mobbsie Posted November 1, 2014 Share #1 Posted November 1, 2014 First off let me say Hello to all the Lords of the Dark Side, your tolerance will be gratefully accepted. I would like to give plaudits to Jeff Hayes of Hobbymills for superb quality materials, the timber really is first class, also to Jeff Staudt for a fine set of drawings. A special thanks to Grant for all his hard work in working out the quantity of timber required and the different types, I just had to make some minor adjustments to the order. Below is a taster of the timber to be used. As you are probably aware this is a group project build with Grant, Jack and myself, ( at the moment ), this the first scratch build for all of us apart from prefabricating kits parts that were not happy with and I think we've all done that. It would be great if others wanted to join in. We will be working in unison and posting in our own logs and this is the start of my log. I started by practicing with my tools and would you believe it this framing jig appeared, as this was a practice piece and it didn't count towards the build but on investigation I found I hadn't got any more material I could use and so had to keep it. Following on from the jig, I started practicing on the frames themselves and I found out a few things I need to work on, 1st, Don't cut so close to the lines, give your self a bit of room. 2nd, Easy on the sanders, don't put so much pressure when sanding down and 3rd, It doesn't take much to remove the skin from the knuckles with a disc sander, this had been switched of and was slowing down, I helped it stop and found out how good my bandaids are. I made a double frame but will not be using it, I can and will do better. Following on from that I attempted the Keel, this is made up from 4 pieces, Ebony for the Keel, followed by Swiss Pear for the False Keel Upper and Lower and the Hog. This Keel looks difficult but in reality is quite simple, you just need to be accurate, a rabbet is cut into it when all the pieces are assembled. I was going to use my router for this but there is a deviation 2/3rds along it's length so this had to be cut by hand, I used my trusty Stanley knife carefully, (we have a history) and finished with a triangle file. Below is the completed practice keel So, that's the start of my new log, if anyone has any questions please don't be afraid to ask Grant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be Good mobbsie bensid54, avsjerome2003, zoly99sask and 22 others 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted November 1, 2014 Share #2 Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Jumping right into the front row on this one, since I'm building the Caldercraft kit of the Granado at the moment. Great start. Did you loft the frames yourself and what source did you use for the plans! Really looking forward tot he build Mobbsie! Edited November 1, 2014 by Joe V. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted November 1, 2014 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2014 Good luck Tony!!...... looks to be an interesting build. Frank mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted November 1, 2014 Hi Joe, I must apologise for any confusion, I am building the cross section, the heading needs to be changed to reflect that. The plans came from model ship builders, here is a link http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?135 They really are a good set of drawings. With regard to the frames, they are cut out from the timber billets, I will post a couple of pics to show you. Best way to go is to copy the original page onto sticky A4 labels, these are then cut and placed onto the wood, a tip gleamed from Grant is to put painters tape on the wood first. Cut out the frame sections and sand down to just above the lines, position the sections onto the main label, clean up the joints until a snug fit is obtained, when you are happy with the fit glue together using PVA white glue, when dry clean off excess glue and sand down to the lines. Hope that makes sense Joe. Be Good mobbsie jwvolz, gjdale, scratch and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted November 1, 2014 Share #5 Posted November 1, 2014 Ah, thanks Mobbsie. I knew there were the cross section plans out there. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 1, 2014 Share #6 Posted November 1, 2014 Ah... seats still available. Your practice work looks great, Tony. WackoWolf and mobbsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted November 1, 2014 Share #7 Posted November 1, 2014 I purchased the plans in 1:24 scale. Anxious to start but have too many irons in the fire right now! Dave mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 1, 2014 Share #8 Posted November 1, 2014 Good to see the log up and running Mobbsie. Don't go doing too much "practice" now, or you'll end up like Rusty's infamous "set-up"! mobbsie and Rustyj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted November 1, 2014 Thanks for the comments guys, and thanks for hitting the like button. Pull up a pew Mark, your always welcome. It's going to be an interesting build Frank, more importantly an enjoyable one. Never mind Dave, you may be able to play catch up, this is going to be a slow build. Now Grant, I've served in the Army and seen active service, but let me tell you, I would do that all over again rather than cheat and face the wrath of an Ausie Naval Officer, I aint that brave. Anja, thank you so much for helping out an old man who cant help making mistakes. Hopefully more updates soon. Be Good mobbsie mtaylor, egkb, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted November 1, 2014 Share #10 Posted November 1, 2014 Hello Tony, You are more then welcome. Good luck with your build. Anja mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted November 1, 2014 Share #11 Posted November 1, 2014 This is going to be awesome - looking forward to following your build Mobbsie! mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted November 1, 2014 Share #12 Posted November 1, 2014 Hey Mobbsie, I'd like to grab a seat and follow along with the gaggle. I'm jumping into an Echo cross section build soon and need all the examples of any scratchbuilds. Best of luck. alangr4 and mobbsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangr4 Posted November 1, 2014 Share #13 Posted November 1, 2014 Looks like the Echo cross section crew have reserved seating for this project. I see they have kept me a seat. Grabbing a pie and some liquid. Already seeing a couple of differences to how we go about things. Good luck with the build mobbsie. Alan Canute and mobbsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Panzeca Posted November 2, 2014 Share #14 Posted November 2, 2014 Congratulations Mobbsie! Great start, I will jump in as soon as my timber arrives. It is nice to study what you guys are doing before I start making sawdust. Can't wait to join you and Grant. