shihawk Posted March 11, 2018 Share #241 Posted March 11, 2018 your committed now , there is no goin back , but i feel your pain !!! clearway 1 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share #242 Posted March 12, 2018 Ty Boyd, the support helps m8 Keith shihawk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff watts Posted December 14, 2018 Share #243 Posted December 14, 2018 hi guys , just came accross your posts , (i know ive arrived a bit late ) , as i have just started to build the billings victory too , a bit mad i know but its my first build , im about 3 months in so far , and no disasters yet , lovely to see the progress in pictures, and yes i agree the instructions are vague at best, but i must admit i have been studying others builds to gain a bit of much needed knowledge , seeing what youve done in stages allows an insight for us newbies thanks jeff shihawk and clearway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share #244 Posted December 17, 2018 ty jeff- welcome to the party😋. will be starting her again after having a break for a few months! keith jeff watts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share #245 Posted May 12, 2019 after a log break a bit more progress! finally got fore shrouds and t'gallant shrouds rigged- next job the ratlines. as always thanks for the replies and encouragement with the build. take care all. Keith etubino, shihawk, chris watton and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted December 21, 2019 Share #246 Posted December 21, 2019 This is my first exposure to rigging. It must take quite a bit of studying to do such great work. It just looks so interesting. One can imagine the sailors handling these huge ropes. This is some time ago but you are probably still around. Thanks for the pleasure I get out of viewing your log. clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted December 22, 2019 Share #247 Posted December 22, 2019 This is my first exposure to rigging. It must take quite a bit of studying to do such great work. It just looks so interesting. One can imagine the sailors handling these huge ropes. This is some time ago but you are probably still around. Thanks for the pleasure I get out of viewing your log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share #248 Posted January 6, 2020 thankyou emmet- been taking some time off, but should be back with her soon☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share #249 Posted March 15, 2020 Hello agian- yep still here! after what feels like a lifetime (side tracked yet once more!) finally got the ratlines on the topmast in place and t'gallant shrouds along with breast and backstays and foretop stays in place. The white card helps me stop going boss eyed when rigging the ratlines😵. take care all and have fun- as an aside in a moment of lunacy bought the trumpeter 1/200 Titanic!! Keith GrandpaPhil, Jeff-E and gieb8688 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share #250 Posted April 6, 2020 Hi again all in these crazy times- work has had to close so a few weeks on 80% pay for me. One positive in a load of negatives is time to spend on vicky! Got the driver boom , gaff and mizzen crossjack along with topping lifts, peak and throat halliards, crossjack trusses and lifts- the thread hanging down is for the topyard tye. originally rigged the topping lift tothe mizzen chainwhale by mistake🤪- have had to use longridge and steel as references as billings had them either wrong or missing in the case of the driver boom sheet. have fun all and keep safe. Keith gieb8688 and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 6, 2020 Share #251 Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, clearway said: Hi again all in these crazy times- work has had to close so a few weeks on 80% pay for me. One positive in a load of negatives is time to spend on vicky! Got the driver boom , gaff and mizzen crossjack along with topping lifts, peak and throat halliards, crossjack trusses and lifts- the thread hanging down is for the topyard tye. originally rigged the topping lift tothe mizzen chainwhale by mistake🤪- have had to use longridge and steel as references as billings had them either wrong or missing in the case of the driver boom sheet. have fun all and keep safe. Keith That sure is fine looking-nice work clearway and etubino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share #252 Posted April 14, 2020 Hello again all- thanks for views and comments everyone who has "popped by" as we say here. Work continues on the mizzen with the clewlines and sheets rigged on the topsail yard with the lifts next along with starting on the t'gallant yard. Also started work on the main yard- the bands are made from white card pva'd at the join. take care everyone- till later Keith gieb8688 and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 14, 2020 Share #253 Posted April 14, 2020 This is Emmet Absolutely amazing. Sorry to hear your pay will be lower. I am retired and behaving myself while I am stuck in Florida. The cases here are much lower than New Jersey so it is best to stay here. I look at your ship often and want to build one like it. But I am not sure I have the room. I just love looking at your rigging. I am doing the rigging on La Nina and it is difficult enough for me as a first timer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share #254 Posted April 14, 2020 Thankyou Emmet- i actually have the Nina kit myself but havn't touched it for a few years- A ship like Victory is definitely not advised as first time build- crawl before you can walk is the old adage- i built about 10 ships before starting on Victory (amongst the railway and military modelling)! Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 15, 2020 Share #255 Posted April 15, 2020 I am building the Santa Maria as my next ship. I will use that for my traveling ship. At home in NH I intend to build the Victory. While I realize it is difficult I am 82 years old and will give it a shot. Besides with guys like you around I have a lot of help. Thanks for your ideas-I appreciate it. clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieb8688 Posted April 15, 2020 Share #256 Posted April 15, 2020 Thank you so much for posting these rigging pictures Keith!! I am trying to decipher my Sergal HMS Victory rigging plans and it is proving to be a challenge! I will continue to follow with great interest. Thanks again, Mark Quote Current Build - 1/78 Sergal HMS Victory Restoration On The Shelf - Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share #257 Posted April 15, 2020 thankyou emmet and gieb for the comments- there is a book by c n longridge called "anatomy of nelsons ships" which is basically a step by step guide on the 1/48 victory he built which is an invaluable source of info- also james lees masting and rigging of english ships of war (picked mine up 2nd hand). Keith gieb8688 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 16, 2020 Share #258 Posted April 16, 2020 I have "Anatomy of ships" by John Mckay-bought 2nd hand. I have only looked through at this time. I bought "Historic Ship MOdels" by Wolfram Zu Mondfeld. Again I have just skimmed but I learned a lot of terminology with it. Kindle books-Rigging by Lennarth Petersson, "The Ship Model Builders Assistant" by Charles G. Davis. All of these I found within this website while looking at every log in the 'Wooden Ships .pdf' on this website. Since I knew virtually nothing about model ships I had to try to learn what I can. Learning by doing, however, has the greatest value. I have enjyed the challenge of it all and input from folks like yourself make it fun. clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share #259 Posted April 16, 2020 glad to have helped out in some way Emmet- i do still ask myself why do i do this to myself though🤪. slowly but surely making headway with the mizen mast with the topyard lifts and the t'gallant yard tye rigged. take care all and thanks again for having a peek. Keith GrandpaPhil and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted April 16, 2020 Share #260 Posted April 16, 2020 Absolutely beautiful! clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share #261 Posted April 17, 2020 ty Mike- i seem to recall you built a model of her a few year back with a build log on here? Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted April 17, 2020 Share #262 Posted April 17, 2020 Im enjoying your build of the Victory Keith. I have admired Billings kits for years and felt their kit would make into a beautiful representation and you are doing a fabulous job on her. I built the Atesiana Latina Victory about 3 years ago now, which was donated to my local library. I visit her often. clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share #263 Posted April 17, 2020 ty for the nice words Mike- thought the name rang a bell (not going totally gaga yet)!- i enjoyed the build of yours even though it wasn't billings. Left the mizzen alone for a day and finished the basic main yard and progressed with main tops'l yard. also finished the caldercraft anchors i bought to replace the billings ply ones. the stuns'l boom irons arn't 100% accurate, but a lot better than billings proposed. the booms arnt fastened in yet to ease painting the yard- as an aside if building the billings victory ignore around 60% of the rigging instructions and use longridge/ lees as a reference 🧐 take care all and keep up the good work everyone. Keith GrandpaPhil and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted April 17, 2020 Share #264 Posted April 17, 2020 The Latina kit had very good rigging plans, I also subbed with Anatomy of the Ship Victory. Since you are in the UK, it might be easier for you to get some actual Victory wood from one of their refits. I was able to locate a piece and had it shipped to me over here in the States. It cost me around $100.00 shipped for the