anyone thought of building a plank on bulkhead kebab shop? No? :D

 

Drat! Eamonn saw through my scheme to pursuade him to go for scale planks! :(

 

Btw, Dee Dee, I don't think I said anything about Poly – wipe on, wipe off, perch sitting, or any other sort – but if it works for you... :huh:

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Hi Eamonn

 

Just checking in on your build, your planking sure is looking good along with your transom. Your little schooner is showing some very nice lines, keep up the great work and ,       ENJOY.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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Hi Lawrence, Thanks for the compliment, have to say though that she is nothing compared to your Vikki !  especially if we start to compare Transom's .. :huh:  :P

 

All The Very Best

 

Eamonn

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All Righty Then, some more fascinating updates from The Ballyhooer !! exciting ain't it :huh:

 

Well the planking march down the hull towards final victory is on-going.. I have measured and found that I am now well below the Wale line and am almost at the Waterline so it is near change over time to Walnut planking (I don't want to use up all the 'Good' stuff in areas that will be painted, The Wales and the area between them and the Waterline will be black, and there will be a little 1 or 2mm black strip of timber between the Wale and the Capping Rail)

By The Way I also removed the Bulkhead Extension Pieces, just need to be sanded level now. Heady Stuff Eh?

 

And on that Bombshell it's photo time ..  Oh the excitement  Woo Hoo.. :mellow:  :mellow:

 

All The Very Best Folks.

 

Eamonn

 

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Thanks Guys, I might put one more of these timber strakes on before moving over to the dreaded Walnut !!

 

Can't wait to see what you have lined up next Mike, and what your Trim work will be like Nigel (detail galore no doubt!)

 

All The Best Guys

 

Eamonn

 

Oh, and Thanks for the Likes too Nigel & Kester !

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Thanks for that Nigel.. I didn't know about them sanding differently or that the Walnut would interfere with the Maple WOW !!! (I am down to a couple of lengths of Maple, it was cut into 2 for posting so am only able to get one strake per go, unless I resort to various different lengths.. that said I have a few runs of the original 1st planking wood available so I shall continue with that)

Best of luck with the Ebony work

 

Sail 'er Easy Mate

 

Eamonn

BTW that leaves me with loads of Walnut.. I know.. I'll send it all to you!! :mellow:  :mellow: :mellow:  am always thinking of my friends like that you see... :huh:  

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Hot Breaking News... (Cue busy & Important music)...

 

2nd Planking Complete... More news and Photos to follow as soon as they come in..

 

 

(Cue Busy & Important Music again.. fade out) :mellow:  :mellow:

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Hi Eamonn

 

That is great news on the completion of your second planking will be waiting for a picture up date. I believe you said you used maple wood for the upper planking, how did you find it to work with and also how thick was it.?  As you know I a searching for hull plans for a fishing schooner the Annie M. Parker that my great Grandfather commanded in the early 1900s . Been kind of thinking that maple for the hull might be a nice touch,                                                   Enjoy.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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