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted November 2, 2014 Share #15 Posted November 2, 2014 I'm a little late but I'll be here ! Mark, make room for me please..... He is all ready started ????? I will follow those guy's with what they are doing Wisch you all a smooth build ! Sjors mtaylor and mobbsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted November 2, 2014 Share #16 Posted November 2, 2014 Arrr ... count me in !!! mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted November 2, 2014 Hi Guys, Mike, glad to have you on board mate, I just hope I am able to full-fill your expectations. Ken, your right mate, a few Echo gents are here, hope we are able to assist with useful info mate. Alan, now that Sjors has taken a seat mate we do have Popcorn on offer, cos if pies are around I'll likely eat them. Sjors, better late than never my friend, I just hope you brought your Popcorn with you. Captainsteve, welcome aboard me arty. Hope you enjoy the ride guys, I'm really looking forward to this trip. Be Good mobbsie CaptainSteve and trippwj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted November 2, 2014 Share #18 Posted November 2, 2014 Here you are Mobbsie, Sjors mtaylor, mobbsie, trippwj and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted November 7, 2014 Share #19 Posted November 7, 2014 Dang - been wicked busy and almost missed this one! Nice looking "practice" work, Tony!!! I think I see a seat in the 3rd row near Sjors I'll grab so I can follow along as well. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted November 7, 2014 Hi Wayne, Hang on mate, I'll get a torch and show you to your seat, bloody dark in here. Good to have you along my friend. Be Good mobbsie gjdale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 7, 2014 Share #21 Posted November 7, 2014 Wow, this log sneaked under my radar...looking very nice so far Mobbsie. How did you cut out the template, is there a plan for that? mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share #22 Posted November 8, 2014 Hi Jason, Thanks for looking in mate. There is no plan for cutting the templates. The plan is copied onto A4 sticky labels and a sharp blade used to cut around each part ( I use a Stanley Knife ). Painters tape is placed on the timber sheet and the template stuck onto that. The painters tape peels off so much easier and doesn't leave any residue glue. The frames were cut out using my Proxxon Scroll saw and sanded down with my Belt and Disc sanders. Hope that helps mate. Be Good mobbsie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 9, 2014 Share #23 Posted November 9, 2014 Hi Tony, I missed that you finished your Aggy and started this one. Now that I've found your build I'll definately follow along. I wish you the best of luck! mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted November 9, 2014 Hi Guys, Welcome aboard Wes, glad you could make it mate. Just a short update, nothing much to show at the moment. I have completed the proper keel and it fits nicely into the framing jig, the practice piece and the proper one to show that there has been no Following a discussion with Grant this morning it was decided that we would start on the frames, I decided that I was going to make-up the 0 frame, this is the 5th frame in and is the first double to have the cut outs for the sweep ports and filling lintels. I haven't made one of these yet. First up was to copy the template onto a A4 sticky label, cut out the templates and stick onto a prepared sheet 1/4 in Pear. Using my trusty Proxxon Scroll Saw ( which only cuts crooked lines ) I then cut out the parts of the frame, the wedges which are really small have a bit extra left for easy handling. Next up was to sand down the frame parts, so using my trusty Proxxon Disc Sander ( you know the one, it's got my DNA on it ) I sanded down the outside curve, why just the outside I hear you ask, well I need to get a larger diameter drum sander. Its too easy to wear down a small area with the sander I have and that doesn't make for a pretty frame, so it's a trip down to the DIY shop to try a get hold of one. I do have a few pics but please don't get excited, this is really work in progress. The old and the new Not much as I say but there will be more to follow, just not tonight. Please ignore the attached thumbnail gents. Be Good mobbsie riverboat, trippwj, Canute and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 9, 2014 Share #25 Posted November 9, 2014 Looks pretty exciting to me! mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted November 9, 2014 Share #26 Posted November 9, 2014 puts a case of belgian beer next to the popcorn machine and sits down to watch the show mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 9, 2014 Share #27 Posted November 9, 2014 Looking good Mobbsie, Let me know how you go with the drum sander - my offer stands I'm going to have another crack at frame D tonight - I'll post pics on completion. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Panzeca Posted November 9, 2014 Share #28 Posted November 9, 2014 Looking great Mobbsie! I am trying hard to finish the Oseberg. I cannot seem to concentrate on it though. My mind drifts to the Granado and I have to drag myself back. Talk to you soon. mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted November 10, 2014 Share #29 Posted November 10, 2014 Mobbsie, I'll be seeing what you are doing and it seems that you have to do a lot of cutting and sanding....... It holds you from the street ! Sjors mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 13, 2014 Share #30 Posted November 13, 2014 Hey there Mobbsie.......knew I'd find you sooner or later! I see your making fine use of all the new power tools did you make the jig from plans? mobbsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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