cog Posted April 16, 2016 Share #1771 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Mark, Despite Robin's findings on the coat, you have made an enormous improvement - the coat too, as it was missing in your initial setup ... To take another try at that rudder coat seems the rght thing to do ... however, have you considered why the rudder coat might be left off in those other builds ... maybe it had to do with the unnatural look at the scale due to the limitations of the fabric ... you might consider a cooking adage: If it's not good (enough), don't put it on the plate ... would you really miss it if it's not on ... Cheers Edited April 16, 2016 by cog CaptainSteve, Bill Hime, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted April 16, 2016 Share #1772 Posted April 16, 2016 Mark, I think your rudder redo has been quite successfully redone...."done" being the operative word. I think the coat is a good representation whether you take a another stab at or not. Perhaps a Coleman lantern mantel dyed in tea would give it the sagging heaviness of weathered canvas. Thread count or size would not be as important to the scale as would the cloths ability to "hang". She's looking quite beautiful my friend, you're courting her well Bill GLakie, robin b, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted April 16, 2016 Share #1773 Posted April 16, 2016 I am by no means an authority on rudder-coats Mark, but yours seems to look fine and match it's surrounding area to me! Having said that, I'd have to ask if, in reality, it wouldn't be a darker, more tar-like color? robin b, Omega1234, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted April 16, 2016 Share #1774 Posted April 16, 2016 Hi ya Mark, Found a pic I took of l'Hermione's rudder coat and the security chain details. I think your present coat looks darn good, but if you want to do a re-do, a picture might be worth something to you. I know l'Hermione was 25 years after Licorne, but things didn't change all that quickly, back then. It's greased, sewn, leather. The maitre d'equipage (sailing master/bosun) says it's quite rugged, long-wearing, and flexible, so long as it's conditioned/greased regularly. Today, they use a Lexol type conditioner, but back in the day they would use the grease skimmed of the top of the soup vats (like British Navy slush) and hang poor Pierre out the stern port with a bucket of the stuff and a hand mop. John aviaamator, Piet, Elijah and 18 others 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 16, 2016 Share #1775 Posted April 16, 2016 Rudder coats are tricky things to get right Mark particularly at model scale, it's a fine line between unnatural and untidy. If anything I think yours could perhaps do with a tad more filling out to give the impression of 'bag' to allow movement without strain, easier said than done I know, but I've every confidence in your ability to get one that suits Licorne and your eye Regards, B.E. Elijah, robin b, CaptainSteve and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share #1776 Posted April 17, 2016 Thanks for the "likes", the "comments", and the help. The rudder coat hasn't been forgottten. I've been distracted by household project and probably will continue to be for a couple of weeks. Plus there's the quarter galleries research and figuring them out. I'm looking at a couple of ideas based on my skill level and what I can push on... From worst case to best case... worst: take them off, almost as bad: leave as is. These two are unacceptable to me. So best options are 1) totally re-do. 2) Add the draping via bog paper and glue. 3) And lastly, try painting with highlights and lowlights. I'm still researching this thing but it appears that it falls under the "standard practices" of the time and there's not much said. So I'm investigating option 2)... I think I can do that and give it some drape and "wrinkles". Being French, some things were lost in the Revolution and then more during WWII. What I have is that during this time frame it was canvas, tarred. I've looked at pine tar which is closest thing I can find to Stockholm Tar, and it's definitely not black. Leather has been mentioned but at this point in time, canvas seems prevalent. The shape the material was cut to is also never mentioned or shown. The only source/bit of information with any detail has so far been the TFFM books. Elijah, CaptainSteve, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share #1777 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks Robin. I have seen that one. I think my problem is wrapping my mind around what would the coat look like if it were removed from the rudder and laid flat. I think I can make it look right, just need to find the time to play with materials and fiddly bits. Edited April 17, 2016 by mtaylor Piet, Omega1234, cog and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted April 17, 2016 Share #1778 Posted April 17, 2016 It probably wouldn't lay very flat with all that gunk on it! If you have The Fully Framed Model, Volume II, there is a plan of a rudder coat (British, but the French couldn't have been that different) on page 289 with description of how it was put together and installed. robin b, GLakie, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share #1779 Posted April 17, 2016 I used that as one of main references, Druxey as it was the only reference I could find. I'll keep wrestling with it until I get it right. cog, CaptainSteve, Piet and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted April 18, 2016 Share #1780 Posted April 18, 2016 good to see your attempt at making the rudder coat........sad to see that your not happy with it. I agree that it's not an easy aspect to add given the scale. I like what you've done.......I only took one stab with the one I did for the Gothenborg.....and I painted it with flat enamel. fingers crossed that you'll get better results, should you choose to redo GLakie, Elijah, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share #1781 Posted April 18, 2016 Hold fire.. hold fire... I just had a light bulb moment. The two working neurons I have left just talked to each other. I've got one made up that I'm tweaking but so far it looks like it'll fill the bill. I just realized that I'm not "blousing the coat" like one blouses one's pants in the military.... CaptainSteve, Elijah, Jack12477 and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share #1782 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) I think I got it. Or are at least darn close. If not, I'll do another one. Edited April 18, 2016 by mtaylor cog, WackoWolf, Canute and 38 others 41 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted April 18, 2016 Share #1783 Posted April 18, 2016 Trying to duplicate this material is difficult because the softness of the scale. A different approach would be to use wood where you can use a knife to add as many folds as you want. Martin W, CaptainSteve, dgbot and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share #1784 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Hmm.... Here's the area that needs the rudder coat... between the two red areas. It's fairly long. There's two "slots" on each side of the stern post. Maybe if I fill