sygreen Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #121 Posted April 12, 2015 This is the jig to get the shape of the beechwood rail. Design by Casey catopower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted April 13, 2015 Share #122 Posted April 13, 2015 Looks good, have you built the rudder yet? Let me know how the rails go, they should fit right over the sides. Also, you might want to drill the holes for the rails before glueing them on, it's easier. I found out by breaking them off and drilling. Much easier. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share #123 Posted April 13, 2015 Yes, the rudder is built and came out nice. Pictures to follow. I made the ridges exactly the size of the plans but they are a bit on the bigger size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share #124 Posted April 14, 2015 As I get ready to paint the hull, do I use primer first and then the color. Or, is the color itself enough to cover it. How many coats does it usually take? I have seen modelers on this site water down the paint and apply many more coats. What is the advantage of that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share #125 Posted April 14, 2015 Paint stores tell me that varnish is hardly ever used anymore. Polyurethane is used instead. What is the difference? Why am I constantly reading about varnish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted April 15, 2015 Share #126 Posted April 15, 2015 I on,y use primer on plastic so the paint sticks better. No need for it on wood in my opinion. I use one coat of satin polyurethane on all my ships (4 beginner kits so far) Gives them a protective coat and doesn't look too shiny. Don't know about varnish, it think it's more of a general term for a lacquer. I would check out the forums here or maybe start one with specific questions. Some of the guys on here should be able to get you a better answer. I am still learning these things as I go. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share #127 Posted April 15, 2015 Thanks Casey for your comments. I doubt I could do this without your ideas I have shaped the rail and will drill it as you suggest prior to gluing it on. I have looked at the rudder metal fasteners and they seem too long esp the top one. What did you do? Also, the metal fasteners have extra pieces of metal. They are flimsy , so how do you remove excess metal? I think I will start a thread on varnish and polyurethane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted April 15, 2015 Share #128 Posted April 15, 2015 I clipped the rudder hinges down to size. No biggie about the look,if you paint over. I used a needle nose pliers to clip and shape the hinges. They a flexible so you can adjust them to go flush with the hull. Super glue will work, I clamped them to the hull after putting on the glue. Pretty easy and looks good. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share #129 Posted April 25, 2015 Trying to figure out the correct drill size for the holes needed on the rail. Any ideas? Also, the yellow given by model expo for the hull is no where close to the picture on the box. Not bright enough. Any ideas on what the correct yellow is called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted May 1, 2015 Share #130 Posted May 1, 2015 the drill size you want is 1.5mm i just found a yellow i liked and went with it, it was Sunflower Yellow. i bought it at Michaels in the cheap paint section acrylics Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share #131 Posted May 1, 2015 Hi Casey, Checked out your yellow and it is much closer to what I like. I'll go to Michaels and check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share #132 Posted May 3, 2015 Here is my finished hull, prior to painting Got the rudder shaped and attached The rails were predrilled prior the glueing A few small mistakes but any comments welcomed Harvey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted May 3, 2015 Share #133 Posted May 3, 2015 Looking good ! sygreen 1 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share #134 Posted May 3, 2015 I am starting to paint the transom . Probably an idiot question but do I seal the paint on the metal piece with polyurethane? Although I will be using flat or satin finish for the entire hull, will it look nice if I added glossy just to the metallic gold pieces?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share #135 Posted May 4, 2015 I have multiple areas of excess CA glue stains on the walnut hull and the wales. Do I care about sanding them out completely or will the painting hide them anyway? Also , what is the best way to clean the wales as they will be only stained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted May 4, 2015 Share #136 Posted May 4, 2015 I sealed the metal with poly. As for the wales I taped them off during everything so they didn't get too messed up. I'll post more pics this week Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted May 4, 2015 Share #137 Posted May 4, 2015 I painted my transom in gold paint and I like it. Give the hull a good sand and the CA shouldn't show through the paint. Good idea to tape off the wales though. Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harbm Posted May 6, 2015 Share #138 Posted May 6, 2015 wow! you've been productive! looks really nice, good job! I've been away for a while but back now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harbm Posted May 31, 2015 Share #139 Posted May 31, 2015 Hey sygreen, did you use drop planks and the like when planking the hull (as shown here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/plankingprojectbeginners.pdf) or did you just lay the planks regularly? I am worried that if I continue planking the downward the planks are going to get too curved, like a really happy smiley face. How did you do this part? Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share #140 Posted May 31, 2015 Planking was very difficult for me. Are you on the first layer? Dropped some planks but also gradually narrowed to the planks by approx half, starting where the planks began to overlap at both the bow and stern. Ended up by using lots of filler (probably too much) on the first planking. Second planking was a bit easier. Used the same technique but because it was thinner, it was easier to curve. I'll post it on your site as well. Show me pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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