TRAJTA by MarisStella.hr - FINISHED - fishing and cargo boat from Korčula, Croatia

[schnu]

You surely know how to promote your products, what wood was used for the planking?

[MarisStella.hr]

Hi schnu...

 

My intent is not a promotion, but the introduction  .... Constructions that are not visible on the models are made of poplar plywood (laser-cut), all elements that are visible on the models are made in walnut solid wood panels (laser-cut)... the rest are walnut strips, rarely lime, oak and mahogany ...

[schnu]

Well then your introduction worked perctly, because your company is now on my wish list

[MarisStella.hr]

Thanks schnu, thanks you all for your comments and likes...

[maggsl_01]

Hi Marisstella

 

I am with the other guys around: This boat is incredible - smooth surface, precise, clean and with the different shades of the wood just beautiful. One almost can forget that it is a model. Although I am on the bench with the Royal Caroline I will build a model from your company.  They are so interesting, esp the cog or the carrack.

 

I am really overwhelmed by the work you do... you are a master

 

Best wishes from Germany

 

Max

[Littlebob]

Your work is very good nice and clean, I have checked your website you have some really nice models there.

[MarisStella.hr]

Dear me .. nice people ! What comments ! I do not really know what to say ... Thank you so much ...

... I was going to show you  a part of the vessel now that I do not know whether it is authentic Croatian, or has it somewhere else in the world ... it's a simple bulwark on the left side of the stern ... the bulwark serves a fishing net to not slide in to the sea from the deck during navigation  ...

 

... first I have done the bulwark supports...

... Then I bent the bulwark which was cut by laser on the walnut board  2mm, and then I glued it in to it`s place ... So it looks like this :

[MarisStella.hr]

...Then I have done a few simple works ... the covers of the openings that lead below the decks and hatch covers ... All according to the draft ...That is all done out ​​of planks 1.5 x5mm ...

[CAd My Fingers]

Wow, she's looking very nice--really like all the fine details of this kit!

 

Cheers,

Jay

[MarisStella.hr]

Thanks Jay...

... I always try to achieve the maximum of realism of models when doing kit designs ... and there's always some new detail or technique that I find out and implement ... I continually refine old designs ... I have to say again, I really enjoy doing this ...

[MarisStella.hr]

... Then I finished the bow... I completed the walk board out of the laser cut elements, the walnut panel 2mm . Troughly glued it and treated with sandpaper ... (I'm not sure whether it's a walk board correct translation for it ... it serves to jump on it from the shore and to walk on the deck of the boat ... The literal translation would have been board for drop jump ...)... It is characteristic of leudo - fishing and cargo boats of the Adriatic Sea, it is recognition of her...

Edited June 28, 2014 by MarisStella.hr

[Thanasis]

Well, there has been some discussion about this "walking board" also for "our" Trata.

Greek Trata hasn't had this flat timber on the beak, so we can't say for sure whether the reason was to help the embarkation or disembarkation. If was so, then every fishing boat should have such a similar construction.

It could be a remnant of beaks of older Mediterranean vessels (like tartana) that was utilized according the needs by some nations. …

Thx

Edited June 28, 2014 by Thanasis

[MarisStella.hr]

Hello everyone ...

                   Thanasis,I am sure  yet that there is  the protruding board only on leudo, another fishing boats  do not have that... so at least on the Adriatic Sea ...It seems to me that the Mediterranean tartana has no such a board in all her versions, the same as not all types of leudo of Mediterranean ... these could be discussed ...

 

...Now I can publish a photo that I personally really like a lot ... The hull is completed in its entirety ...  :

[Thanasis]

Maris Stella, I don't want to be misunderstood...

I was not talking about the "walking board" itself but as a possible remnant of the beak of other vessels "like Tartana". 

It's only a guess of mine and as an example it could be also a "Chebec" or a "Galeotta").

Thx

Edited June 29, 2014 by Thanasis

[MarisStella.hr]

Hello ...

Thanasis, OK  ... I think there is not possible to compare leudo (never longer then 12m) and much longer vessels, the fact is that leudo is a boat...Here are a few versions, old and new :

 

 

[Thanasis]

Ok. Let me be more specific.

I do accept what you saying about the protruding construction on the Trajta or Leut. What I'm trying to point out is that this construction (with its extended stem and the side supports of the beak) has many similarities, with the beak of other vessels in the Mediterranean Sea.

My point of view is that no matter the size of the boats, this construction, was not initially constructed to help the approach to the boat but and without being an expert, this is an influence from older vessels.

As you have also said the tradition was passed around the neighboring nations and some of them certainly made adjustments.

If you like, I'm finding more similarities between the beak of the Greek Trata and the Maltesian Xprunara-Sperunara, but I made all the above thinking-discussion because of the name Trajta-Trata....

Btw. Having seen in photos the model of Mr Skomeršić, please give him my best regards (if he still remembers me…) 

Thx

[MarisStella.hr]

Thanasis, yes, I understand it now ... I agree with you, developmental factor is also  the succeeding factor in perfecting the vessel throughout  the history...

 

... Talking about Trajta,  I prepared everything for mounting the rudder ...Here are a few more photos:

 

 

 

 

[pete48]

Hi Marisstella, Beautiful work, she looks amazing

 

Best Regards,

Pete

[MarisStella.hr]

Thanasis, are there some similarities between the Trajta and Greek Trata in construction ? ....

