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Royal Louis 1780 by Ulises Victoria - FINISHED - Mamoli - Scale 1/90 - French 126-gun ship


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Ulises,

 

I mean a little filler .....Pffffffffffff

For myself i use balsa filler ,but not that much !!!!

When you are sanding it, go outside !

Otherwise a fight with the Admiral ( don't ask me how I know this )

 

Sjors

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So Sjors... no way I can make you happy!!! :rolleyes:

Indeed, for this job I take my ship to my pen turning workshop, which is outside the house and where I can make whatever mess I want ;)

 

I tried all these fillers. The one on the far left, made by Henkel in the USA and readily available at my neighborhood Home Depot is my choice. Spreads easy, dries fast, sand easy and smooth and I can purchase it at the moment I need it.

 

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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A couple of "before and after" photos.

 

To sand down the filler in the hull of my Royal Louis I have to go outside and do it in my pen turning workshop, but being the weather cold and damp I just don't feel like it. So I worked a couple of days in an area that was haunting me since  don't know when (the "before" photos). This area in the bow was horrendous and I finally got to fix it. It still needs the final second planking over the vertical reinforcements, so it's not still totally finished, but at least it looks better now.

 

Before:

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After:

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Small update. Sanded the hull to the best of my abilities. Those large white spots were large depressions. I just found out that the second planking is 1mm thick, not the .5 I am used to. Not sure if this will make a favorable or not difference.

.5 planks are used only in the upper part above the first line of cannons.

 

I also marked the waterline using an improvised jig. I know Model Expo sells a 5 dls. jig, but I didn't want to wait.

 

I have no excuses now... next step, is the placement of the main wale, thus starting the second planking. GULP!!!

 

 

Close enough?

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Second planking which is 1mm thick is effectively double first planking. Might be difficult to get it to turn tight corners and will probably require steaming. 

Regards, Keith

 

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@George: I really hope so!

 

@Keith and Arthur: Thanks for the comments and tips.

 

@Sjors: I was awaiting your comment with some apprehension!  :D  :D Glad you like it!!! :cheers:

 

And thanks all for the likes!!!

 

Ulises

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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I try to keep it up with you more but work is in the way......

But you can be proud of your self with what you have done so far !!!!

I'll keep a close eye to you !!!!!

 

Sjors

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I used some sheets of paper and carbon paper, (Yes! Believe it or not I have a box full of that stuff.  :) ) to transfer the waterline and profile of the main wale from the drawings. Now I have to find a way to actually use this information on my ship. :rolleyes:

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Thank you Sjors. I was thinking to cut the paper at the wale line, then fix it aligning the straight waterline. This way I could place the first wale following the contour of the paper. What do you think?

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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I think you can better use tape for that.

When you use paper, you have the possibility that the paint is leaking under it.

With tape you have a straight line.

En when you put 2 stripes of tape on it, you can paint in between and have nice straight lines.......

 

Sjors

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Sjors: I may not have explained myself right.

I'm not thinking about using any paint. Just cut the paper in the shape of the wale and tape it on the hull using the waterline as a guide. Then I will use the shape cut in the paper to place the first wale. Hope this is more clear.  :)

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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I used black electrical tape to delimit the waterline, so I can have a better contrast when using the waterline line to match the same in the paper.

I might do the drawing again using a more transparent paper. Update to follow this week.  :)  :)

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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I did again the drawings, this time using semi-transparent paper. I have now a nice guide to start placing the first wale.

 

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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First wale dry fitted.

 

I just dry fit the first starboard wale. (Can I say dry fit if the wood is wet???  :rolleyes: )

There is no glue yet here whatsoever, so minor adjustments can still be done.

I consider this a critical step in the planking job. I'm doing it very slowly and with utmost care.

 

First segment of stern wale

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Bending the wood using a hair curler for the bow section where the curve is more pronounced.

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This is 2mm walnut. Not easy to bend. It takes some time but a nice curve can be made for the bow section.

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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I don't see paint  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

But you have to follow the tape at the bow Ulises ...... ;)  ;)

 

Sjors

Hello Sjors. Not sure what you mean. The tape (black) follows the waterline. The wale follows a different path.

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Arthur: Thanks a lot. I really don't know what I did  :) It just seemed the most logical thing to do.

Here are some photos of the laying (not yet glued) wales on both sides and from the front. The rough look in the front photo is from the masking tape tearing some of the wood.  ;)

 

Costas: Thank you for visiting. I'm aware of the fire at the Mamoli factory, however, I am not so sure they are actually "out of business"! Their web page is up and they even advertise some "NEW" models.

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Ulises,

 

I'm still sleeping  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(

Just ignore me and my comment !!!!

I'm gonna fold paper ship from now on ! :P

Just keep going and I'm watching ( without comment )

 

Sjors

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Ulises,

 

I'm still sleeping  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(

Just ignore me and my comment !!!!

I'm gonna fold paper ship from now on ! :P

Just keep going and I'm watching ( without comment )

 

Sjors

Sjors... your comments are ALWAYS welcome.  ;)

And all the other's as well. Really appreciate seeing people following my build and clicking the like button.  :cheers:

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Small update. I placed the three strips of wood that form the main wales on both sides of the ship.

You will see a very simple jig I'm using to further locate the exact place of the upper strip with respect to the cannon frame, in this case. Not truly necessary, though.

I don't like how the walnut spills and breaks when inserting nail near the ends, even though I pre drill a hole for the nails.

So I ordered some 2 x 5 mm boxwood strips from Crown Timberyard. (See add in home page)

Remember these wales are placed here temporarily and only to determine the shape and line of the wales. They will be further adjusted when final gluing and nailing is done.

 

By the way I have to send kudos to Jason of Crown. I sent an email asking for a quote on 2 x 5 mm boxwood in the morning, and by around 3:00PM the order was in the mail.

These wales, by the way, are going to be blackened using a product called Rub'n Buff ebony color. This is a paste that you... well..

rub'n buff and gives a very nice satin finish and does not penetrate the wood.

I also got some really thin black nails. I won't be using the brass shown in photos.

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Edited by Ulises Victoria

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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Thank you Arthur. Good point. Haven't thought about gluing to the adjacent planks. Guess I will have to think about it in the time the boxwood arrives. Maybe gluing a boxwood wale and immediately removing the section above. Will see.

 

I got some black nails with really small heads. I'm thinking about using them both to hold the planks while the glue dries and for looks, but that's just the plan. I'll let you know how it goes. :)

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There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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