Jim Lad Posted November 13, 2015 Share #1201 Posted November 13, 2015 "am pleased with the results" And so you should be, Michael! John Dimitris71, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 13, 2015 Share #1202 Posted November 13, 2015 Looks terrific, Michael! Piet and Dimitris71 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 13, 2015 Share #1203 Posted November 13, 2015 Excellent Michael - just can't think of any other words! Dimitris71, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 13, 2015 Share #1204 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) " ... and have set up to work on her over the winter..." I wish everlasting winter to all of us to have more time for modeling Nice job Edited November 13, 2015 by Nenad Piet, Omega1234, Dimitris71 and 2 others 5 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted November 14, 2015 Share #1205 Posted November 14, 2015 Excellent Michael - just can't think of any other words! I could not agree more Best Regards, Pete mtaylor, Piet, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share #1206 Posted November 14, 2015 Thanks for all the positive comments and other feedback. I made a start on the hinges, they are cut from .010" brass sheet. scales out to roughly .078 which is 14 gauge sheet. which seems reasonable enough. the strip was annealed by heating to red and then quenching in water, I could have let it cool down on its own and would have the same result. then it was folded over on itself in the milling vice with a length of .032" steel rod to support the rounded portion after the fold was nearly complete I set the folded metal so that as the vice squeezed the brass it pushed the steel rod upwards to form the full round, similar to what we do when we wrap a piece of paper around a dowel and then pinch it to become tight our finger slide a little as the paper closes together. A couple of pieces were cut off using the jewelers saw with a #7 blade the finest I have. The notches were filed out with needle files with some brass .032 rod inside as support. next I used the jewelers saw to cut off the folded flap close to the rounded portion, in order to lessen the flex of the blade I shortened the throat of the saw to approx 3 inches. Once all the rest are cut and assembled I will use the drill press to drill and countersink the holes. Just 7 more to go. Gee the close ups are brutal they show every flaw. The pieces were assembled and then squared up with a 6 inch #4 flat file Michael canoe21, PeteB, archjofo and 32 others 35 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted November 14, 2015 Share #1207 Posted November 14, 2015 Marvellous work, Michael! Piet, Dimitris71, Mirabell61 and 1 other 4 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 14, 2015 Share #1208 Posted November 14, 2015 Nice looking hinge. David B Omega1234, Piet, Landlocked123 and 3 others 6 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 14, 2015 Share #1209 Posted November 14, 2015 Those hinges look perfect from here, Michael. I like the way you made them. Fills me with ideas. Piet, Dimitris71, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted November 16, 2015 Share #1210 Posted November 16, 2015 Hi Michael - Really nice hinges. I used a similar method to make working hinges for the companionway door of a yacht America model some time ago. I do not have your skill with a jeweler's saw, so I used a length of soft iron wire inside to form the hinge barrels, and then cut straight through the whole thing with a metal cutting blade in the Preac. I think they came out pretty well. Either great minds think alike, or fools rarely differ, whichever one applies. :-)) Dan JerryTodd, Laurence_B, tadheus and 16 others 19 Quote Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 16, 2015 Share #1211 Posted November 16, 2015 Looks like you've both become unhinged.... Seriously, those are terrific looking miniature hinges that actually work. mtaylor, Piet, gjdale and 4 others 7 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted November 16, 2015 Share #1212 Posted November 16, 2015 Thanks for all the positive comments and likes it is very encouraging, and appreciated. The recent file organization has been completed and during the process I was able to fix a few photo issues in some of the early posts, a couple of links have gone AWOL (the nature of the net it seems). This evening I continued the work on the skylight. The frame material has been roughed out for all four lights. these are the 3rd and 4th sets IMG_7310x800.jpg This is the second frame glued up. IMG_7308x800.jpg and some in situ shots. IMG_7316x800.jpg IMG_7318x1024.jpg IMG_7322x1024.jpg Once all the frames are assembled I will make a few more hinges the same way as the ones for the cabin doors, I will also add the wooden bars with the horizontal metal bars to protect the glass (lexan). Michael Rail and stile panel doors in a model... I am VERY impressed! mtaylor, Omega1234, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 16, 2015 Share #1213 Posted November 16, 2015 Wow, I had some serious catching up to do. I've been reading through my lunch break, which now has become a Pilot Cutter break! Great progress again, and such astonishing detail, not as usual, for it is unsually good! Gee the close ups are brutal they show every flaw ... yes they do don't they ... which flaws were you refering to? Cheers, michael mott, Piet, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted November 16, 2015 Share #1214 Posted November 16, 2015 Beautiful work, Micheal - not something I would ever contemplate at 1:72 or even 1:48. Your right about the brutality of close up photos, but I seen no flaws in yours. Ed Jack12477, Dimitris71, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted November 18, 2015 Share #1215 Posted November 18, 2015 Michael, Your build reminds me of an article I saw in Sail or