bsmall Posted October 9, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 9, 2014 The French 74 L'Entreprenant (launched 1751 at Brest) was destroyed during Siege of Louisbourg (1758). Would "The Seventy Four Gun Ship" by Boudriot be useful for modelling her? I ask because I am dispersing a large collection of maritime history and ship modelling books from the estate of an acquaintance. The first three volumes of Boudriot's series are part of the collection. I am not very knowledgeable about this period and can't really tell weather Boudriot's books cover all French 74s or just a subset from a particular period. Building the L'Entreprenant would be a project for the distant future but there is little sense in my selling the books if they might be useful to me at some point. Thanks Brian Quote Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 9, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 9, 2014 Hi Brian. "The Seventy Four Gun Ship" is a wonderful series, and I would imagine that it would shed a lot of light on your subject. However, Boudriot, in his forward to volume 1, he states that the series is a window into the French 74 circa 1780. Undoubtedly, L'Entreprenant would have been slightly different in design and construction being built nearly three decades prior. WackoWolf 1 Quote -- Jason www.crowntimberyard.com Current Builds: US Brig Syren MS Imperial Russian Cruiser Varyag - Artwox Model Echo Cross Section: SMSNJ Group Build Completed Builds: 18th Century Longboat MS USS Olympia Encore Member: Nautical Research Guild (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmall Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks Jason,That's exactly the type of answer I'm looking for. I have some very specific projects in mind for the future and will only keep those books that fit the program. If I'm not carful I'll wind-up with 300 books I don't really need! They are beautiful but perhaps Boudriot's books should go in the sell pile. Thanks, Brian Quote Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted October 12, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 12, 2014 Hey Brian, If you decide to sell those volumes of the 74 gun ship, l'd interested. PM me what you have avaible . Sincere Regards, Bill Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted October 31, 2014 Share #5 Posted October 31, 2014 If I had ANY of the series of these books I would not part with them. They are rather expensive and difficult to come by and these attributes are matched with spectacular comprehensive content that is beautiful. Its on my list of "if I ever win the lottery" things I would buy for myself if price was no object, in fact they would be near the top of the list. WackoWolf and mtaylor 2 Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmall Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted November 2, 2014 If I had ANY of the series of these books I would not part with them. They are rather expensive and difficult to come by and these attributes are matched with spectacular comprehensive content that is beautiful. Its on my list of "if I ever win the lottery" things I would buy for myself if price was no object, in fact they would be near the top of the list. I agree 100%; they are beautiful books. I acquired them as part of maritime library from the estate of an acquaintance. There are about 200 books in boxes covering the floor of my tiny office. As I've catalogued them I've learned (mostly from MSW) that many are rare or desirable. This makes it hard for me to part with them. But when I agreed to take the collection I made a promise to myself only to keep what was truly going to be useful to me. Given the number of projects I have planned or underway across all my hobbies I will never get to build a 74 of the type described in Boudriot's wonderful books. So I will probably sell it along with at least 80% of the rest of the collection. Once I've finished sorting them I will give my model ship club first dibs and then I will bring them here. Regards, Brian WackoWolf 1 Quote Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 2, 2014 Share #7 Posted November 2, 2014 There's a ship model club in Edmonton, Alberta? bsmall 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmall Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) True enough we're 1000kms from the nearest salt water but there is indeed a model ship club in Edmonton! We're celebrating our 30th anniversary this year.Alberta Ship Model Societyhttp://albertashipmodelsociety.ca Brian Edited November 2, 2014 by bsmall JerseyCity Frankie 1 Quote Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 2, 2014 Share #9 Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Well, congratulations, Albertan ship modelers! Thanks also for the url, Brian. Edited November 2, 2014 by druxey Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 2, 2014 Share #10 Posted November 2, 2014 Hey Brian, If you decide to sell those volumes of the 74 gun ship, l'd interested. PM me what you have avaible . Sincere Regards, Bill The same here how about posting them. I remember perusing some books by Boudrout very nice but I was building anything like what they were describing so I did not buy them. Bob Freidman from Seawatch LLC tried to get them translated in English but was informed that there would be no English versions for a long time. My french is lousy and therefore I never bought any. David B bsmall 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted November 2, 2014 Share #11 Posted November 2, 2014 Gents you can buy the 74 Gun Series in English directly from Ancre for 116 US dollars a piece new. Most resellers try to sell copies of used ones for much more than this. Chris uss frolick, WackoWolf, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Griffith Posted November 3, 2014 Share #12 Posted November 3, 2014 Brian, the Boudriot series of books on the French 74 is VERY useful and indispensable in building a 74 for the 1751 period. I use these anytime I build an 18th C French warship (I am currently building one of 1785). These were also very useful for my Soleil Royal of 1689. i too am interested in buying some books when you are ready. Duff bsmall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted November 4, 2014 Share #13 Posted November 4, 2014 I bought the first 2 about 5 years ago. I have the third one in .PDF forum. So for now I am lucky. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 4, 2014 Share #14 Posted November 4, 2014 It seems that Volume 4 in English is the pricey one.... WackoWolf 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted November 4, 2014 Share #15 Posted November 4, 2014 Yea and thats the one about the way it was to be a sailor on the ship. The first 3 are about building her and the fourth about manning her. But I am probably wrong. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mij Posted November 4, 2014 Share #16 Posted November 4, 2014 The Admiral bought me Volume 1 in an old book shop in Greenwich U.K. for £75.00 about 16 years ago. The other 3 Volumes, I was lucky to buy from Amazon at a very good price over the years. Regards mij Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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