Blue Ensign Posted January 21, 2014 Share #271 Posted January 21, 2014 Nice work Ray and a great result, mark of a good modeller going back to do major fixes to get things right. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share #272 Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks for the comments guys and the like button responses the rework although a pain did come out as good as it possibly could have done, I am one starting on the two upper deck fittings starting with the cannons and caronades, much more fun, I will update the build on the guns in a few days. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share #273 Posted January 30, 2014 The nine pound carriage guns were made up in the same way as were the eighteen pounders. The caronades were made up in stages as shown in the photos, I first looked for the tackle arrangement and used the one that seems most common, the issue was the fixing of the front carriage pin it shows it pinned through the bulwark on the bottom of the gun port, the problem with this would be, in lowering the bottom of the port to keep the cartridge level, it would be to low and look wrong, so I looked at every photo of caronades I could find, on models, and as mounted on H M S Victory, and most had the front swivel pin going through a block mounted on the deck in front of the port, so that is how I built mine.I am just starting to rig them in place. Carriage parts assembling carriages Carriages built up minus barrels and some rigging eyes Extra rigging brackets from spruce and 3mm rings Made up and painted On deck working out how the rigging will run fake johnbull, WackoWolf, Barbossa and 6 others 9 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted January 31, 2014 Share #274 Posted January 31, 2014 Those carronades look excellent Ray, and the arrangement on the deck suits just fine. As I understand it the arrangement where the bed was fixed thro' the gun port cill was an early one, around 1780 according to Brian Lavery. By 1795 when Diana received her carronades, Lavery at least suggests the pad arrangement was typical. B.E. Brian Oates, Ray and WackoWolf 3 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share #275 Posted January 31, 2014 Hi B E Thanks for the endorsement you are a font of knowledge I researched the front fixing, it as best I could, the plans shown them fitted through the gun port sill. I am going to arrange the guns on the quarterdeck with the two caronades in the middle and two nine pounders either side, and on the foredeck two nine pounders will be set up as bow chasers and the last two caronades in the last forward side gun position. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share #276 Posted February 10, 2014 Carronades The first photos show the first carronade fully rigged, next photos show the stages in which they have been rigged, I tied up all the tackles first and then just hooked them on and set them up, glued down the end of the rope and added the rope coils, they look a bit shiny in the photos but not in real life,they just need the paint touching up on the hooks and eyes, next I will add the nine pounders to complete the deck guns on one side of the quarter deck. The first one being set up The first Carronade rigged The second one being rigged WackoWolf, Blue Ensign, Timmo and 10 others 13 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 10, 2014 Share #277 Posted February 10, 2014 Looking good Ray, I admire your patience with all those flemish coils B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted February 11, 2014 Share #278 Posted February 11, 2014 Sweet very sweet. Ray, did the carronades come with barrel plugs supplied or did you make them yourself, I've been toying with the idea for some time and it's good to see them in use. Be Good mobbsie Brian Oates 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share #279 Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Mobbsie The stops in the carronades were part of the moulding I just painted the ends red so as to highlight them. I have added a photo of the original casting of one of the two I will not use. Carronade as supplied in kit. tarbrush and mobbsie 2 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted February 12, 2014 Share #280 Posted February 12, 2014 Ray, your coils look great, very natural. I was on the fence as to whether to do coils or not, and didn't go down that route myself - but maybe next time. The training tackles make a big difference as well. Ray 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share #281 Posted February 18, 2014 Quarter Deck 9 Pounders The nine pound carriage guns were made up the same way as the eighteen pounders were, and added to the quarterdeck, I have added a couple of photos of the blocks with hooks fitted I make these like this to give as much space between the rigging blocks as possible, they just have a .7mm hole drilled in the end and an opened up and cut down copper eyelet inserted. Cannon rigging blocks Cannons made up Starting to fit First one done All done one side mtaylor, fnkershner, alde and 13 others 16 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted February 19, 2014 Share #282 Posted February 19, 2014 Top work Ray. I think I'll be making some similar blocks with hooks now. Ray 1 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted February 19, 2014 Share #283 Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Ray, very nice mate but aren't those coils a complete pain to do. I have made loads and am still trying to find a system I like and which will give me a uniform finish, who knows, maybe one day. Cannon and Carronade's look fantastic. Be Good mobbsie Ray 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share #284 Posted February 20, 2014 Hi guys Flemish Coils Yes Mobbsie the Flemish coils are a real pain, but they do give best look to rigging the guns in my opinion, I have added a few photos of how I make them, and I wish I could find a more efficient way of doing them. This way works but is slow and tiresome, sometimes it takes several goes to get one started,I lay out the masking tape sticky side up and just stick the rope down wrapping it around the starting loop under my finger and when done paint them over with diluted pva and remove when dry. Two coils a strip of coils A batch done mort stoll, Blue Ensign, Bettina and 6 others 9 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted February 20, 2014 Share #285 Posted February 20, 2014 Thanks for sharing your tip Ray, those coils look really fine indeed Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaas Posted April 1, 2014 Share #286 Posted April 1, 2014 Hello Ray, Just caught up with your log. For me another one to follow Ray 1 Quote Current build: HMS Agamemnon 1781 Website: http://www.henkvanluinen.