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Halve Maen by hlipplaa - 1/30 - POB - ~1608 - Dutch East India Company


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Hello my name is Hjalmar i'm 30 years old and I come from Amsterdam. I havent introduced myself on the forum section for making introductions, I hope noone minds.

 

I'm building a model from drawings i got from a dutch modelling site. The scale is 1:30 and i'm using pear and apple wood mostly. It's a bulkhead structure planked and the sides have veneer second planking. The topside planks are about 2 mm pear. The first planking layer is limewood.

 

I'm using a phone camera so i hope the resolution is good enough.

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Thanks for the kind replies. Does anyone perhaps have a tip for me how to remove UHU Hart glue from wood. I can only think of carefully sanding.

The glue contains methylacetate and n-butylacetate i believe.

 

The problem with sanding the little boat is its very fragile. But a solvent and wiping it off may cause joints to become weak too.

 

Anyway, i hope ill hav some progress to show soon. I just got a mini lathe for my birthday so i can turn wood now. Gonna make a capstan first i think, plenty of examples on this forum i've already seen.

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Hello Hjalmar,  welcome a'board.  Love those old Dutch ships, that's why I started a self design of an imaginary VOC ship of around 1665 era.  Put that aside to make a model of my father's submarine of the Koninklijke Marine he was on from 1938 to the end of 1941.  Both are listed under my signature.

 

That's a nice large scale for your model, that gives you ample chance to do some great detailing.  I'll be following your build with interest.

 

Seems my whole family is from Amsterdam, loved to visit and spend many an hour in the "Scheepvaart Museum."

 

Well, I emigrated to the USA in 1957 and am retired now and live in Palm Coast, Florida, love it.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Piet and also Sawdusdave i've seen your builds they're both great. I'm going to make alot of details indeed, hope it works out well.

I'm doing the standing rigging. No sails but all the other rigging i mean.

Hope ill have something nice to show soon.

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hello Hjalmar......welcome to the Halve Maen fan club! :) super work your doing thus far....looking forward in seeing more progress on your fine build! ;) your new.......welcome! not a problem jumping right into a build.........hit the ground runn'in! :D

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Almost all the major deck fittings are done. Only need to make a flagpole. Then small details need to be done.

 

But now i have to decide what to do, stain it or not. The wood used for the decks is apple and the rest of the wood mostly is pear. Not sure if staining will make it look better.

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judging from all the nooks and crannies......I think it would be a trial to stain. then again, I know better than tell a modeler something is impossible ;) it might be better to lay on some clear coat and let the wood grain pop! very nicely done.....she's a beauty :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Made some clamps on the masts, made the gun port hatches, varnished the ship. Made a flagpole.

 

There are alot of different models with different solutions or interpretations of what the ship used to look like.

 

I have a question:

 

I dont know what these parts are called but they are used to belay heavy lines. Something like a bollard. I made a picture to show what i mean. I've seen different versions on diffrent models and on the half moon replica from Albany.

 

If someone could tell me what to call these parts, i know im showing only the on-deck part of it, they run belowdeck and are a structural part of ht e ships construction.

 

So if someone could tell me what part 1 and 2 are called it would be really helpfull for my "research". Of course i will be eternally grateful.

 

Part one is connected with a big block to the line(s) that are connected the yards i believe.

Part two is located in front of the main mast.

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Both in dutch:

1 knecht, used to hoist the main yard. Positioned about were your little hatch behind the main mast is.....

2 beting, and i very much doubt whether that thing was there on this ship. Belaying lines this was was quite unusual on early dutch ships. Lines were either belsyed on a knecht, on on clamps on the mast, or on the inside of the railing.

 

Jan

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there are various forms of sampson posts and fife rails, which is what you have pictured above. I have a few pictures of the ship, but they don't show these aspects very well. I'm going with what the Billing supplied parts produce........once the deck is sealed, I can start fitting out the deck layout. I like what you did with the dead eyes.......not sure what I want to do, but I may just keep with the supplied parts here as well.

 

very nice progress!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Thanks for informing me.

 

By the way i dont have a kit i make everything myself from scratch, except for the deadeye blocks which i bought.

 

On the replica ship of the half moon there is a knecht near the main and mizzen mast and also a beting.

 

On my drawings there are only clamps on the masts and pin rails on the sides.

 

On many models on this site theres a knecht near all three masts.

 

So i think ill make one near the main mast or next to it. And one near the mizzen mast. The foremast has lines running through the deck.

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Thereshould bea knechtbehind every mast. It was needed to hoist the yards.

I would follow your drawings with respect to the beting (or actually absenceof it)

You could make a less heavy build pinrack. These ships had only one heavy beting: just behindthe fore mast, on the lower deck. This was used to belay the anchor ropes.

 

Jan

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