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What's you planning? More destruction on the lower deck, or fixing the beams, and start working at a higher level?

(btw, the diners: will they get some colour?)

Jan

 

... as if I ever knew what I was planning ...

 

... would save a lot of work from the devastation team ,-)

 

The pale color was on purpose and much more a hint towards the flavorless food combined with seasickness. Was this too much or should I still add a faint green shade over the faces?

 

Anyway, I think the lower deck still holds some subjects to discover for me and I am looking forwards to endeavor those realms of ignorance on my side.

 

Let the odyssey continue :-)

 

XXXDAn

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Sooooooooo it looks already a bit more friendly by now ...

 

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... closed the gaps with Evergreen and Apoxy-Sculpt ...

 

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... and the new steps are a awaiting :-)

 

A good trick to get an even result ist to just first fix every second one ...

 

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... and use the ones in between to average out the rhythm :-)

 

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And to finish put the crown onto its place :-)

 

Cheers, Daniel
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This build continues to be more than amazing. 

 

I zoomed in as much as I could on the scene where the crew are eating, but I did not see any biscuit weevils on the table. Did I miss something? ;)

(Maybe they are just underway and the hardtack is still fresh, or so long at sea that they are eating them as protein...)

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... they already have the beef in the mouth but still are chewing for quite a while already ...

 

... thats why they still sit for so long in front of the now empty plates ...

 

... or are they waiting to be served as the helper with the barrel wanting to catch the rations still is waiting in front of the stairway to heaven - means the companionway that leads into nowhere towards the not yet done stove above on the still non existing middle deck ...

 

...

 

... smells like mutiny could break out soon ...

 

...

 

...

 

XXXDAn

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And now some other important steps in life :-)

 

Applied a very thin layer of paint to judge the situation ...

 

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... and realised immediately that some steps were applied a bit crooked. So taking them down carefully, reglueing and filling the gaps.


 

Prepared the doorway of the port ...

 

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... carved the panelling ...

 

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... and it looks already more friendly than some days ago :-)

 

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XXXDAn
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Thank you!!!

 

Painted the side parts of the entry port, first yellow ochre ...

 

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... added the gold ...

 

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... starts to look quite noble :-)

 

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Then the old question about closing the port:

 

Just for discussion: once like a gunport lid solid ...

 

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... and once painted sailcloth on a wooden frame like the bulkheads.

 

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Both Versions ...

 

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... on the backside once a solid board, once as a frame, both with eyebolts to hold.

 

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And now again the question - how was the side entry port closed?!?

 

Asked Karl Heinz Marquardt, he knows of no system, even speculates on leaving the port open. I believe there must have been something as there were sleeping hammocks just beside. As all doors or other permanent fittings were sooner or later represented in models, I guess upon a flexible solution, a board or a frame with sailcloth, logically fixed on the outside like a gunport lid but held towards the inner side by eyebolts and rope.

 

So any idea or even better proves how it was fixed ?!?

 

Cheers Daniel

 

XXXDAn
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Thank you Mark, i think there are no proves for a sliding door in this area. I had a small discussion already here:


 

And as I was on the gooooooooooooooo, the old paneling on the other side ...

 

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... was thrown out too and replaced.

 

But as a goody ...

 

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... I fixed the ropes to help to go aloft :-)

 

XXXDAn

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there was never a door for the entry port, simply because the was never an entry port. i cant find one single painting or photo before she was restored in dry dock with one.  if anyone can find a painting or photo of victory with a entry port pre dry dock please post it

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This artist’s impression from about 1779 shows Victory’s original appearance a few years after launch. There are some significant differences from how she looks today. The artist has described her as His Majesty’s ship Victory, a First Rate carrying 116 guns and a crew of 960. She is shown sailing by the White Cliffs of Dover.

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The side entry port is seen on all the pictures after 1870 - just one port more aft :-)

 

Vic was planned with a side entry port of the old fashion. Until then it is widely seen in models, drafts, painings and drawings. In about 1760 it disappears on paintings (painters convention?) and also drafts (unimportant detail?) perhaps a side effect of the war of independence and others? 

 

But on the other side, the reported armament of the Vic always is one gun per side short, so one "good" gunport always was to stay empty.

 

By 1800´s the side entry port reappears in drawings and models, so it is pure speculation if or if not she was fitted with one in 1803 while the great repair. But it is a toooooo nice detail to build so I take this place of liberty :-)

 

Cheers, Daniel

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Thank you Kevin, did not know this one. The only one of this time is the famous painting from Monamy Swain with no port, but this was the other side of the ship.

 

So this leaves the question: port or no port or just one sided? You have the choice :-)

 

XXDAn

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After the second side entry port here another "unfinished business": One of the 4 rows of draughtmarks was still missing.

 

After some fights with the other rows I tried  a new way ...

 

... glued the parts face down on both sided tape ...

 

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.. and sprayed the back with spray glue. Then cut loose ...

 

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... flipped up and grabbed with pliers (no tweezers!) ...

 

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... placed it and pressed in place with some tweezers. 

 

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Still can be moved around and be turned in peace and quiet ...

 

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...and applied some very thin CA with a pointed wooden stick for permanent fixation. 

 

Better result than the other ones and in record time and no part flew int nirvana :-)

 

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XXXDAn

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Still to do this, so thanks for showing Daniel :rolleyes:.

 

Great to see you back on deck again with your ship.

 

I have been trying to find some Information on the side ports.

 

I believe as I think you do that there must have been a cover of some sort for bad weather and in action.

 

I have seen on the real Victory, a canvas door that rolls up and seized with ropes.

 

Also it protrudes out to let any rain/water deflect back into the sea.

 

Again On the Victory there are partitions that hinge up to the beams, this also could have been the method for securing the side port entrance's.

 

Again lovely detail and thanks for showing the way.

 

Frank :piratebo5:

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