clearway Posted March 8, 2015 Share #211 Posted March 8, 2015 Trial and error is sometimes what it is all about Boyd- glad you found the right look you are happy with. Steps look brill m8. Keith GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share #212 Posted April 13, 2015 It,s been a while since my last post . Work ,life and if i,m honest a bit of a lull in interest has meant progress has been slow . Excuses over ,i have finally sorted out the chainplates ,after waiting 3 weeks for an out of stock strap i decided to make my own ( thanks Paul ) . After a couple of attempts i used the straps provided , the pic will explain better than i can I,m happy with the result and think i might leave the brass pin heads as they are rather than blacken them as was the plan ? Also fitted a few strips ,rails ,not sure of correct name , I tried to make the currly bits without success so made it up as i went along ,they aren,t that noticable anyway ? A couple more pics to show anything i forgot to mention As a change and prep for the next stage i started making the mast platforms ( again not sure of correct name ). I sanded the ply provided covered it with 0.5 cherry and then scratched everthing else from Dibetou , i think the contrast in these 2 woods works ? I,m beginning to think 3 years for this build was being a bit hopefull but after every low comes a high so maybe progress will improve soon ???? msberkman, knotty74, etubino and 4 others 7 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted April 13, 2015 Share #213 Posted April 13, 2015 Glad to see you back in your shipyard Boyd! Almost forgot how good she looks! Almost! The chainplates look great, and I like the bare brass pins against the natural wood planking as well. Hope everything's good there. Cheers Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share #214 Posted April 13, 2015 ty George . It just takes me a while to get to where i like to be . GLakie 1 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philg88 Posted April 13, 2015 Share #215 Posted April 13, 2015 Hey Boyd, we missed you! Glad you're back to show us more shining examples of the model shipbuilder's art. Cheers, Philip shihawk and GLakie 2 Quote Completed builds:USS Constitution Artesania Latina Le Hussard (1848) King of the Mississippi - Artesania Latina - 1:80 Scale with LEDs http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9777-king-of-the-mississippi-by-philg88-artesania-latina-scale-180-with-internal-and-navigation-led-lighting Current builds: HMS Victory - Billing Boats - 1:75 Scale http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9832-hms-victory-by-philg88-billing-boats-scale-175/>HMS Warrior (1860) - Billing Boats - 1:100 Scale http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13139-hms-warrior-1860-by-philg88-billing-boats-scale-1100-first-british-ironclad-with-scratch-built-side-heads-per-prototype/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted April 13, 2015 Share #216 Posted April 13, 2015 ty George . It just takes me a while to get to where i like to be . I think they call that "creative expression", and with me, when it comes, I squeeze what I can out of it while it lasts. It must be like a feral cat----comes and goes when it wants to. shihawk 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 13, 2015 Share #217 Posted April 13, 2015 Very nice Boyd - I really like your interpretation in this build. As for time / speed of build, just remember that it's not a race and there are no deadlines to meet. 3 years would be a very fast build in my books (says he who took 19 years for this ship). GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 14, 2015 Share #218 Posted April 14, 2015 The tops look great Boyd welcome back m8 GLakie, shihawk and Mike Dowling 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share #219 Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks all for the kind coments and likes , .I haven,t really been away ,been checkin up on you all when i got the chance . Just lost my way a little ,might be the stage of the build ? ,so lay low for a bit to recharge and think i,m back on track . Even considered starting another build for a short while and then as usual thought again and decided i must finish this one first !!! Been working on the deck cannons ,i had to order 8 new ones as the kit only provided 2 for the top decks ,anyone else a few short ?? GLakie and Philg88 2 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotty74 Posted April 15, 2015 Share #220 Posted April 15, 2015 Hi Boyd, She's looking absolutely marvellous! Well done, mate. I had kits for 20 cannon carriages with mine. 18 cannon barrels though. 