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I love the way your mind works..........I quite agree.....fasinating!  :)      this is photo etch...am I correct.....in the early pictures,  I notice the tiny holes in the weave.....so cool.   I do wonder if the airbrush would make a better delivery for the paint.   brushes tend to push the paint into gaps and places one would not want the paint to go......leaving the texture detail to remain.   I intend to do something like this on the United States........I have a good amount of tulle on hand.  I think it will work..can't wait to try it.   beautifully done Daniel......always pleasing to the eyes  ;)

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Thank you Mark, B.E., Robin and Popeye :-)

 

Very appreciated!

 

Yes Popeye, those are the cranes from my own etch part series (some subliminal advertising) :-)

 

These are even not painted but only blackened using the normal Krick blackener. I use this one on all the brass parts (apart from assembly instructions) as it provides a good base for painting and avoids shiny gaps where the color did not end up.

 

All the best, Daniel

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Thank you Sirs, very appreciated, just trying my best, sometimes it works out fine :-)

 

As we had in interesting discussion in Kevins build log, my curiosity was drawn to the storage of the spare spars and the fore stun´ sail booms.

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So I took my spare Vic to check the spare spar businesses ...

 

Plenty of sources state that the spare spares were stowed over the waist, but what does this mean place wise? Something I always suspected, that those two half rounds in the rail at the front were to support those ...

 

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... but I never really realised the openings in the aft rail.

 

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Like this the main and the fore topmasts fit in properly. (Note: the main could be moved back a tiny bit still)

According to Goodwin in Nelsons Ships the Vic received spare topmasts and booms in between the 15 and 19th of April 1778

 

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Also to be seen, the main and fore yards on the gangways are far to long. As they were made yards, can it be that they were still taken apart?

 

This also means, that the middle boat most possibly was sitting on the spars.

 

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And on the last one I still added the fore stun´ sail booms to check out this length too

 

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PS: There still is the smallest boat missing, it would sit port aft.

 

Cheers, DAniel

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It was always considered an open deck - even though the decks above. Living was one deck lower. That is why there are also no bulkheads front and aft the waist and no gunport lids in this area.

 

Daniel

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i understand that, but unable to understand, or read why it is an uncovered deck, 

 

im not suggesting that a couple of cabins were built in that area and the ships boats stowed on top of that, but it would have given a better opportunity for stowage, im sure i will find an answer one day

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And one more thing ...

 

;-)

 

I do believe it was not sliding the anchor into the hole in the netting ...

 

... it was much more opening two ropes that were holding the hetting, swinging the netting back, handling the anchor without obstruction and putting the netting back.

 

Also, this was an anchor, that was not in constant use.

 

Love and peace, Daniel

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-fail-fail-fail-

 

Was waiting already but nobody mentioned so far the missing side tackles on the guns ;-)

 

But lazy dafi was trying to avoid work and was looking for easy-easy-easy way of cheating: casting he believed would be the easy option, making two halves and glueing them together in the required length ...

 

... 30 times lashed and 6 times in position ...

 

... lazy bastard ...

 

So made very fastily blocks out of Evergreen rods ...

 

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... went fast, drilled with 0,5 mm after setting a centre punch, fastily drilled  ...

 

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... and cut to length on a double sided tape.

 

 

Small tail in the end ...

 

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... some wire rope into the blocks ...

 

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... and we got some cute sado-maso-killer-sperms :-)

 

Happily made some wire lashings around ...

 

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... did the castings ...

 

... and cried my eyes out as the resin needed for those tiny bits was pure waste ...

 

... and the parts too small and flimsy for mass production ...

 

... and on top of it the cleaning of the parts ...

 

... then realised that I need to paint them ... 

 

... and the looks were not what i had in mind ...

 

... so got out the big chopper and reduced some parts ...

 

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... to fit a nice fresh meal for the poor little sailors, sittings for weeks already in front of their empty plates ...

 

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... and the rest ...

 

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... went into Tar Jack´s box of the dead hallows, where all discarded parts end up.

 

And so much for the wasted brainwaves, material and time to make it easy and fast ?!?

 

And then I realised, how easy it could have been ...

 

... more soon.