[Thanasis]

Zoran, I really don't know... As the log goes on, I think the only connection between those two vessels apart of the name is just something... drom the beak.

I think Gr Trata comes more narrow and long. It was an open hull  boat, with small decks at the bow and stern in some versions...Its purpose was the fishing itself and not just the transportation of the catch. Sailing mainly by the use of oars, there were benches for the paddlers.

See the below drawing from the book "The evolution of shipbuilding in the Eastern Mediterranean during the 18th-19th centuries." and you can see more photos of Trata vessels at http://www.naftotopos.gr/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=246:trata&Itemid=622〈=el

Allow me also two queries...

-As in the real boat I guess, you placed a bulwark on the left side of the stern to keep the nets on deck...But if she was made just to transport the catch, what the necessity for nets to be on her deck. 

-From what kind of vessels she was collecting the catch to be transferred ashore.

Thx

 

 

Edited July 1, 2014 by Thanasis

[MarisStella.hr]

... The name of this topic is : "TRAJTA - fishing and cargo boat from Korčula, Croatia, by MarisStella.hr"... there is no exact translation for "leudo" .... it is primarily a fishing boat (for fishing) that transports the catch to the shore ...I think that is the primary problem here ... there is no exact translation ...

... Could  someone point out the correct translation of the type of the boat "leudo" ?

... The proper name of the topic would be : "TRAJTA - leudo from Korčula, ..."...

[Thanasis]

At  http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leudo   I found this...

 

Leudo

"Il leudo o loido (in lingua italiana leuto o liuto, in lingua ligure lœidu o leûdo pron. /'løɪdu/[1]) è il vocabolo dato, in Liguria, ad una famiglia di barche a vela latina che sono state utilizzate per le attività di cabotaggio (trasporto di merci) fino agli ultimi decenni nel Novecento, in tutta l'area mediterranea."

 

Translated

"The leudo or loido (in Italian lute or lute , in the Ligurian language lœidu or Leudo pron. / 'løɪdu / [1] ) is the term given, in Liguria , to a family of boats with lateen sails that were used for the cabotage (for freight transport) until the last few decades in the twentieth century , in the whole Mediterranean area."

 

Well after this mix-up (?) I think the title of the build log should being referred to Trajta only as a fishing boat.

 

Thx

Edited July 1, 2014 by Thanasis

[MarisStella.hr]

I would not agree ... ... Korcula is an island, ships of this type undoubtedly were used for fishing, but also for various types of cargo transportation from the mainland ... As gajeta, or leut, trajta is designed to carry cargo but also for fishing ... Life of the islanders in the old days consisted (in the main) of trading, fishing, farming and very little from animal husbandry, ships in the main were dual-purpose ... ...The rest of it is written in the scriptures that have prompted us to research and reconstruction ...  It is fishing-cargo boat for sure, specific type of it ...

[MarisStella.hr]

... Here it is, the rudder ... Here I played a little bit ... I picked up the rudder slightly above the level of the draft ... I wanted to see how it would be looking like ... WRONG !! ... I'll fix it later, when I get some time ... The rudder of Trajta must penetrate below the keel to half a meter ... It's kind of a stabilizer during the sailing ... But, for now, It will be like this for a short time  .. . Here are photos:

[Thanasis]

Are those four (4) hatches covering small storerooms, or just openings for the fishermen to be standing up inside, while they pull up the nets from the sea...

Thx

[MarisStella.hr]

...Hatch covers are easily removed, below each opening is a small platform, and in every opening is one oarsman ... the oarsman pedals with the oar on the opposite side of the boats hull...

... There are openings in the middle part of the hull, one toward the stern and the other towards the bow ... they lead under the decks, they are used for cargo loading ... Please see post #10  ...      ...I am telling you, this boat was very functional ...

[MarisStella.hr]

...Then I painted black below the waterline, set the handrail on the bow and set the mast ...

[Thanasis]

Hi Zoran.

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear...

I'm not judging the model, I'm sure you're going by the draft...

I'm just trying to figure out, why the real boat ( sailing also by the use of oars) had to be covered in most of it's part with a deck.

Thx

[schnu]

I know almost nothing of the subject, but maybe to not expose the fish at the sun to long, the only thing I know is that fish stinks when it is hours in the sun.

[MarisStella.hr]

Hi,  Thanasis, this is the Croatian definition of Leudo :
... Leut is one of the oldest boats with oars and sails on the Croatian coast, common in the Neretva and Omis (ancient times), and over time spread across the whole Adriatic. Usually divided into smaller (up to 8.5 meters) and larger (up to 15 meters), capacity 6-8 tons (fish). There are six oars, the hull is massively built. Her deck is covered, has a strong keel and hull is rounded in the central part. The mast is located at 1/3 the length of the hull. Has a Latin sail. She differs of all the other ships in the fact that the bow has a drop jump board long up to 1.2 meters. The crew makes 7-8 people, and a fishing boat at a time when there were no engines had up to 14 crew members. She does not develop high speed, but she is extremely resistant to high winds and waves.
 
schnu.. I'm sorry for "fish", I'm not going to say it any more ... 

... just preparing photographs of the oars ...