drtrap Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share #781 Posted December 4, 2015 I'm posting in advance this pic just to show you the relative height I'm about to place the upper futtock staves.... I'm still remember the revision of the lower futtock staves I have done due to their initial wrong placement.... Cheers Stergios Dimitris71, mort stoll and Beef Wellington 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted December 5, 2015 Share #782 Posted December 5, 2015 One of my friends in the club had some but I cannot see why you could not use 1mm. Mort drtrap 1 Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted December 5, 2015 Share #783 Posted December 5, 2015 No .7mm wire in the kit but I bought some 0.8mm via the internet then "drew" it through a vice to straighten and stiffen it (it came in a coil) Dave drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share #784 Posted December 18, 2015 Futtock staves almost finished. I'm thinking to continue with the placement and rigging of the upper 1/3 (trying to recall the terminology.... ) of the fore- and main-masts instead of going with the bowsprit. Any reccomendation? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #785 Posted December 19, 2015 One of my friends in the club had some but I cannot see why you could not use 1mm. Mort Thank you Mort. I've used the 1mm (unserved this time) wire. It's fine I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #786 Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Ooopppsss! After so many times it's the first one I'm seeing those shrouds cleats on the plan.... I'm not seeing cleats on the shrouds of the lower 1/3 of the masts, but I can realize that is important to be on all the shrouds..?? Edited December 19, 2015 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #787 Posted December 19, 2015 ...only 8 pieces of shroud cleats (casting) in the list of my kit... Something is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted December 19, 2015 Share #788 Posted December 19, 2015 The cleats were not required on all shrouds on the Cruiser they were only needed on the rear most shrouds as in your picture. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #789 Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) The cleats were not required on all shrouds on the Cruiser they were only needed on the rear most shrouds as in your picture. Dave Hi Dave and thank you for replying so promptly! "Snake" has five "clusters" of shrouds at each side. Three of them for the lower 1/3 parts of the fore, main and mizzen mast and the rest two for the middle 1/3 parts of the fore and main mast. So I need 10 cleats for the very posterior shroud of each cluster, or it supposed that for the mizzen mast are'nt required? Thank you. Edited December 19, 2015 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share #790 Posted December 24, 2015 I'm still trying to find out whether is obligatory to have a shour cleat on every shroud..... Merry Christmas !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted December 24, 2015 Share #791 Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry I was not clear, on the cruiser just the left and right stern most shroud on each mast, I do not know the technical terms! Petersson page 42 shows a slightly different arrangement drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share #792 Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry I was not clear, on the cruiser just the left and right stern most shroud on each mast, I do not know the technical terms! Petersson page 42 shows a slightly different arrangement Thank you again Dave. Merry Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted December 24, 2015 Share #793 Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks Stergios Merry Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share #794 Posted December 28, 2015 Well after all, I've a tendency to put shroud cleats only on the rear shrouds of the fore topmast and main topmast. I still don't know how accurate is this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share #795 Posted December 30, 2015 Shroud cleats factory... Dimitris71 and mort stoll 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share #796 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Well after all, I've a tendency to put shroud cleats only on the rear shrouds of the fore topmast and main topmast. I still don't know how accurate is this. The procedure is done. A little touch up and micro-trimming is pending... Happy and Healthy New Year to everyone! Edited January 6, 2016 by Stergios Beef Wellington, mort stoll and Davemc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share #797 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Next step the catharpins, but really there is no space for catharpins up here. I think to leave the futtock staves as they are and to proceed to the placement of the fore and main topgallant masts. If you have no objection, I consider that as my next step. Cheers. Stergios Edited January 7, 2016 by Stergios egkb and Beef Wellington 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted January 6, 2016 Share #798 Posted January 6, 2016 had a similar problem, i ended up using stretched 0.8mm brass wire for catharpins, fitted after placing the topgallant masts Dave drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share #799 Posted January 6, 2016 Next step the catharpins, but really there is no space for catharpins up here. I think to leave the futtock staves as they are and to proceed to the placement of the fore and main topgallant masts. If you have no oblection, I consider that as my next step. Cheers. Stergios Thank you Dave, and how did you attach those wire catharpins to the futtock staves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted January 6, 2016 Share #800 Posted January 6, 2016 made a hook on the ends to go around the futtock staves drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 7, 2016 Share #801 Posted January 7, 2016 Stergios, you did exactly as I did with the shroud cleats. Will all look great with the rest of the rigging in place. I've not seem catharpins on the topmast shrouds, so think you are OK to move on elsewhere. Nice progress by the way, looking great. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share #802 Posted January 7, 2016 Stergios, you did exactly as I did with the shroud cleats. Will all look great with the rest of the rigging in place. I've not seem catharpins on the topmast shrouds, so think you are OK to move on elsewhere. Nice progress by the way, looking great. Hi Jason, I'm thinking to place the topgallant masts now. I feel tha it's time for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share #803 Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Hey guys, I've two basic questions for you: 1) should I place any sisters or blocks up here? 2) blocks H and line E should be placed above or below the respective topgallant mast shrouds? Thank you in advance. Edited January 11, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share #804 Posted January 10, 2016 Knots of capstan to tie the twin "H" blocks. Watered pva to secure. Davemc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share #805 Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Proud to have all topgallant masts in place. Sometimes I feel that I'll find time to finish her.... Edited January 14, 2016 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #806 Posted January 16, 2016 Hi all! Is there any specific way to tie the three pairs of the shrouds to the top gallant masts? Thanks. Beef Wellington and jim_smits 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 16, 2016 Share #807 Posted January 16, 2016 I looped these in pairs, through the 2 rear-most holes in the cross tree and belayed them around the top-mast shrouds at the dead-eyes. That's how its shown in the Petersson book. I also decide to put ratlines on the top-gallant shrouds even though they are not shown on the plans - without them there would be no access to the topgallant mast and yards, which doesn't seem to make sense. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemc Posted January 16, 2016 Share #808 Posted January 16, 2016 Petersson shows seized doubled ropes drtrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #809 Posted January 16, 2016 I looped these in pairs, through the 2 rear-most holes in the cross tree and belayed them around the top-mast shrouds at the dead-eyes. That's how its shown in the Petersson book. I also decide to put ratlines on the top-gallant shrouds even though they are not shown on the plans - without them there would be no access to the topgallant mast and yards, which doesn't seem to make sense. Thank you Jason, I've seen the drawing on page 11 showing the topgallant shrouds dropped (in a loose way ?) to the deadeyes... Could you show me any relative photo from your model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #810 Posted January 16, 2016 Petersson shows seized doubled ropes Hi Dave, and thanks. There are three pairs of topgallant shrouds. I'm thinking (for the mo) to simply tie them between the mast using half-hitch knots and around the futtock staves as i did for the topmasts. Peterson drawings and web literature can't helm me to find the most accurate way: looped shrouds, zip seized shrouds etc... Davemc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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