those in..... ???? In fact, I think that will do the trick. It was a very bad decision on my part to plank the counter before installing the stern post. Lesson learned. Edited April 18, 2016 by mtaylor Martin W, IgorSky, UpstateNY and 22 others 25 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #1785 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) On my royal caroline, I used a tissue paper for blow the nose of which I removed one folds and to add some diluted wood glue has the water and of the brown gouache, after drying the result is nice Edited April 18, 2016 by ofencer29350 Canute, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 7 others 10 Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 18, 2016 Share #1786 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Can you not take a piece of leather Mark ?? You can get it in each colour and you can shape it very easy..... Sjors Edited April 18, 2016 by Sjors Piet, mtaylor, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share #1787 Posted April 18, 2016 Thanks for looking in. Robin's post on the length of the coat is what tripped my trigger and made me re-think things. Thanks Robin. I'm going to try the cloth one last time, just because. I do have silkspan waiting in the wings. But first, I need to fix that counter area and I do have a plan and also need to clean up the glue spots on the rudder. As mentioned by Gaetan, wood is a possibility. Sjors, I think leather would be too thick and stiff. I am grateful for the advice and the extra sets of eyes. The wood is forgiving and fixable and I do remind myself of that. WackoWolf, Canute, Martin W and 12 others 15 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted April 18, 2016 Share #1788 Posted April 18, 2016 Mark, sculpy? Or something similar? Sam Elijah, Omega1234, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1789 Posted April 19, 2016 I think a Coleman lantern mantel would be interesting, even if doubled up and stained correctly Bill Elijah, Piet, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1790 Posted April 19, 2016 the space your referring to Mark is needed for rudder movement.........maybe it's just me, but I think you've done better by this one. it got the wrinkling, and the fold around the end to give the impression that it's attached to the rudder further into the fold. I wouldn't change it. Omega1234, Elijah, WackoWolf and 7 others 10 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1791 Posted April 19, 2016 Mark, If the leather is to stiff just chew on it and it will get flexible...... Sjors Elijah, GLakie, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnick Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1792 Posted April 19, 2016 Hi Mark Do you have B. Frohlich's book? Might be worth looking in there to see if he says how he has done it. If I remember I'll look this evening. Great work by the way! Your dedication to get it right is an example for all of us to follow! Nick GLakie, mtaylor, Elijah and 5 others 8 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1793 Posted April 19, 2016 Your rudder coat's going to be even greater Mark! GLakie, WackoWolf, slow2cool and 4 others 7 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share #1794 Posted April 19, 2016 Thanks for the suggestions and the advice. I'm working with the jig and trying some things. Wood is still an option. On my royal caroline, I used a tissue paper for blow the nose of which I removed one folds and to add some diluted wood glue has the water and of the brown gouache, after drying the result is nice Yes tisshu is very good and if one is carfull keeping an eye on the drying one canmanipulait it to. Slow tiller.movement robin That's my test for today, Robin and Frenchy. I'm testing on the jig. O now I recognize an arch bodger when I see one,tacked one to know one,I am a master of bodging now I know we have some thing more incomon as well as stubern old hits.well I'm old robin and a git When in doubt... we just bodge away, Robin. Mark, sculpy? Or something similar?Sam I'm giving that some serious thought, Sam. It was on my "drop dead" list. I"ll be going to Michael's tomorrow and I'll see what's needed to cure it out and also, if it will take glue or epoxy to secure it. I think a Coleman lantern mantel would be interesting, even if doubled up and stained correctly Bill The weave on those is huge, Bill, for the scale I'm working at. I'm dealing with something that's about 3/4" diameter at the counter and 1/2" tall on the aft side. The fore side is only 1/8" tall. the space your referring to Mark is needed for rudder movement.........maybe it's just me, but I think you've done better by this one. it got the wrinkling, and the fold around the end to give the impression that it's attached to the rudder further into the fold. I wouldn't change it. Too late, Denis. Ripped it off already. Mark, If the leather is to stiff just chew on it and it will get flexible...... Sjors Leather jerky, Sjors? I was thinking boil it and then make soup. Hi Mark Do you have B. Frohlich's book? Might be worth looking in there to see if he says how he has done it. If I remember I'll look this evening. Great work by the way! Your dedication to get it right is an example for all of us to follow! Nick Nick, I looked and only saw the finished product, not a "how" on his method.... I'll have to look again. Your rudder coat's going to be even greater Mark! Thanks, Elijah. I'm hoping... and I won't stop until it is better. cog, gjdale, GLakie and 10 others 13 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnick Posted April 19, 2016 Share #1795 Posted April 19, 2016 Hi Mark You're right. He's only got a "and here's one I made earlier!" ... oh well the thought was there. Nick GLakie, mtaylor, Piet and 5 others 8 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share #1796 Posted April 19, 2016 I appreciate it, Nick. I've run into a lot of that "here it is" thing. GLakie, fnick, Elijah and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share #1797 Posted April 20, 2016 I think this pretty close... Here's the jig I've been using along with a pattern. I've cut out the coat from thin cloth that has a light brown stain to emulate the Stockholm Tar and have started the installaton. It's been folded down for trimming and gluing. And the final gluedown. It bulges nicely but still needs a bit trimming after the glue sets. The rudder is a slight angle to port and puts just bit twist to the coat. I think I'm onto the quarter galleries.... Landrotten Highlander, Blue Ensign, Piet and 39 others 42 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted April 20, 2016 Share #1798 Posted April 20, 2016 ACE'S MARK!!! Nice going brother man... CaptainSteve, Piet, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnick Posted April 20, 2016 Share #1799 Posted April 20, 2016 That's the one! Spot on! GLakie, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted April 20, 2016 Share #1800 Posted April 20, 2016 Looks good, Mark. The cloth weave looks like a used clothes dryer sheet. I knew you'd do it! :) mtaylor, GLakie, slow2cool and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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