dgbot Posted July 19, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 19, 2014 Well after 3 kits I think I am up to the challenge. The Maine was commissioned in 1895. She was sent to Cuba during their revolt against Spain to protect US interests. Despite being out of date when built the Mainh was considered an advance in American naval design. In 1898 the Maine suffered an explosion which killed most of the crew. At the time the explosion was used as an excuse for the US to enter the conflict. Now it is believed that dust from the coal bunkers caused a flash explosion. The first thing I did was look over the plans and the instructions. David B Nirvana, Captain Slog, riverboat and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slog Posted July 20, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 20, 2014 Hi David, Wow straight in to the next build! Looking forward to this. Cheers Slog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 20, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 20, 2014 I think I'll pull up a chair in the front row.. This should be an interesting build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted July 20, 2014 1/250 I just hope I can do it justice. David B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted July 20, 2014 I might have to get a German to English dictionary. The first thing I did was cut out and fold the bottom hull. Once the spine was cut out I added a reinforcing strip to make it a little stiffer. The spine was then glued to the bottom hull. David B riverboat, Piet, hamilton and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted July 22, 2014 Once the spine was glued into place I proceeded to cut out and fit the bulkheads. Making alterations as needed as each one was dry fitted before hand. Another thing I learned was to use the glue sparingly. It dried faster and less chance of warping the paper. Dry fitting the part Making the alteration as needed So far so good. David B CurtisW, WackoWolf, riverboat and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted July 22, 2014 Share #7 Posted July 22, 2014 I'm pulling up a seat too. Fascinating ship and I'll enjoy seeing this built from card. Steve WackoWolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted July 23, 2014 Share #8 Posted July 23, 2014 Just found your new build and joined to public Nenad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted July 24, 2014 After double checking the bulkeads I started on the hauptdeck or main deck. It came in two parts, the bow and the stern. I decided to work on the stern first. The first thing to do was seperate them from the sheet Then came the dry fitting, This is important never glue anything until you are really sure you are going to be happy with the results. It was through this process that I discovered an error in the plan. It was missing the slots for one of the bulkeads. After marking out the location I made a slot Then came the fun part of moving and flexing the paper without tearing to get it to fit aft section. The rest of the part was then fitted, then came smoothing it out so that it lies evenly. No glue has been used yet. David B Captain Slog, SGraham, riverboat and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted July 25, 2014 Once the aft deck was dryfitted I did the same with the front part. Once I was sure of the fit I then glued the decks down. So far so good. David B hexnut, mtaylor, hamilton and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted July 27, 2014 The next piece I worked on was the Aufbauwand hinten. In place of photo etched parts extra panels were added to give a 3d effect. So the first thing I did was cutout these pieces and glued them to the main piece. Then came the fun part of gluing it to the deck. This took some time. Once more the old saying less is more came into play for the glue. Just a light touch gave me all the tack I needed. Plus no overage and weakening of the part. So far so good. David B riverboat, mtaylor, SGraham and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted July 27, 2014 Share #12 Posted July 27, 2014 I'm really glad you're posting this, David. This is the first card model I've watched come together. How rigid is the structure at this point? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted July 27, 2014 Share #13 Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Hi David - Nice progress on the card model. I did not know that it existed, or I might have looked at it when I was building my Maine (1:72) for the Brooklyn Navy Yard Museum. The card model looks accurate, which is not easy, because none of the known plans of the Maine are "as built". They are all earlier or later examples in the design process and differ in large or small details from the actual ship. If you want to see what she did look like, go to the site for the US Library of Congress and search the site for the USS Maine (you will get a few hits for the second USS Maine, but these are easily distinguished and can be ignored). During her 2 year career a photographer from a Detroit newspaper or organization got access and took a number of large format photographs. Some are of the entire ship and some were taken on board with groups of officers or crewmen. They show lots and lots of details that do not appear on the plans. The LoC has had them scanned at several resolutions. The largest is 1200 dpi, which means that each square inch of the photo has over 1 megabyte of information. You can download them free if your system can handle it. If you do, you can take a photo of the entire ship and zoom in until you can see the facial expressions on individual sailors, as well as all the fittings, weapons, railings, decorative details, and even the rivets on the hull plates. There is no better resource than this. Some photos of my own model can be seen on the NRG website. I have others if you think they might help. Best of success with the project, she is coming along very nicely. Dan Edited July 27, 2014 by shipmodel riverboat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted July 27, 2014 The basic hull is starting to become more rigid so I cannot manhandle it. The biggest trouble I have now is making sure everything is cut properly. David B Kurt Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 27, 2014 Share #15 Posted July 27, 2014 Hi, David. Just got back from Mexico and saw you were on your way with this model. A couple of things to keep in mind with this model: 1) HMV design tolerances are very tight, so be very careful about positioning parts. With so many pieces, cumulative 'error creep' can be a problem. 2) I believe HMV has a laser-cut detail set for this model available now. If so, it is well worth the money. 