 

XXXDAn

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I dunno......I was thinking about the diorama.......there really isn't that much deck there to do anything with....let alone gun carriages and rigging.  you have me at a loss.......I'm resigned to sit back and watch all this unfold.   it was kinda cool to see you make those blocks.....I have a small bin with a bunch of blocks from past 1:96 scale builds....I don't have the heart to throw them away  ;)

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Somewhere, somehow, sometimes I was wondering what I was doing ...

 

... and tried to remember, how things should look like, took some Evergreen, drilled some blocks, took 2 of my etch parts hooks (ATTENTION: Product placement), took some line, and after some hooks and turns ... 

 

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... that easy, so easy, so lessens learned: No more cheating attempts!!! (Message to myself: Write this down a 100 times to never forget again)

 

So produced new blocks, punched some holes with the scriber on the 1 x 2 mm rod for the double blocks ...

 

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... and on the 1 x 1 mm rod for the single blocks ...

 

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... drilled with 0,5 mm ...

 

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... and roughened the surface with a abrasive fleece.

 

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While cutting to length I used the scalpel to round the surface and out came an amount of itzy-bitzy-teeny-wheeny extra small blocks.

 

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Instead of painting I remembered tinting, a trick I once used successful while my studies on polyamide spheres: Tinting powder for synthetic fiber. But does this work for polystyrene? 

 

So the powder with vinegar and the parts into the pot and boil well and long :-)

 

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The toughest was to find the itzy-bitzy-teeny-wheeny extra small blocks in this mess in between the remains of undissolved color powder ...

 

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... and it really worked! Not as well as I thought it would, but well enough for my needs.

 

On the bigger parts one can see how much the color was absorbed and on the smaller ones particles of the powder even gave darker spots.

 

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Fixed the drill upside down ...

 

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... used it to hold the block, knotted a thread onto one of my blackened hooks and attached it with some CA onto the block.

 

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Then knotted the backside and fixed all well with CA. The single block was done accordingly, just one side of the thread was left long  ...

 

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... to serve as lanyard, the ensemble put to length and secured with CA. Then the lanyard was wound round on the serving machine, checked ...

 

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... and fits  :-)

 

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A tad too short for this place, but this one will fit aft, where there is difference in lengths because of the curve of the hull. :-)

 

Cheers, dafi

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XXXDAn

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NOW CLASS..........uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Jimmy...........Now give me that knife!

KA...................................<THUNK>

thank you!

 

Awwwww,  no need to punish yourself :)   we've all done thing to try and speed up a process or two.   sometimes it turns around and bites us,  but if it works......all the better!    I was thinking of your diorama..........I did look back in the thread as well.....figured I missed something.   I did give thought to the actual model........but that was way back there,  in the log.   you know...it's funny,  but for a long time,  I never knew that there was more rigging to the cannons than met the eye.   Revell never showed this added bit of rigging detail,  they just showed the breech ropes.  I come here.......and boy,  my eyes were opened wide....the things I never saw.  this is the reason why I like your build log here so much.......you expose so much to the light......shine on you crazy diamond!

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Thank you Popeye, Lawrence, Frank, Mark, Kevin, Dubz and Davy :-)

 

No more cheating attempts! No more cheating attempts! No more cheating attempts ...

 

And one more reason why ...

 

... as the cheat was already planned for a long time, when I assembled the carriages, I omitted the eyebolt for the side tackle ...

 

... and fixed the guns ...

 

... yes the ring was meant to be faked ...

 

... meant ...

 

... yep ...

 

...and now ???

 

So learn it the hard way dafi.

 

Luckily the Flying Spaghetti Monster made me do the holes for the eyebolts at the times that the carriages were assembled, so with pointed pliers ...

 

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... the CA-hardened breeching ropes were slid beside and the ring pushed in. Unfortunately just makable in the wrong vertical orientation ...

 

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... so it still had to be turned with a pointed scaler :-)

Luckily I did some ships in the bottle when I was young ...

 

 

And after being in a teeny-weeny-mode, I decided to want to have the rings for the back tackles done the right way, so I took some of my smallest etch eyebolts (attention product placement for dafis smaller than life etch parts), combined with the next size ...

 

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... and got something that just fitted the purpose :-)

 

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Cheers, Daniel

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Nonononononononononono, I swear!

 

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;-)

 

XXXDAn

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