pete48 Posted May 22, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) This Morning I awoke 3 hours earlier than normal for me. ( this is either a Good thing or not ) I choose for it to be a good thing. I decided to put my theory to the test by build a Proto-type Herreshoff 12 1/2 , at 3/4" = 1' - 0 "using the L. Francis Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 ftr as a base line, in wich He had lengthend his Fathers version of the 12 1/2 with the same beam, I decided to shorten the frame spacing from 18" to 16" thus giving me a 12' - 6" waterline .(reversing what L. Francis had done ) and in theory giving me the original 12 1/2 . I am using the Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 ftr plans as well as photos and other information that I have gathered as my reference's. Here are some pic's of what I am going for. I feel pretty good about this build Edited May 22, 2014 by pete48 hexnut, piperjoe, Elia and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #2 Posted May 22, 2014 I first started by laying out the keel on 1/8" X 4" X 12" basswood in the same fashion that I lofted the drawing ( this way I could double check my Math ) I then laid out the Stern Post and Cockpit Floor wich is 1' - 0 " ( scale ) lower than the Buzzards Bay 14 ftr. This was one of the things that I wanted to do differently while building the Buzzards Bay 14 ftr. The other thing, was that I made sure that I figured in the notch on the Stern Post for the Transom . Then I cut it out, squared it up and made a building Jig . I then layed out the Frames and then cut them out. These are the same size Frames as the Buzzards Bay 14 ftr .( I have not changed the offset table just the frame spacing ) Here are the results hexnut, piperjoe, Mirabell61 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted May 22, 2014 Share #3 Posted May 22, 2014 Hi Pete48. Great start for an interesting build. It's also refreshing, because we don't often see many large models of small boats; so much so, that your model stands out really nicely. All the best. pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted May 22, 2014 Thank you Omega1234, the Herreshoff 12 1/2 is a beautiful boat that I have always wanted ( since I was a kid ) the Buzzards Bay 14 ftr. is as nice as well , But there is just somthing about the Original that just grabs you. My goal is to try and capture that essence. and my calculations seem to be working out. Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted May 23, 2014 Today, I finished trimming up the frames that I had cut then fit them in the keel. I did end up cutting 6" (Scale ) off the seat top and adding 4" ( Scale ) it to the notch for where the transom sits.other than that the Calculations seem to be good and on track to having the 12 1/2. I then dry fit all the frames in the Keel ( and for illustration purposes, I am using the Rudder in the jig to hold up the transom ) Next will be to figure out and lay out the bench seats in the Cockpit. then cut them out as well as cutting in for the Ribbands. Here are the results, ( one shot has Her next to Her big sister ) JerryTodd, Erebus and Terror, Littlebob and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted May 30, 2014 I did not have alot of time today to work on anything big, So I decided that I would replace frames 4 and 9 . Frame 4 has a 2" (Scale ) rise at the center of the frame wich is the top of the deck camber, frame 9 has 1" camber . Thats the nice thing about building the Buzzards Bay 14 ftr.first , I can change things at this stage alot easier . Here are the results yvesvidal, Erebus and Terror, Elmer Cornish and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted May 30, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Now that would be a very nice build at 1 1/2 inches to the foot......Hmmm Your start looks super. Michael Edited May 30, 2014 by michael mott pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexnut Posted May 30, 2014 Share #8 Posted May 30, 2014 Dude, do you sleep? You are cranking out loads of really nice little boats. pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted May 30, 2014 Michael, I did loft a few of the frames at 1 1/2" = 1' - 0" and at that size would make a realy nice rc boat. ( I have thought about it ) Bob, Thank you for the kind words, Sleep whats that ( LoL ) I am fortunate that right now I have time to work on these Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted May 30, 2014 Share #10 Posted May 30, 2014 Another Herreshoff. How great. I'll have to watch this. Bob pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 30, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 30, 2014 Pete, one could fall in love with the lines of those keelboat daysailers. If I had known at that time that this build (in actual) was on the market I would have bought it instead of my Cornish Cormorant way back in 1987 Nils pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted May 31, 2014 Thank you Cap'n'Bob , This is going to be a fun build , Trying to Capture Capt' Nates Masterpiece. Nils , It is not hard to do these are amazing boats Best Regards, Pete Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted May 31, 2014 Today, I started by setting up the building jig . Next I cut out the Cockpit details on frames 5 thru 8 . Then I started setting frames by Squaring them up with the Backbone and Level with the water line. ( so far She's right on the money ) Next will be to Fair the Frames , and get ready for Planking. Here are the results Erebus and Terror, Elmer Cornish, piperjoe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick020763 Posted May 31, 2014 Share #14 Posted May 31, 2014 Pete: Again, beautiful lines and splendid craftsmanship. Fascinating to watch the 12.5 and 14 come to life almost simultaneously. Rick pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted May 31, 2014 Thank you Rick, I appreciate it Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted May 31, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 31, 2014 Thanks for the pictures. With lines like that she'll be a beauty. Bob pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted May 31, 2014 Thank you Cap'n'Bob , Shes actually going together easier than the 14 , I have been able to plan this one a little better , It has helped alot by doing the 14 first since I have the plans for that one . She will be a looker Best Regards, Pete captainbob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted June 2, 2014 Yesterday I started Fairing the Frames , Then I decided to Remodel the Lobster Smack Buid Jig to so that it is now my Herreshoff 12 1/2 build jig ( It is a very flat very, stable build board and will work perfect for the next build ) Today I started to finish the Fairng of the frames and Frame 9 broke off , after that I realized that Frame 8 had not been detailed for the cockpit. I was fortunate that I was able to take care of that before Planking, after the 2 fixes I finished Fairing the Frames . She is right on the Money the numbers are comming out perfect and she is now ready for planking . Here are the results Elmer Cornish, JMaitri, Erebus and Terror and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 2, 2014 Share #19 Posted June 2, 2014 Pete: She looks good. Everything looks straight and fair to my eye. Very nice work. Russ pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Thank you Russ , In alot of ways building the 14 first , has helped tremendosly, and has given me great insight to create as close to Capt' Nates Original 12 1/2 as Possible . The Math Has come out perfect . Its been an incredible amount of fun building these . ( and it has been quite Addicting ) Best Regards, Pete Edited June 3, 2014 by pete48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Today, I started planking the Hull . First I soaked my planking material in Rubbing Alcohol . I soaked them for about an hour and a half. This way, I can achieve maximum flexability with the ability to attach them more quikly ( as alcohol evaporates faster than water ) I was able to get the first 5 rows on, She is looking alot like Capt' Nates 12 1/2 . Everything is right on the numbers ( I am pleased ) Here are the results Edited June 3, 2014 by pete48 dgbot, yvesvidal, Elmer Cornish and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 3, 2014 Share #22 Posted June 3, 2014 The planking looks really good. Your prep work is really paying off. That is a good lesson for everyone. Russ pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #23 Posted June 3, 2014 Hi Russ, Thank you, the planking has gone alot smoother on this one . The Prep work is so vital, that it determines the out come of the boat. and you say it best " T'aint a Hobby if you hurry " Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted June 3, 2014 Share #24 Posted June 3, 2014 Fine work. She’s coming along nicely. In the background I see a block with a “C” clamp buried in it. What is it for? Tell me about it. Bob pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted June 3, 2014 Thank you Bob, Thats funny I built that little vice out of old C-clamp when I was building the Midwest Lobster Smack . You comented on it back then , I don't use it as much as I thought I would . Mainly I use it for Holding parts while I fabricate ( it is handy at times ) I am hoping to finish planking today, it will be close Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted June 4, 2014 Today , I was able to get another 4 rows of planking on. That has been some of the toughest wood bending that I have ever done on a model before. The Seams are all nice and tight Shes starting to take shape, and I understand now why the 12 1/2's have been refered to as a Doughdish. Here are the results piperjoe, yvesvidal, Elmer Cornish and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted June 4, 2014 Share #27 Posted June 4, 2014 Looks great. I like the lines of the hull. Russ pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #28 Posted June 4, 2014 Thank you Ress, She is looking like Capt' Nates 12 1/2 . Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted June 4, 2014 Share #29 Posted June 4, 2014 Lovely job on the hull. Your planks are nice and tight and even. David B pete48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #30 Posted June 4, 2014 Thank you David, I appreciate it, the planks turned out good . lots of bending Best Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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