William Blackmore Posted July 8, 2013 Share #301 Posted July 8, 2013 Thanks Guys. I think it may be an issue with age. This kit has been in my stash since the early 1990's. I have also had the same issue with one of the Heller "Conqusitador" kits that I found on the evil bay site. This was one of the very early versions of this kit. Being one who believes that kits were made to be built, I set to work on it only to find the same issue. In fairness to Tenax I have used it for years with few problems, but it does occassianlly do the same thing to some pieces of Evergreen stock. I also agree with Andy, and I do use the Ambroid as well. Good stuff but stinks to high Heaven. I guess in some cases it may be useful to go with some basic Testor's glue. Thanks for the input. Cheers!William popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
popeye the sailor Posted July 9, 2013 Share #302 Posted July 9, 2013 I use the testor's red tube.......it can also be purchased in the black decanters {which is more liquid}. I haven't used the Ambroid glues for quite a while now..........it is a good glue. it's one of the few glues out there that can be used for wood, as well as plastic. I used to work in injection molding....worked with neoprene and the harder plastics. in the early days, model kits were created with white, or a creme colored plastic. through suggestions from modelers that found it hard in painting their models, companies began to add color to the plastics, to aide in the problems brought to their attention. this sometimes created problems with the plastic formulas......soft plastic, and plastic composition problems being the biggest ones. it can also cause the cements to react differently as well. I've run into things like the cement not welding properly....poor bonding, to having to wait till the next day, due to distortion problems if a continued on with what I was doing. I used to revel when this happened though.........I could mix pieces of sprues in with some cement and make my own putty...LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Haw Posted July 9, 2013 Share #303 Posted July 9, 2013 Hi Daniel, Just catching up on your log again. Fantastic detailed work on the gunport lids...really impressive! Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Posted July 19, 2013 Share #304 Posted July 19, 2013 Dafi - i Just love what you put into this - some lovely ideas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share #305 Posted July 21, 2013 Thank you for your intrest and your great support! ...hihihihihihi... ...hohohohohoho... ... looks like dafi entered the coffee roasting business too ... ...hihihihihi... XXXDAn Dubz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
realworkingsailor Posted July 21, 2013 Share #306 Posted July 21, 2013 Um.... Sure hope those are coffee beans... Not something Kevin's wabbits left all over the table.... Andy gjdale 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share #307 Posted July 21, 2013 Do not worry Andy, I did not steal Kevins properties ;-) This is how it looks if Fimo/Milliput is baked with 230° Celsius instead of 110° as blind dafi got confused by the english temperature beside the german writing and vica versa ... ... nicely black and blown up ... .... so got the Fimo out again ... ... first the ball, then the thick sausage, then a medium sausage of 4 mm with the use of a small sheet with 4 mm spacers, and then the thin sausage of 3 mm with the flipside ot the tool with 3 mm spacers. Afterwards I used a "comb" with small wires in 2 mm distance to roll in the 7 lashings representing the 7 seas ... ... then bent the parts, distributed it on the oven plate and baked on the right tempersture. Funny to see the bloated black been beside. And I got a nice stack of rolled hammocks :-) Then filed the touching surfaces ... ... glued the parts together while paying tribute to gravity in the middle of the nettings. This is still the rough version, paint will be easy, but the netting will still need some fiddling around to be figured out properly ... All the best, Daniel DCooper, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AntiSpiral Posted July 21, 2013 Share #308 Posted July 21, 2013 i've been looking at your build for a while now, and i think its time to say that your work detail is stunning and the things you come up with are ingenious, true craftsmanship, love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ensign Posted July 21, 2013 Share #309 Posted July 21, 2013 You're in good company Daniel with our King Alfred, he had trouble with ovens A realistic result and a great solution, best I've seen. Cheers, M. dafi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DCooper Posted July 21, 2013 Share #310 Posted July 21, 2013 Marvellous! The best kind of post; inventive, informative and artistic. Thanks. Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
popeye the sailor Posted July 22, 2013 Share #311 Posted July 22, 2013 I never knew of how the sleeping arrangements were, on a tall ship, until I came here you give a good narration of how they look Daniel....it will be really cool to see this bit of detail fully assembled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtaylor Posted July 22, 2013 Share #312 Posted July 22, 2013 I'm glad that was the oven causing the problem. I wasn't sure what you were up to with the blackened bits. Hammocks came out super looking. It would appear that bosun didn't have to smack anyone upside the head for not rolling their hammock properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #313 Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Thank you Antispiral, B.E., Dan, Popeye and Mark :-) But the starter came out fast and swift and afterwards the hammocks looked much more tidy, especially on the bottom :-) XXXDAn PS: The cranes are bend open for easier handling and black lines of the lashing are mere orientation for me and are not meant to stay. Edited July 22, 2013 by dafi jaerschen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Posted July 22, 2013 Share #314 Posted July 22, 2013 Dafi - good morning would the netting be removed to stow the hammocks, leaving the wire to stop them falling overboard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #315 Posted July 22, 2013 No Kevin, the netting is just omitted until now as it is the last thing to be fixed for modeling reasons. It is always there, with hammocks, without (as seen in Portsmouth) and even when the protecting covers are over the hammock cranes. XXXDAn Kevin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gjdale Posted July 22, 2013 Share #316 Posted July 22, 2013 Ingenious Daniel, as we've come to expect from you! Must say though, I'm glad it wasn't Kevin's wabbits responsible for that first mess!