*Hans* Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #91 Posted April 30, 2014 Just a nice picture made during our modellers meeting last april. Sjors, hexnut, MarisStella.hr and 4 others 7 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share #92 Posted May 1, 2014 I'm going up and down in the things I'm doing. Stopped with the rigging and started with the rudder: Out of a beech stir stick for paint I made the rudder (two layers glued on each onder. The smaller part was a square stick of balsa in the right dimension. After that a small brass strip cut in the right dimension, and soldered brass pins on it: Then the strip made in the right lenght: drilled holes in it (1 mm) and with small nails attached the hinges to the rudder: The other part of the hinge - which goes on the ship (excuses for the bad photo) And finaly the rudder completed - all the hinges on it - made dark with some brass-black. I just have to fill out the small gaps on the front side of the rudder - between the hinges Aussie048, Tecko, flying_dutchman2 and 3 others 6 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted May 1, 2014 Share #93 Posted May 1, 2014 Very nicely done Hans, I love the picture from your meeting, she looks absolutely splendid. Well done mate, keep up this terrific work. Be Good Mobbsie *Hans* 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prutser Posted May 1, 2014 Share #94 Posted May 1, 2014 Hello Hans. It is becoming a beautiful model. Do you remember the Batavia 1:75 model in the Dutch "Modelbouwer" years ago in which Mr Hans Zeller from Switzerland showed his progresses . He used filler pieces of limewood between the bulkheads .Good building and regards, Richard *Hans* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share #95 Posted May 1, 2014 Hello Hans. It is becoming a beautiful model. Do you remember the Batavia 1:75 model in the Dutch "Modelbouwer" years ago in which Mr Hans Zeller from Switzerland showed his progresses . He used filler pieces of limewood between the bulkheads .Good building and regards, Richard Hello Prutser No - I don't know this model from Mr. Zeller - sorry Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #96 Posted May 2, 2014 In the galleries on both sides of the ship where the toilets for the higher ranking people on the ship. The "sewers" of these toilets where just simple pieces of copperpipe A took a small piece of brass tube - some brownishing on it and mounted this under the galleries: Aussie048, Piet, Elmer Cornish and 2 others 5 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted May 3, 2014 Share #97 Posted May 3, 2014 Don't forget the soft ropes with the frayed ends that dangled in the water so they could pull them up and wash their backsides when they finished. *Hans* 1 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 4, 2014 Share #98 Posted May 4, 2014 In the galleries on both sides of the ship where the toilets for the higher ranking people on the ship. The "sewers" of these toilets where just simple pieces of copperpipe Hans; You are the first person that adds that detail to a ship. It is necessary and many a sailor fell through the hole in the ocean and drowned. On another note. The details on the Batavia are beautiful. You are pretty much adding everything that is on the replica and probably on the original ship. Marc *Hans* 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #99 Posted May 4, 2014 Hans; You are the first person that adds that detail to a ship. It is necessary and many a sailor fell through the hole in the ocean and drowned. On another note. The details on the Batavia are beautiful. You are pretty much adding everything that is on the replica and probably on the original ship. Marc Marc, I do have a lot of photos of the Batavia, so I can add pretty much of al these details, yes. If she is the same as the original is only guessing. The craftsman under which the Batavia was build - Willem Vos - did use a lot of his own imagination and intepretation on how ships where build in the 17th century. He just did call her the Batavia because he had read about the voyage of the Batavia. The ship could have easily be named "Willem Vos" as well... flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share #100 Posted May 7, 2014 I bought me some ribbon in the Dutch flag colours for the diverse flags and pennants on the ship. However, it turned out that the largest ribbon still was to small for the main flag on the rear of the ship, so with some paint and thin cotton sheet I have made a flag myself. Nowadays the Dutch flag is the well known red white blue but during the tachtig jarige oorlog (the 80 year war with Spain - 1568-1648 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War) the Orange family became stronger. The Dutch flag at that time was moreless introduced by de Geuzen - the underground movement against the Spanish rulers (when you translate Geuzen you get Beggars - and in fact they where the poor people of Holland which started revolting against the Spanish). They had choosen a flag with an orange uppercolor - Oranje Boven - or Orange rules! This flag was called Oranje Blanje Bleu - a loose translation of the French Orange-blanc-bleu which described the colours. In the period up to around 1630 the official Dutch flag then was this Oranje blanje bleu, and there are diffirent storeys why this in the end changed into the red-white-blue which we have now - f.i.: - The orange was a mixture of red and yellow pigment, and the yellow pigment couldnt stand the sunlight, rain etc. so the orange turned into red. - the orange colour was quitte expencive to make, so the frugal Dutch choose the red. The exact cause of changing from orange to red is not know, both flags excisted aside each other for a longer period. After 1650-1670 only the red-white-blue remained. In 1937 the Red White Blue was declared by Queen Wilhelmina as the official Dutch flag mtaylor, Elmer Cornish, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 7, 2014 Share #101 Posted May 7, 2014 I like that you added the toilet detail! Vasa have no holes but used buckets. /Matti *Hans* 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share #102 Posted May 7, 2014 The foremast with its standing rigging is done - except for the ratlines. These will follow later. Elmer Cornish, Aussie048, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted May 7, 2014 Share #103 Posted May 7, 2014 Hoi Hans, great looking model !! And thanks for the history lesson on the flag. It sure brought back memories from school having to "endure" the great history of a small nation. Cheers, *Hans* 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #104 Posted May 9, 2014 Another nice photo I'd forgotten to post. Farbror Fartyg, Mirabell61, Blue Ensign and 14 others 17 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #105 Posted May 9, 2014 Hoi Hans, great looking model !! And thanks for the history lesson on the flag. It sure brought back memories from school having to "endure" the great history of a small nation. Cheers, I guess this must have been the lagere school, or ??? flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted May 10, 2014 Share #106 Posted May 10, 2014 Hoi Hans, I guess this must have been the lagere school, or ??? Yup, and Mulo too! I like to forget those years, real stressful for me. Cheers, *Hans* 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share #107 Posted May 10, 2014 Hoi Hans, Yup, and Mulo too! I like to forget those years, real stressful for me. Cheers, Well - must have been some time ago - 1968 the Mulo changed into Mavo. Should not give any stress anymore I think flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share #108 Posted May 14, 2014 Tribute. Because my wife is a little bit afraid she is loosing me a little bit because of the Batavia (which is not true of course) i sculpted one of the heads on deck to her image: Aussie048, Krelis, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted May 15, 2014 Share #109 Posted May 15, 2014 Hello Hans, beautiful carving my friend, your wife must be very pleased with the likeness Ref to previous post, yes, my Mulo experience ended in 1950. Reason for the stressful times were associated with politics and the general "we don't care" attitudes by the powers that be. A long story but this is not the place to get into. Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share #110 Posted May 15, 2014 Although VOC - ships used to carry up to six anchors I,ve decided only to make two of them (the manufacturer didn't supply more ) One side is finished now: Piet, WackoWolf, Blue Ensign and 5 others 8 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 16, 2014 Share #111 Posted May 16, 2014 Very nice Hans ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share #112 Posted May 18, 2014 Another nice thing to make is the lantern. You can buy some standard lanterns - but these didn't match my requirements. So I started with sanding some wood in shape Then sketched the under and upper part and carved the top: With some clay made some ornaments on it - and slept a night over it. But to be honest - I didn't like it - to round, to much not what I wanted. Then I made a second version - more right up, but here I used to much glue - and it was much to big! As you can see it is over 5 cm (2 inch) high - which means in scale 1:72 a 3,5 meter lamp. Fully out of proportion. So I scrapped this lamp and started for the third time. This is so far the result - an approx. 3 cm lamp which means in real life about 2,4 meter high. Still huge, but some more in the right size. Piet, Tecko, md1400cs and 2 others 5 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share #113 Posted May 20, 2014 With this modelling clay there are always some leftovers. Of course I can throw these away, but it comes handy that I still have some carving to make on the bow: - Some say its more like a dogshead - Some say it has flappy ears - Some say it looks a little bit like it. Decide for yourself: Sorry - wrong picture. Piet, mtaylor, Tecko and 2 others 5 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 22, 2014 Share #114 Posted May 22, 2014 Nice lamp and I like the dogs head. The colors on this ship are very vivid. Marc *Hans* and Sjors 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 22, 2014 Share #115 Posted May 22, 2014 Hans, I'm not the only one who thinks that it is a dog...... @ Marc, Shame on you, it is lion !!!!!!! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #116 Posted May 22, 2014 I made some modifications on the Liondogshead - this is a little bit more like it - to my opninion And beware - otherwise I make a Sjorshead on the bow mtaylor and Elmer Cornish 2 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 22, 2014 Share #117 Posted May 22, 2014 Much better Hans !!! And you don't want my head as a figure head....... But maybe it is a good thing ? You are chasing the enemy away then !!!!!! *Hans* and mtaylor 2 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share #118 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) In the meantime on the Dutch forum we have a nice Anglo-Dutch ship discussion going on. Great fun! This however must not stop us from doing what we like to do - modelbuilding. The lantern is finished - including the little door in it to light the candle - and then mounted onto the ship. Edited May 23, 2014 by *Hans* Piet, Sjors, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBlakeny Posted May 23, 2014 Share #119 Posted May 23, 2014 Nice! Quote Chris Current builds : On hold : IJN Yamato by DeAgostini - 1/250 Completed builds : Bermuda boat Corsair (scratch) President by Sergal - 1/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share #120 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Last saturday a small group of modelbuilders where on the Bataviawharf in Lelystad - to have a glimps on the 1/10 scale model of De Zeven Provinciën they are making - nice and interesting! Another nice thing to see is the firing of the "old" canons they used on the ships: The sound on this video is acceptable - but in real it will blow your eardrums out! Edited May 25, 2014 by *Hans* Elmer Cornish, Piet, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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