3) Be prepared for some design glitches. I have this model about half-built, so I may be able to help you when you run into snags. Cheers! riverboat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the advice Chris. I looked into the laser set but it is unavailable. Thanks for looking in Dan. This model is a great learning experience. And as Chris has stated it has a few wrinkles that I have to watch out for. David B Edited July 27, 2014 by dgbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Before I finished the house I cut out the Aufbauwand hinten and started building it up. The first part was the easiest just fold and attach to the wall. David B Edited August 2, 2014 by dgbot Piet, shipmodel, SGraham and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted August 2, 2014 The next part or front turrets I am not sure of the terminolgy were cut out and built up. Once the part was dry I used a bamboo skewer to form the folds and bends. This was then glued into place. One of the things I was worried about was alignment so the assembly was not glued down yet. This might seem a little childish but I have already learned the hard way plus the warning from Brian C to be careful. Down the road I am glad I did. David B SGraham, WackoWolf, Captain Slog and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #19 Posted August 4, 2014 The next piece of business was the roofs of the for and aft cabins. Basically cut them out and put in the plugs for the holds. This was straight forward just keep a steady hand and a sharp knife. The holds were put together by folding them and adding a piece of paper to the back to aid in the glue up. Then everything was glued together David B shipmodel, mtaylor, Dimitris71 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted August 4, 2014 Share #20 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Hi David - I haven't appreciated card models very much before this, but this one seems to be quite accurate. You are doing a very neat job too. Looking good. The curved front pieces that you just assembled are not the turret itself. They are a set of six hinged doors. A 5 inch gun is mounted on a rotating base behind them. The barrel extends snugly through the large black dot (hole) at the corner of 4 of the doors. In combat the doors would all be opened to allow the barrel to traverse and elevate. There is a matching pair at the stern as well. I am following your progress with great interest. Dan Edited August 4, 2014 by shipmodel mtaylor, WackoWolf, dgbot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted August 4, 2014 Thanks Dan, like I said my German is not that good. This was gift from the clubs in Chicago and I want to do it justice. I will probably be begging for help on detail down the road to enhance it. I already picked up some raw umber and plan on getting some black watercolor paint as well. Hobby Lobby has what I am looking for. Question what kind if stock is this paper? David B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted August 4, 2014 Share #22 Posted August 4, 2014 David - I don't know what kind of paper your model is made from. Chris would be a better one to answer that question. My one suggestion in dealing with paper decking that I use is to give is several coats of clear satin finish. If I don't do that the paper changes shape and size when I apply water based glue to put it down. Feel free to ask about details of the ship as you continue the build. Happy to help. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share #23 Posted August 4, 2014 Thanks Dan. One of the things I have learned is you do not need a lot. Plus rubber cement can be used for super large pieces. David B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted August 13, 2014 I have been able to get some more into the Maine and was able to finish off the two cabins. And here is where I found that rubbing alcohol can be your best friend. While fitting the roof of the forward cabin I noticed that the walls were not fully aligned. By using a brush and a drop of rubbing alcohol I was able to reposition everything for a better fit. Plus the alcohol evaporated quickly and did not stain or damage the material. Once the roof was placed to my satisfaction I glued it down using a weight to hold it until the glue dried. Then a little touch up with a brush and it is about as good as I can make it. . David B riverboat, Elia, canoe21 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF Posted August 13, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 13, 2014 David - It's looking really good! It looks like you are using the most important tools, a sharp knife and patience. Keep up the good work, and keep those photos coming. Your shipmates in Tri-Club will expect a full presentation when you come home. BobF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted August 13, 2014 The aft deck was pretty much the same way but once more the alcohol saved the day. One of the items I found usful for applying glue is a dental pic. Not only will it apply glue it helps to put pressure on the joint as well. On the aft deck to help with the tabs I used a ruler and some weight to get an even edge Then after reworking the cabin sides I started to fit the roof. Dry fitting it first. And once more a weight was used to help keep everything straight. Then I proceeded to touch up the edges. David B canoe21, mtaylor, hamilton and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted August 13, 2014 The next item was the hull. The sides were two parts each. The first thing was to cut them out and glue them together. I used a piece of scrap on the back at the joint and a straight edge to make sure it was lined up properly. Then I cut out and applied the accents. This part was the nerve racking part where a steady hand and a sharp scalpel came in handy. David B Captain Slog, Dimitris71, shipmodel and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #28 Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Once everything was added to the side panels they were glued into place. The first thing I did was to tack the bow sections in place so I could make sure everything was even on both sides. And glued the sides to the hull. I then noticed that one side was about a 1/16 to short. So I cut a section and added a strip to make it fit. A little pressure and the seam is hardly noticable. I will proceed to hide it as I proceed with the model. David B Edited August 13, 2014 by dgbot bhermann, Dimitris71, SGraham and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted August 14, 2014 Share #29 Posted August 14, 2014 Possibility of card models in good hands supprise me over and over. Keep a good work, my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #30 Posted August 23, 2014 Time for another update. I started working on the center house. Once more I cut out the panels and applied the extra panels. I also cut out the deck and started to fit them into place. So far so good David B hexnut, Mirabell61, canoe21 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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