Cruising World or some other sailing magazine from several years ago. It was about a man who built beautiful Bristol Channel cutters, in the range of plus or minus 30', by himself. It was both fascinating and educational how he managed to do this. When I saw your build, it brought me right back there. I only wish I could remember his name because I believe you two are cut from the same beautiful cloth. dgbot, Dimitris71, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1216 Posted November 19, 2015 I found that article. The man's name is Bryan Gittins. Here's the article: http://www.channelcutteryachts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cruising-World-article.pdf michael mott, dgbot, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenF89 Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1217 Posted November 20, 2015 Hello Michael! I echo all the sentiments about the detail and quality of your project! Very impressive. I also couldn't help thinking that you could take some of the photos, especially the ones taken in 'third person' so to speak, combined with a bunch of the black and white close ups, and make a coffee table picture book! The artistry of many of the photos is as compelling as their subject matter. Very, very nice work. Piet, mtaylor, michael mott and 2 others 5 Quote ~ Ben ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Current Builds: 'Doll-Boat' - 1:12 scale 40' Cruising Sailboat S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald - 1:350 plastic kit w/ Photo Etch Parts (On Hold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #1218 Posted November 20, 2015 Thanks everyone it helps a great deal... having some family health concerns right now so things might be a bit spotty for a while. Julie thanks for the link I smiled when I saw Edmonton on the stern it is 50 miles west of here I go into Edmonton a lot and now it will be more frequent trips to the Hospital. to see Judy. Michael mtaylor, Piet, Julie Mo and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1219 Posted November 20, 2015 Our prayers and good wishes go with you. Bob pete48, Piet, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1220 Posted November 20, 2015 Michael, hope Judy will be OK soon. John Piet, mtaylor and Dimitris71 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1221 Posted November 20, 2015 Take care and be strong. Everything will be ok. All the best Piet, mtaylor and Dimitris71 3 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1222 Posted November 20, 2015 Julie thanks for the link I smiled when I saw Edmonton on the stern it is 50 miles west of here I go into Edmonton a lot and now it will be more frequent trips to the Hospital. to see Judy. Michael Happy to put a smile on your face, Michael. My prayers go out to Judy. Piet, mtaylor and Dimitris71 3 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1223 Posted November 21, 2015 My prayers go out as well for Judy with all the best wishes. Cheers, michael mott, avsjerome2003, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1224 Posted November 21, 2015 May she be healthy and strong and back in your loving arms soon. Dan mtaylor, Jack12477, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1225 Posted November 21, 2015 My prayers are with you as well, I hope that all goes well Best Regards, Pete Jack12477, michael mott, cog and 4 others 7 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share #1226 Posted November 21, 2015 Thank you all. michael avsjerome2003, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1227 Posted November 21, 2015 My best wishes for quick recovery to your Judy Michael! All the best Dimitris avsjerome2003, Omega1234 and Piet 3 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share #1228 Posted November 24, 2015 Thanks for all the likes and concerns for Judy, it will take a while but I'm confident all will work out well. Been a long week, but it is snowing and the roads are bad so since I had to stay home today I did manage to work a little on the hinges, picking up where I left off on Tuesday. Feels like I'm using up way too many electrons to show 32 holes in a few bits of brass. But here goes. The hinges were clamped and cut to size using the vice as a guide for the saw blade. I made a simple clamping jig so that I could drill all the holes with just 2 positions of the table. first I milled a relief slot with a 1/16th end mill in some hard aluminum scrap and clamped this in such a way as to give me the ability to use the small toolmakers clamps on the hinges. The hinges were then drilled first in the bottom left and rotated so that the top right was next.The drill diameter was .032" This shows the clamp to drill the top left which when rotated becomes the bottom right.... Are you confused yet? also the home made precountersink All drilled the drill in the picture was used between my fingers in a twirling motion to set a bit of a countersink for the 1/32 flat head rivets which will represent the screws and hold everything together. Now I just have to sort out the sequence for attaching them. Michael Remcohe, tlevine, pete48 and 24 others 27 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted November 24, 2015 Share #1229 Posted November 24, 2015 Hi Michael Good to see you back in the workshop and that Judy's on the road to recovery! Nice work on the hinges, as well. Cheers Patrick popeye the sailor, michael mott, pete48 and 6 others 9 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted November 24, 2015 Share #1230 Posted November 24, 2015 I too wish you guys all the best. As for wasting electrons, fear not! The whole idea of needing a circuit is that the electrons go home when they've done their job and are ready for work next time mtaylor, Omega1234, michael mott and 4 others 7 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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