marsalv Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share #31 Posted September 21, 2014 Lower deck - it will not be visible, but I made test how the deck will look with black paper and treenails. I made about 3500 pieces of treenails (diameter 0.55 mm), so I have a sufficient supply for any remaining deck. sparrow, wyz, Dimitris71 and 22 others 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted September 21, 2014 Share #32 Posted September 21, 2014 That looks fantastic Marsalv !!I assume you are using a hypodermic needle to 'drill' the treenails.Excellent work Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted September 21, 2014 Share #33 Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Please explain the bit you used to cut the tree nails Marsalv. Amazing! And - what is the wood? Beautiful deck by the way. Enjoying your build very much. Edited September 21, 2014 by SawdustDave Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted September 22, 2014 Share #34 Posted September 22, 2014 Please Marsalv explain it !! 0.55mm is far far away from what I have got from my drawplate! Excellent work! Daniel. Quote In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share #35 Posted September 22, 2014 Thank you all for nice comments . I used usual hypodermic needle with diameter 0,8 mm (21G). Needle is carefully ground to the tip - see pictures. As wood is used pear, a necessary condition is that the wood fibers would be parallel to the needle. Is it possible to make treenails with diameter 0,45 mm (needle 0,7 mm 22G). You can see the comparison between 0,55 and 0,45 treenails in the last picture. fatih79, Duanelaker, jud and 20 others 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted September 22, 2014 Share #36 Posted September 22, 2014 Ingenious!!! Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted September 22, 2014 Share #37 Posted September 22, 2014 Marsalv I have not seen this done before. I am very impressed with the cleanliness of the treenails and of the resulting holes in the sacrifice block. given the shape of your cutting edge and that there is no clearance for the cutting waste, I am also surprised that there is no discolouration or burning of the wood. First question, are you cutting at high low or medium speed? Second question, do you have to make short cuts and retrieve the drill a few times for each treenail? (raise and lower the cutting edge) Third question, how do you extract the treenail from the needle? or is it still attached to the sacrifice block? regards Michael Bill Hime, harvey1847 and PeteB 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share #38 Posted September 22, 2014 Hi Michael, I will try to answer your qustions (sorry for my bad english). Proxxon drilling maschine has 3 spindle speeds and I use the medium speed. Each treenail is made only with one down/up movement of cutting needle. Sequence is following - down with needle, up with needle, movement wit XY table and again. It´s pretty fast. You must only watch, if you can see treenail in the wood block after drilling. If you see no treenail (black hole), needle is propably blocked with wood and you must clean it. It is also the answer to your third question - treenails MUST stay in wood block. After drilling cover the face side with holes with adhesive tape, carefully cut off the opposite side and then push and remove the treenails from the block. It is easy . druxey, Bill Hime, PeteB and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted September 22, 2014 Share #39 Posted September 22, 2014 Thank you that makes sense. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share #40 Posted October 1, 2014 Probably the last work before saving Pandora to hibernate - deck in the officers cabin, gluing the main deck beams. Stoyne, druxey, PeteB and 27 others 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted October 1, 2014 Share #41 Posted October 1, 2014 Hello Marsalv, yust found you Pandora build log and I'm amazed of very fine work! Excellent! Will follow with interest. Alex Quote Current build: HMS Sphynx, 20 gun ship launched in 1775 at Portsmouth, Hampshire. On the drawing board: HMS Anson, 64 gun third rate ship of the line, launched in 1781 at Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share #42 Posted October 1, 2014 Hallo Alex, thank you for compliment. As you can see I was very inspired by your Sphynx log . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 1, 2014 Share #43 Posted October 1, 2014 Thank you sir for sharing that unique method of creating perfect treenails. Very impressive indeed. daHeld and Bill Hime 2 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted October 9, 2014 Share #44 Posted October 9, 2014 Marsalv, NMBROOK just referred me to your build to see your treenailing technique. Wow, what an excellent idea! Repeatable and time saving with a perfect treenail, it doesn't get any better than that. You are a true artisan . I would like to see how you ground the hypodermic needle down, if your so incline Sincere Regards, Bill Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share #45 Posted May 30, 2015 So I decided to continue on Pandora. I solved before winter whether to use color or not. Finally, the choice fell on a partially colored model and started to spray wales. On the first attempt with airbrush it does not look bad. wyz, mtaylor, PeteB and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted May 30, 2015 Share #46 Posted May 30, 2015 Very good work !! Michel Quote http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10864-lart%C3%A9sien-scale-160-by-michel-b%C3%A9nard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted May 30, 2015 Share #47 Posted May 30, 2015 Looooking greaaaaaaat mate. Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 30, 2015 Share #48 Posted May 30, 2015 Nice! Question: what made you decide for the somewhat unusual scale of 1:52, in stead of a 1:48? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share #49 Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks to all . To amateur: I wanted to build a model in scale 1:48. But due to space limitation I chose a compromise scale 1:52. Now is the time to show the figurehead which made for me Doris (for those who do not know her work http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/854-royal-caroline-by-doris-card-1749-140/?hl=doris).I appreciate very much this assistance because my attempt would probably ended very pathetic. Dubz, albert, mtaylor and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share #50 Posted June 6, 2015 So I began planking the hull. It's my first attempt planking in one layer. I'll see what happens, and depending on the result I will decide whether to make copper protection or not. I started with a few plank in keel area. Mike Y, NMBROOK, Michel and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 7, 2015 Share #51 Posted June 7, 2015 Looks good to me. I assume you will not be using the copper any more. Cheers Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share #52 Posted June 12, 2015 Thank you Greg . I continue with planking from the opposite side. daHeld, Jaekon Lee, gieb8688 and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted June 12, 2015 Share #53 Posted June 12, 2015 Neat planking! Really good work. And great figurehead too. Alex Quote Current build: HMS Sphynx, 20 gun ship launched in 1775 at Portsmouth, Hampshire. On the drawing board: HMS Anson, 64 gun third rate ship of the line, launched in 1781 at Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted June 12, 2015 Share #54 Posted June 12, 2015 Wonderful,super clean work Marsalv Doris has also come up trumps with a stunning figurehead Kind Regards Nigel mtaylor 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted June 12, 2015 Share #55 Posted June 12, 2015 Great! Hands grow in the right direction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 14, 2015 Share #56 Posted June 14, 2015 The planking is A1. Your time and efforts are paying off. Love your bull's dog clamp idea. Will keep it in my bank for my next build! Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponto Posted June 14, 2015 Share #57 Posted June 14, 2015 Nicely done,.........one to follow for sure!! JP Quote Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsalv Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share #58 Posted June 19, 2015 Thanks to all for nice comments. I slowly continue with planking, about one half is done. Stoyne, zoly99sask, PeteB and 19 others 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 20, 2015 Share #59 Posted June 20, 2015 Your planking is coming along very nicely, Marsalv. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 20, 2015 Share #60 Posted June 20, 2015 G'day Marsalv I haven't seen in any post where the planking is so neat! Bravo Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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