10 for the lower deck, 2 for the forecastle (along with the 2 carronades) and 6 for the quarterdeck, around the location of the stairs and ships wheel. Have you used more than you were supposed to on the lower deck where you recessed your gun ports? Chris GLakie 1 Quote Current build: HMS Victory - Billings Boats - 1:75 (first ever ship build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share #221 Posted April 15, 2015 Cris , i to had 18 cannons provided .It took 16 for the lower deck ,which only left 2 for the forecastle and none for the quarterdeck ??.So you could be correct in the assumption that i overdid it on the lower deck by 3 each side . will have to check later when near the plans ? At 29p each from Amati they look better than the Billings ! GLakie 1 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotty74 Posted April 15, 2015 Share #222 Posted April 15, 2015 That'll be it then, Boyd. Your missing 6 are on your lower deck! Where did you get the Amati ones from for that price, please? I've looked but they're a lot more than that where I've seen them. GLakie 1 Quote Current build: HMS Victory - Billings Boats - 1:75 (first ever ship build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 15, 2015 Share #223 Posted April 15, 2015 Yep if following the destructions only 10 "full" cannons needed for the upper gun deck, six for the quater deck and two for the fore deck Keith GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share #224 Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Keith ,I stopped reading the destructions a long time ago so that would explain it ,and to think i wasted all that time fully rigging them ? Chris ,i just checked and CMB still have the cannons at 29p. They need a little clean up and they ain,t brass but as i will be painting them with gunmetal they will do the job .it,s just the barrels not the carriage !!! Edited April 15, 2015 by shihawk GLakie and clearway 2 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotty74 Posted April 15, 2015 Share #225 Posted April 15, 2015 Ah, explains that one then! Cheers. GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Current build: HMS Victory - Billings Boats - 1:75 (first ever ship build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share #226 Posted April 20, 2015 Dispite an earlier comment that i would leave the final run of the chainplates until i had the masts fixed i decided to go ahead and finish them at this stage and hope that my calculations are at least near correct , Time will tell ?? I went with the homemade straps to finish the chainplates and so far am happy with the result . Finished 1 cannon just to figure out the process , very similiar to the previous ones with a few simplifications last pic shows prep work for the gun carriages knotty74, clearway, Philg88 and 5 others 8 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted April 20, 2015 Share #227 Posted April 20, 2015 She looks great with all her chainplates in place Boyd! Still can't get past the over-all shots of her and how marvelous this ship really is! Cheers shihawk and Mike Dowling 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 21, 2015 Share #228 Posted April 21, 2015 She's really looking lovely Boyd. GLakie, Mike Dowling and shihawk 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Dog Posted April 21, 2015 Share #229 Posted April 21, 2015 few pics of my atempt at Victory stripes and before anyone points it out i know the wales are not exactly where they should but it was the only way in my limited experience i could figure out how to do it without paint . Im happy with the overall result except for the gunports ,in hindsight i should not have tried finishing them before fitting the wales as quite a few now need realinement and i don,t want them to look patched up IMG_0507.JPG IMG_0514.JPG i rubed a small sectionwith damp cloth to show nearer color when varnished IMG_0511.JPG Not happy with lining for gunports ,they aren,t definite enough so may change to a different better edged wood , more experimenting necessary IMG_0509.JPG IMG_0512.JPG I think i asumed that it needed to be a redish wood but may now consider a different color as the rest of the build isn,t the proper colors anyway ,In a way its very liberating not to have to follow a set of strict plans or color schemes!!! And I think that's the way it should be. If every person tried to build every ship the way the actual ship looked, it would be a very boring bunch of models. I think putting in some of your creativity, whether it is a different paints scheme or no paint at all, is what makes models so cool. I love to see other people's ideas and creativity. Although I can certainly appreciate an "authentic" build and all the research that goes with it, I also really enjoy when people let loose and enjoy their build and build it with their interpretations. As I've gotten older, I too have broken away from the "authentic" mold and just try to have a good time. I love your natural colors! GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted April 21, 2015 Share #230 Posted April 21, 2015 I think your boat looks brilliant as well ! GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share #231 Posted April 21, 2015 Thanks all . Salty dog ,i,m glad you agree with my reasoning ,and as i mentioned before there is no real plan which is one of the reasons for my some times lack of progress . I try something and if it don,t look right to me i try something else ,bit of a pain but that seems to be the only way . gjdale, clearway and GLakie 3 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 21, 2015 Share #232 Posted April 21, 2015 it's all about trial and error and getting it right for you Boyd- she is looking great m8 Keith shihawk and GLakie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 21, 2015 Share #233 Posted April 21, 2015 That's a great approach Boyd, and one that will bring you a lot more satisfaction with the end result. Keep up the great work. GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share #234 Posted May 11, 2015 Although it,s a long time since i posted i don,t have a lot of progress to show due mainly to wasting a lot of the limited time available trying things that in the end didn,t work out , but that,s life . My intention had been to fully rig the cannons on the top deck and show them pulled in , that is with the breeching rope fully extended , just for a change ! After several failed attempts i could not produce anything that looked the part so returned to a simpliar version of a pic i seen somewhere and decided to forget about the side and train tackles ,although i may return to them at a later stage ?? In attempting to save time i also simplfied the cannon on the forward deck ,i may regret these shortcuts later but if i,m ever to finish this build i can,t keep getting bogged down in detail that even if seen may not be noticable ,hence my topic on how much detail is too much . My intentions sometimes exceed my abilities and frustration kicks in !!! Next i tried the fire buckets and again after much time wasting decided i could probably live without them ?? But don,t rule them out just yet . On to the hammock netting and finally after a couple of false starts i produced something i,m happy with . I even checked the instructions but they just vagely suggested that they were made from wire strip . The simplest way i could make was from 0.75 brass wire .Once i had the basic shape i flattened the ends and the base ,then drilled the ends and a pin hole in the base to attach it to the caprail . then threaded wire through which hopefully i will be able to attach the netting . The netting provided was green and i thought to heavy so will be replaced with i think it,s called troule ,can be seen in pic Hope my next post on progress won,t be as long and that my new more simplistic view to the build will not come back to bite me ??????? knotty74, CaptainSteve, Mike Dowling and 4 others 7 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted May 11, 2015 Share #235 Posted May 11, 2015 Your hammock stanchions look great Boyd, and from looking at what you've already accomplished, I believe your intentions are producing some fantastic results. Cheers shihawk 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philg88 Posted May 12, 2015 Share #236 Posted May 12, 2015 Nice job with the hammock cranes, Boyd. You'll soon be on to the masts and rigging then she'll finally be done ... Cheers, Philip GLakie and shihawk 2 Quote Completed builds:USS Constitution Artesania Latina Le Hussard (1848) King of the Mississippi - Artesania Latina - 1:80 Scale with LEDs http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9777-king-of-the-mississippi-by-philg88-artesania-latina-scale-180-with-internal-and-navigation-led-lighting Current builds: HMS Victory - Billing Boats - 1:75 Scale http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9832-hms-victory-by-philg88-billing-boats-scale-175/>HMS Warrior (1860) - Billing Boats - 1:100 Scale http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13139-hms-warrior-1860-by-philg88-billing-boats-scale-1100-first-british-ironclad-with-scratch-built-side-heads-per-prototype/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted May 12, 2015 Share #237 Posted May 12, 2015 Well done with the hammock cranes Boyd. The material you refer to is called Tulle. What you have pictured has a 'honeycomb' pattern - I believe a 'diamond' pattern would be more correct. If you have trouble finding some, I have about 50 lifetime's worth of the stuff (used on my Victory). I'd be happy to send some to you if you wish - just PM me with your postal address if you'd like some. GLakie and knotty74 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share #238 Posted May 12, 2015 Tks all . Grant thanks for the offer if but i think it,s readily available localy .didn,t know it came in different patterns. GLakie and gjdale 2 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 12, 2015 Share #239 Posted May 12, 2015 Looking good Boyd- i cheated and have a set of the mantua 1/78 hammock cranes on the way from cornwall model boats- the fret also has the lamp irons by the look of it. Keith shihawk and GLakie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share #240 Posted May 21, 2015 Managed to get hold of some diamond shaped Tulle , thanks Grant ,i now also have a lifetime supply for £3.00 .i wish everything was as cheap ? Used as fine a black thread as i could find and threaded the tulle in place .finished with the desired effect although my work was not as neat as i would have liked but will do better on the other side . Before fitting the netting on the other side i spent some time trying to figure out what to do about the gun port lids . I had previously made a few samples from strips of the darker wood but decided that they should be made from a lighter wood and as i had 10mm beech available i took the easier method and made them from a single piece . I shaped the sides and will fit them with a small pin to hold them in place untill the glue sets I have tried several different sorts of hindges and rather than spend £50.00 on fancy brass ones i looked at the ply ones supplied and decided that by spliting along the ply lines i could finish up with something slimer and more realistic . i will however have to paint them . last pic shows the painted dummy guns yet to be fitted the lids in the pics are not glued and held in place by the pin ,i won,t glue untill hindges and rings etc have been fitted but gives some idea of the finished look . gjdale, GLakie, knotty74 and 5 others 8 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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