wood, but I used it to make anchor collars, mast heads, davits and a few other things on the ship. I then took the left over wood and mounted it in the display stand next to the Victory display base with a letter of authenticity and a note explaining the areas in which the Victory wood was used. It's a really nice touch to a magnificent ship and model. clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 17, 2020 Share #265 Posted April 17, 2020 This is Emmet. I live in New Hampshire but am in Florida now-stuck here with the Covid beast. I will buy from Cornwall and I have to spend some time understanding what an ace means by buying extra wood. The actual cost is not a big deal. I save money building ships. I cannot fit a 54" boat in my building spot. I am looking at the 44" as a max. Thanks for your ideas and guidance. On 4/16/2020 at 2:53 PM, clearway said: glad to have helped out in some way Emmet- i do still ask myself why do i do this to myself though🤪. slowly but surely making headway with the mizen mast with the topyard lifts and the t'gallant yard tye rigged. take care all and thanks again for having a peek. Keith I decided to build ships to fill my time now that I am not able to do too much physically. I did not realize this was such a huge hobby with so many talented people. The virus thing came along to make it more interesting. Work like yours is inspiring. I enjoy researching everything about the subject. While I am in the process of finishing La Nina I am in no hurry. I am not overly impressed with La Nina but it was still very satisfying and worthwhile. Currently I am possessed with rigging and it calls for imagining how the actual sailors did it. I am trying to figure out how they could work on the quarter deck because it had to be overloaded with ropes. I am rigging the ropes as though the sails would always be up. Otherwise it would be a complete mess. PIctures do not show all of the mistakes I have made. Some I could fix while others had to stand. Move on the next ship. clearway and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share #266 Posted April 18, 2020 Ty for the likes and comments guys- Mike i had thought of that after seeing it in your log🙂- Emmet i have had to buy or use extra strips of wood for things like the gunwales which billings didn't include- also took off cuts of timber (hawthorn) from my friend who was cutting bushes back and seasoned and cut to size. I think either cornwall model boats or the model dockyard in the u.k. do an etched replacement stern for the smaller scale models of victory.There is a pic of the 1/98 mantua kit i re-masted for a friend earlier in my blog and that would fit your space limitations. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 18, 2020 Share #267 Posted April 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, clearway said: Ty for the likes and comments guys- Mike i had thought of that after seeing it in your log🙂- Emmet i have had to buy or use extra strips of wood for things like the gunwales which billings didn't include- also took off cuts of timber (hawthorn) from my friend who was cutting bushes back and seasoned and cut to size. I think either cornwall model boats or the model dockyard in the u.k. do an etched replacement stern for the smaller scale models of victory.There is a pic of the 1/98 mantua kit i re-masted for a friend earlier in my blog and that would fit your space limitations. Keith Cool-I should have bought different wood for the gunwales on La Nina. I had a hell of a struggle bending them to fit correctly. I found the Mantua Victory on Page 6. Cornwall has quite a few in my size. I am just now bookmarking all the ones that look interesting. Appreciate your input Emmet clearway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share #268 Posted April 19, 2020 Hi Emmet- as regards bending wood i soak mine for at least 3 hours in a bath of warm water before bending (they use steam on the planks on the real ships) Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 20, 2020 Share #269 Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 5:16 AM, clearway said: Hi Emmet- as regards bending wood i soak mine for at least 3 hours in a bath of warm water before bending (they use steam on the planks on the real ships) Keith OK Thanks Keith Do you then dry them on the ship and glue later? Would you mind telling me what kind of glue and how you apply the planks? I am just now realizing how to look at other people's builds. Up to now I used a the wooden ships directory but that often did not have much for given listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted April 20, 2020 Share #270 Posted April 20, 2020 On 5/6/2014 at 3:49 AM, clearway said: planking continues. Looking forward to making all those window frames! Keith This is great work Keith. The devil is in the details. gieb8688 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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