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4whelr Posted July 22, 2013 Share #317 Posted July 22, 2013 Daniel, Fantastic work!!! I applaud your attention to detail! Oh, I probably won't ask you to bake me a cake!!! Eddie dafi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #318 Posted July 22, 2013 Thank you Grant and Eddie, I promise to not spoil you with my cakes ;-) The good thing on such a complex model is, if you do not have too much time, there is always a small corner that fits to the time slot :-) XXXDAn riverboat, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #319 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Thank you Lawrence, "seam to apply them so easily" it just seems so, I already was breaking my mind for some months with this topic before I started working and still things came out totally different than expected - even not to mention the affair with "Kevins wabbits beans". It is always a bit of a darkride like typing some unknown numbers of a telefonbook and making the best out of the conversations that comes along ... The marks are 1,5 mm in hight :-) All the best, Daniel Edited July 23, 2013 by dafi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
popeye the sailor Posted July 23, 2013 Share #320 Posted July 23, 2013 gee........they don't look that thick.........I really like them! I copied and imported some of these roman numerals into my decal maker. now, in the decal maker, I can size them to whatever I want........the problem is.......is that the ink jet printers do not print white. I could use white paper {white film}.......but the backgroung will need to be colored the same as where they are to be applied. the problem here is the spectrum that a printer uses.......it never seem to match the exact color used. another problem is the transparency issue I've had in the past...........the funny thing is, I just got a thought while I was writing this. most printers max out at 600 DPI......especially with lighter colors, they seem to get lost in the background if it's dark. I've been using the normal print.........what if I went to bold print? if I had some paper handy, I could try this out. you mentioned doing something with decals a while ago.......I'll look forward in seeing what your take is on this process. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Posted July 23, 2013 Share #321 Posted July 23, 2013 was there ever depth marking on the stern? say around the stern post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #322 Posted July 23, 2013 Hello Popeye and Kevin, the height is 1,5 mm, the thickness is 0,2 mm :-) Yes there were on the stern too: #296 And here the ones from Royal George', that sank in 1782: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/63420.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/102769.html XXXDAn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
popeye the sailor Posted July 23, 2013 Share #323 Posted July 23, 2013 ahhhhh.........now that looks sweet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share #324 Posted July 25, 2013 So far so good, but the next part was a bit scary ... ... you remember, on the heads and in the fighting tops I already tried some netting. But it was quite ridgit and I knew not what would come out now. So put the gaze into a cardboard frame ... ... and painted nicely with beige, added some plain white and dirtied it with very diluted black ink. Easy to see how the appearance became more homogenous. Then did a test fit and realised how the holes got stuck on the hammock cranes ... ... but it looked ok so far. Some test handling on the outside ... ... proved that the netting should curl outside instead of inside. Then introduced some papers as introduction help and introducing the netting was no subject of getting stuck any more :-) Got the front paper out, adjusted the height towards the rope ... ... and glued with CA the netting onto the rope . Then used the hammocks to press down the netting ... ... pulled out the back paper and also the hammocks, used pincers to hold rope and netting together and used CA to fix. Then cut the side length ... Dubz, JerseyCity Frankie, riverboat and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share #325 Posted July 25, 2013 ... and the most tricky, cleaning up the top edge with some fine and sharp nail scissors - without cutting the top rope! Looks intriguing enough :-) And another fascinating task, painting the hammocks using my beloved casein paints with all kind of whiter shades of pale ... ... looking if the colors work if hidden behind the netting ... ... some differentiation with some more different shades of ochre ... ... put in place ... ... gently and pushed in :-) Fascinating! And as you see on the left - the Tic-Tac would not fit in :-) Good night and sleep well, Daniel popeye the sailor, Blue Ensign, gjdale and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtaylor Posted July 25, 2013 Share #326 Posted July 25, 2013 As always, excellent work, Daniel. So, is this on your 'test pieces' or on the real model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ensign Posted July 25, 2013 Share #327 Posted July 25, 2013 Great result Daniel M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
popeye the sailor Posted July 26, 2013 Share #328 Posted July 26, 2013 I love the way your mind works..........I quite agree.....fasinating! this is photo etch...am I correct.....in the early pictures, I notice the tiny holes in the weave.....so cool. I do wonder if the airbrush would make a better delivery for the paint. brushes tend to push the paint into gaps and places one would not want the paint to go......leaving the texture detail to remain. I intend to do something like this on the United States........I have a good amount of tulle on hand. I think it will work..can't wait to try it. beautifully done Daniel......always pleasing to the eyes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dafi Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share #329 Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Thank you Mark, B.E., Robin and Popeye :-) Very appreciated! Yes Popeye, those are the cranes from my own etch part series (some subliminal advertising) :-) These are even not painted but only blackened using the normal Krick blackener. I use this one on all the brass parts (apart from assembly instructions) as it provides a good base for painting and avoids shiny gaps where the color did not end up. All the best, Daniel Edited July 26, 2013 by dafi popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gjdale Posted July 26, 2013 Share #330 Posted July 26, 2013 Fantastic work Daniel. You never disappoint!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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