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 1, 2014 Share #287 Posted April 1, 2014 Love the shot of the guns along the Quarterdeck rail. B.E. Ray 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share #288 Posted April 6, 2014 Hi all I have had a bit of a building break, mainly due to refitting our bathroom, which included a new bath and new sink & loo vanity units. We also had a week looking after two of our granddaughters. I did make up a couple of the deck fittings the capstan and the quarter deck sky-light.Now back to adding the guns to the other side of the quarter deck, two carronades so far. Capstan Quarter deck sky-light Second side Carronades Bettina, Barbossa, mobbsie and 10 others 13 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted April 7, 2014 Share #289 Posted April 7, 2014 Welcome back, Just curious. Any particular reason you left the skylight natural as opposed to paining it red and black like the capsan? Thanks, Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share #290 Posted April 7, 2014 Hi Mort I might yet still paint the sky-light I just made up a couple of the deck fittings until I could get back to the guns, I will most likely place all the deck fittings dry in place and then decide on the final paint or varnish finish. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted April 8, 2014 Share #291 Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Ray, I fully understand what you mean by refurbing the Bathroom, I'm doing our kitchen, aint easy mate. Nice progress on the deck furnishing's and that a really interesting set up for the carronades, very well done. Be Good mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share #292 Posted April 28, 2014 All the quarter deck guns have now been rigged slow progress due to other comittments and a bout of flu, the only other work has been on some of the deck fittings. I will update on the fitting soon, I will also add the pin-rails, I think they will be fixed to the top of the bulwark below the open rail,I will also fit the cleats plus the eye’s to the rear half of the ship, at this moment I am also thinking the sky light will be painted red ochre and the barricade black as all the wooden components in its construction are different colours. All the quarter deck guns rigged Timmo, Blue Ensign, WackoWolf and 12 others 15 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 29, 2014 Share #293 Posted April 29, 2014 Very nice work Ray and excellent photos. Look forward to seeing the centre-line fittings in place. B.E. Ray 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 29, 2014 Share #294 Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Nice guns there Ray and top work on the rigging. Edited April 29, 2014 by Timmo Ray 1 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share #295 Posted May 8, 2014 Time to complete making up the quarter deck fittings and add them the the model, I first added the pin rails all of which had the holes opened up to take the belaying pins, next came the deck cleats (which were drilled and pins added) then I added the eye bolts to the deck and the channels, here I did make a boo boo and drilled the holes the wrong side of the main mast hole, so now there are eye bolts right around the mast hole. Next the cavil blocks were modified to bring the top away from the side of the bulwark this will allow ropes to be tied to them see photos, if not altered you could not tie off on them. I made up the barricade a bit fiddly but not to bad at the moment I am undecided as to whether to leave it unpainted or paint it black. Pin rails The barricade Barricade dry fitted Cleats Cavil blocks Aussie048, WackoWolf, mtaylor and 9 others 12 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaas Posted May 8, 2014 Share #296 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Nice work Ray, i follow this build with a lot of interest What about painting the barricade in natural wood, and then varnish it? Edited May 8, 2014 by Klaas Ray 1 Quote Current build: HMS Agamemnon 1781 Website: http://www.henkvanluinen.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted May 8, 2014 Share #297 Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks Ray for sharing, very nice progress pics, shes really coming together. Love deck shots. On the barricade, I have seen a few admiralty models with these painted/stained black and thats probably the route I would choose knowing the wood would probably not look the best left natural with what I'm assuming is ply. Ray 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 8, 2014 Share #298 Posted May 8, 2014 I like the gun level views. Looks great. Lots of work to rig all those guns. Ray 1 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share #299 Posted May 10, 2014 Many thanks for all the ticks and comments.The barricade will turn black later today, it is black on my Pegasus and on a lot off other models and I think it is the way to go. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share #300 Posted May 10, 2014 The barricade has now been painted black and I think looks better for it, the ships wheel has also be painted and made up, and the rail on the great cabin roof has been fixed on. Black barricade Ships wheel Cabin roof rail Barbossa, jaerschen, jim_smits and 9 others 12 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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