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Thank you everyone for your comments, likes, and just looking in.  I appreciate the encouragement and support!

 

Whether it be the moon, the odiferous vinegar stain solution, or hunkering down from the bitter cold in upstate New York, work on the cutter is still at a standstill.

 

I look at it every day, however, and I hope to be back at it soon.

 

Ron

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I'd like to say, Ron, that your build is an inspiration for myself and - no doubt - many others. 

 

My Syren kit just arrived and although it will be my first build, I intend to add various levels of additional detail and do some element of scratch building of minor parts where I feel confident enough in order to get my skills up. Little things matter, and your blog has given me some very good ideas around how to construct the sheaves in the bullwarks, build the catheads, etc.

 

Very impressive and thank you!

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Marsares,

 

Thank you very much for your comments.   I wish you good luck building your Syren.   As you mentioned it's your first build, I'll just say Don't Rush!   The kit and Chuck Passaro's instructions are first-class; take your time and enjoy it. 

 

Ron

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Alistair,

 

In response to your subtly (or not so) asked "why?", I can only respond: "I don't know!"

 

Psychologically, though, it probably is a useful question. 

 

Rest assured, I will take up the model again.   I've been observing some other ship's boats being built by B.E. and others, and it's making me think I just need to finish the damn thing.

 

Ron

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Hi Ron

I certainly wasn't asking you "why?". I was implying that some people here push others to carry on and ask for updates when the builder has their own personal reasons for not wanting to, or being unable to, or being in a "I don't know" state to carry on for the time being. Whenever you are back at it is when you are back at it and I'll never push you, or anyone else here, for an explanation. It is each to his own. That is what I was trying to say.

 

My own lull is due to going around in circles trying to fix tiny issues and not being able to get on with the big bits that progress the model. Like a writers cramp - trying to fix the last chapter and instead making it worse when I should be starting the next. If you know what I mean...Anyway whenever you are back at it I'm sure there are many here - me included - who will relish it.

 

Best regards

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I myself spend hours, over days, which fade into weeks, watching others without progressing myself. Although lulls in building that appear that way outwardly, often are rather busy in our own minds, making decisions and working through obstacles, both perceived and real. Learning by watching others.
I'm completely satisfied with Ron's "I don't know" as it make completely good sense to me.
 
All I know is that I'm thankful for all that Ron has shown and taught me about building, of the greatest things, I think the fact that patience and perseverance lead to quality is one of the best learned from his build. I'm sure his build log is worth another reread, the good ones are :)

 

All I know is that I'll be here when "I don't know" becomes pictures again, quality is worth the wait.

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Hi Ron -- Glad to hear you're getting geared up.  Like plenty of others, I enjoy seeing your fine work.  And I can appreciate how lulls happen (which I think amounts to saying, how no-happenings happen).

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

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Greetings, everyone.   Soon didn't turn out to be soon.  It's inconceivable to me that it has been three years since I last worked on Oneida.

 

But here is something new, work continues on the ships boat--

 

On the left is my first attempt at the bow platform--disastrous.  Then I got a little smarter and made a heavy paper template, made up of a central shape fitting within the frames, and then gluing pieces on to create the notch spacing, as I test fit it.  On the right is the new blank to be cut--

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Next is the template traced on the blank--

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And in place--

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Then I carved and sanded two supports that will be used to house the boat on the ship's deck--

 

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That's all for now

Ron

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Hello Ron,

 

When a small boat looks so graceful, who wants to build anything bigger?

 

I thought you´d like to know I still have the early part of your build log on my hard drive.  378 pages in all, 72,6 Mt saved as pdf. Just in case you cannot find your pics.

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Thank you Russ and Martin, nice to hear from you both.

 

Andante, thanks.  Good to know you have a record!  

 

Work continues on the cutter.   I've spent just a little time most days this week.  At least it's progress!

 

Making the seats and thwarts--

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They are test fit here, not glued yet--

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Still many parts to make.

 

Ron

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Do-overs.

 

I wasn't happy with the way I did the seats and thwarts.  I followed a mixture of sources, but after studying more examples, it seemed a mess. And I don't know where I came up with the shape of the thwart that supports the mast.  It seemed reasonable when I made it, but not so much now.

 

I made another template for the seats.  This time I will cut out the frame notches (as I will for the thwarts also).  I hoped that I could re-use the side seats, as they were wider than I liked (now with notches cut in, they would, in effect, become narrower).  The back seat will have to be a new piece.  Also, take note of the mast step sitting there in the boat, not glued yet--

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Instead of laying the side seats on top of the back seat, as in the previous version, I wanted to make a single u-shaped bench--

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And instead of the simple rolled edge that I had made for the seats and thwarts before, I opted for a more detailed, scraped profile edge--

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So far so good--

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Unfortunately, during the numerous test fittings, the little mast step piece went missing.  So, unless I miraculously find it, that will be another do-over.

 

Ron

 

 

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Ron:

Nice details. I like the edge detail on the seat. Your use of hand tools always gets me thinking. :)

 

As for the mast step, I would go ahead and make a new one. You might find the other one, but it would take longer than it would to make a new most likely. :) That is how these things always work for me. 

 

Russ

 

 

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Thanks, Russ.

 

Ed (Ebomba) and hamilton, I'm glad you are still here to follow the continuation of this model.  I now feel a strong desire to finish, so I hope it will keep moving.

 

Here's just a tidbit, hopefully I'll have more to post sometime this weekend.  Rough cuts of the thwarts, and notice I have cut back the bow piece to more closely match the layout  sketch I originally made on the plug--

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I keep looking on the table, and the floor, for the AWOL mast step (It's GOT to be here SOMEwhere), but as you said Russ, It'll be quicker to just make another one.  Dang.

 

Ron

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The third try on the mast support thwart was acceptable--

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For the first two, I glued a small piece on to the standard width thwart.  Easier to shape that way.  On version 1 the wood matched perfectly, you can't tell it's added on.   But I didn't like the shape, or the rolled edge of the thwart.  On the second, the color didn't match well, and you could see a slight joint gap because I didn't have the faces perfectly square, (light sawdust is filling the gap in in the photo).  The shape is okay, but the final straw was when I chipped a part of it trying to speed things up with a blade instead of a file.

 

On the third try, I started with a wider piece--obviously more material to remove, so a slightly more complicated process, but successful in the end.  

 

The thwarts have been shaped and cut around the frames--

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Making another mast step--

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Here's how Oneida's boat looks after cutting the edge profile on the thwarts and fitting them in place (not glued yet).  This time, I will not cut the mast step from it's "handle" until I'm ready to glue it!--

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The angle and shadows of this photo do a really good job of hiding a lot of imperfections!   Believe me, they are there.

 

Next will be making the rudder, some iron work, and the oars.  I'm also starting to cook up another batch of ebony stain for the "gunnels" on this boat, and while I'm at it, the deadeyes for the ship.

 

Ron

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On 11/28/2013 at 7:48 PM, rlb said:

Holes are marked and drilled in the deck for the aft posts--

 

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   I've been going through your build log for the last few nights and am impressed with your drive to make it as accurate as possible.  Not to many modelers will look at some feature, decide they can do it better and then take that one out and replace it with the new and improved version. I tend to do the same thing, so I know the feeling. 

    One thing that I noticed here is that the fore bits go through the main deck into the lower deck, but the aft bits are just pinned into the main deck.  Is this the way they are attached on the actual ships or is there something done that just isn't visible below decks?  If it was just pinned in place, it would appear that not much strain on the belayed lines could yank it right off the deck.

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