src Posted August 20, 2014 Share #121 Posted August 20, 2014 Rich, She makes a great TV stand. . I know what you mean about commenting, when work gets busy sometimes all there is time for is a "like" to let people know you stopped in. Sam Rich.F 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #122 Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment,some advice or a like, Schnu, Yes the hull will be painter and the copper plates added all 4500 of them give or take. Sam, Your So right I Have finished lining the gun ports, filled sanded and painted, I happy with it atm, Might need a bit of fine tuning when I paint the Hull, Im Going to this afternoon Line the inner gun port walls so i can paint the rest of the gun ports and paint the hull. Tc Edited August 24, 2014 by Rich.f maddog33, oscarmate, src and 1 other 4 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted August 24, 2014 Share #123 Posted August 24, 2014 Looks great Rich. 4500?!?!? Yikes! thats going to be a full time job. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #124 Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Sam, Yes it is, I thought The gun ports took a while and be come tedious, Although with the brass plates I will see a change all the time. Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted August 24, 2014 Share #125 Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Rich I am about to line my gun ports and have just posted this on my log. Since doing this post I have looked at the size of the lids and they are the same size as the openings in the hull so if i do it my way all the openings need to be enlarged!!! I would appreciate your thoughts On the subject of gun port linings. I am just about to line the gun ports on the upper gun deck. I have seen much discussion on this web site and I have John McKay's, Anatomy of the Ship on Victory. Looking at this book it seems the linings on this upper deck, ports 3 to 10 have linings visible on the outside so they project forward of the first planking and the second planking runs into the side of the lining. Page 10 of the instruction manual seems to say the second planking goes over the outer edge of the linings. In this case the linings are hidden. McKay shows a similar detail on the ports with lids where one can see the out edge of the linings around the ports, with the planking again running into the side of the linings. The lids in McKay sit inside the linings. I have not yet checked to see if the lids actually fit inside the linings. It would be good practice for the linings to protect the end grain of the planking assuming marine detailing is similar the building construction. I have a problem where on my build where the line of the cills of the upper gun deck on the outer skin is lower than on the inner bulwark and the linings would slope down from inside to outside. The difference is less front and rear than in the middle. I have decided to lower the cill on the inner bulwark a little so the slope on the cill linings is less pronounced. Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #126 Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Peter, Ill copy this to your log also, on the upper gun ports, Ports number 3-10 Need to be line before you do the 2nd player of hull planking.. I found the I need to Open all the gun ports, (What I did was take a lid,part no 323-324, and use that as a template opened up before I planed the Hull) Once you have planked the hull, Line the lower 2 rows of gun ports with 1x6mm the upper ones are 1x16mm ""don't forget to set back by 1mm, As i was also informed get a few lenths of balsa strips about 3.2x3.2mm to line the inside so the linings ave something better to hold. With regards to the linings not matching up I think this is a design flaw, This is from a Post David"Shipyardsid" sent me > Trim the underside of the bulwark pattern until the outer hull and inner bulwark cills are level, then trim the top until the bulwark pattern fit in with the gun ports level. Don't worry about the bulwark patterns being a bit slack if you overdo it , It all gets planked and hidden. It's a good idea to make up a gun carriage and use the barrel as a gauge if you follow, but remember you need some planking strip under the wheels as your deck is not yet planked. Once you get the deck and bulwark patterns both planked fit a thin trim as an edging if you follow. I have added a photo to help you understand, but will delete if you tell me. Sorry to be long winded. I think this is all, If you need anythng else or cant understand me ( most people don't) LOL Give me a shout Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share #127 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like, As i have had 3 whole days of work and nothing planed, I of course spent my time watching movies and working on the ship I have now primed and painted the starboard side only. after priming re going over with filler where needed, then the top coats, Reather happy with it now. Over the next week or two, i'll work on the port side once this it done ill at the black strip so they match up. Tc all, Edited August 25, 2014 by Rich.f HIPEXEC, schnu, JPett and 2 others 5 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted August 26, 2014 Share #128 Posted August 26, 2014 Rich, Looks Real Good. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted August 26, 2014 Share #129 Posted August 26, 2014 Hi All that cutting and fitting all those hardwood strips and we then have to paint it.. At least those in the know understand how difficult this hobby is and appreciate the hard work. Your ship looks great. Well done Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share #130 Posted September 4, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like, Quarter Windows, I have done a bit of research on this, I have read what others have done, and tried my own way, I had a go at just the plastic that came with the kit. I did not get the look I wanted, I found and ordered "Micro Kristal Klear" The Pictures attached. is the first attempt, Although they are above the 1/4 inch recommended, It can be done. I'm happy with the result I'm now just waiting on the rest to dry, I'm going to give it a full two days to dry fully, ( although this does not dry to a hard finish, it is a strong rubbery. GuntherMT, src, foxy and 1 other 4 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted September 5, 2014 Share #131 Posted September 5, 2014 Rich, Judging by the picture that stuff looks pretty thick, Do you have o back it up with anything while it dries? I see in the picture you have toothpicks underneath while its still wet. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted September 5, 2014 Share #132 Posted September 5, 2014 Did you consider puting some of the frames in before using the Kristal Klear to reduce the surface area . Just a thought ! Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share #133 Posted September 6, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like, Sam> Toothpick are underneath, as my first attempt, they stuck to the table, so just wanted to lift them off. Shihawk:> good idea, going to give that at try Lawrence :> Only Time will tell. But does look nice than just plastic sheet. : I have Now added two of them, but just to busy atm with work to do any more, aill have to wait till next week to do any work. canoe21 1 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share #134 Posted September 11, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like, I have been working on these cannon base's for a few days now, Since I took the picture I have cleaned them up a bit more. Im not sure if i should use blaken it, or just hand paint.? something to think about over the weekend. I'll be working back on the main build tomorrow night. mort stoll, shihawk, Shipyard sid and 4 others 7 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted September 12, 2014 Share #135 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) rich, carriages just seem to go on and on and on dont they? You commented about blackening something in your last post, but I am unclear what? What you have look good thugh. Sam Edited September 12, 2014 by src Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted September 12, 2014 Share #136 Posted September 12, 2014 Hi I would use blacken it as I painted mine and the paint keeps flaking off, forever touching up. Nice build so far Quote Harvey Current Build: HMS Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share #137 Posted September 14, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Just a small update, base painted the Gallary Windows, With Primer and a coat of Orge Yellow. And I have started on the brass plates. Very slow atm, till I get the hang of it. Ill upload a few pictures later. Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted September 14, 2014 Share #138 Posted September 14, 2014 Looking forward to those pictures RIch. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share #139 Posted September 15, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Just a few Copper tiles to start with, 100 So far that was over 5 hours. ( was watching Tv ) foxy, peterwwebster and src 3 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted September 16, 2014 Share #140 Posted September 16, 2014 Looking great , TV is a distraction so took mine out of the workspace !!! Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share #141 Posted September 16, 2014 Hi Shihawk. Thank for stopping by. Having a Tv is a distraction. But I build in living room so I can multi task. Spend time on build. Spend time with wife. Spend time on build and catchibg up on my tv when shes working. Oh the stress of life. Lol src 1 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted September 17, 2014 Share #142 Posted September 17, 2014 As one of the new boys I like the batten to keep the plates straight but how do you align the batten? Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share #143 Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Peter, I guessed a proxamite the center, built a few planks left and right and 3 high, with about a 10" × 5X1mm strip, made sure it had not warped,(Used a mirror), Laid it on top of the few i had already glued, yep, my guide line. My plan is to finish 6 high on the starboard side and the mirror image the port, then repeate 6x high, Although,, laying in bed(2324)gmt, wondering if I should have started at the top so a nice edge patten will be visible. ?. Edited September 17, 2014 by Rich.f src 1 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted September 18, 2014 Share #144 Posted September 18, 2014 I found this high definition picture ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/HMS_Victory_%28ship%2C_1765%29_-_stern_view.JPG/1280px-HMS_Victory_%28ship%2C_1765%29_-_stern_view.JPG%C2'> on the internet which I think shows the copper plates being cut to run into the stringer as per Jokata instructions. It also shows the gun port linings well. It looks like you can drive yourself made doing this! Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted September 18, 2014 Share #145 Posted September 18, 2014 Rich, The coppering looks great to my eye! Your experiences with the Enterprise are showing up here, your applying Lessons Learned. Me likey! Your a more talented or more patient man than myself, there is no way I could work while Better Half watched TV in the same room, I cant even have a conversation with her when I am working! Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share #146 Posted September 22, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. I have received some advice and not like how the tiles have came out so far, I'm going to rip and "do a redo" I have ordered 300 tiles from CMB, Far more than needed but just in case. this time im going to take a different approach by starting at the time on the water line. If any one else has any ideas or what ever, Nows a good time to say Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted September 22, 2014 Share #147 Posted September 22, 2014 I am intrigued as to what was wrong with the way you were doing the tiling. I am not far behind you in the build so if you can spread the word!!! Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted September 22, 2014 Share #148 Posted September 22, 2014 I think the majority of us started at the top and worked down. My advice is to find a method that you are happy with then I'm sure you will get the result you desire. Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted September 22, 2014 Share #149 Posted September 22, 2014 Some use copper strips and then cut later for size. I use them for lighting and model railways, but good so I am told for this type of work, you can lay a full length, then cut to size. This is if you do not want the bolts holding the copper. Just a thought!!!! foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share #150 Posted September 22, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Peter > See Pictures Glennard > That's what I said to the wife, No ones perfect and if very one did it the same and to the book, No ship would be unique Foxy > I have see that before, I personally don't think it the look i'm after. Sam > I do try to er... keep quiet ( do i dare say it with out offending the fellow female builders) .... NO.. to scared .... foxy, Harvey and WackoWolf 3 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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