shipaholic Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share #271 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) More work on the cannon. I am setting up just one of the guns with tackles appearing ready to use instead of the rope expended by wrapping around the rope between the blocks and also with the train tackle fitted Edited April 12, 2015 by shipaholic Captain Slog, Karleop, msberkman and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #272 Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) The question I raised with myself a few days ago about what might be the correct method of rigging the gun tackles has been bugging me. The diagram from Ray Parkin's book convinced me that the diagram I followed from the AOTS is wrong. Endeavour's guns did not have that third, higher, eyebolt on each side that are shown on the AOTS diagram so rigging the tackles to the rail posts doesn't work when the tackes are hooked to the lower eyebolt. The tackles would foul with the recoil ropes when the gun is fired. So I re-rigged all of the guns today to what I think is the correct configuration. Guns are finally finished, now I can go back to rigging the shrouds. Cheers Edited April 12, 2015 by shipaholic msberkman and Captain Slog 2 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #273 Posted April 12, 2015 More pics Captain Slog and Karleop 2 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHoldinghausen Posted April 12, 2015 Share #274 Posted April 12, 2015 Steve! Fantastic build I must say. Your decks looks awsome. Sadly this log starts after they have been laid. Could you please tell how you finished them? What kind of wood? What color/varnish etc. Keep it up Cheers! Quote Finishing Titanic 1/350 scale from Minicraft, Plastic. Partly scratch. Loads of PhotoEtch. Upcoming builds: Syren from MS 1:64, Pegasus from Victory Models 1:64, Surprise from AL 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #275 Posted April 12, 2015 Hi VonHoldinghausen Thanks for the compliment. The decks are the planks provided with the kit, I blackened the edges with a soft pencil to simulate caulking and the nail holes are drawn on with a pencil. No special coating just two coats of sanding sealer. I don't have many pics of the actual laying of the deck Cheers Steve msberkman, Captain Slog, DaveRow and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHoldinghausen Posted April 12, 2015 Share #276 Posted April 12, 2015 Thank you Steve. Great Cheers! Quote Finishing Titanic 1/350 scale from Minicraft, Plastic. Partly scratch. Loads of PhotoEtch. Upcoming builds: Syren from MS 1:64, Pegasus from Victory Models 1:64, Surprise from AL 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallshiptragic Posted April 12, 2015 Share #277 Posted April 12, 2015 Just to let you know. The replica has two binnacles either side of the skylight. robin b 1 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share #278 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Hi Today I was busy making the futtock staves and catharpins on the foremast shrouds, I also made all the hooks for the futtock shrouds. These special pliers make the hook-making easier. The futtock staves are made of served thread, I thought they might be too flexible but they are fine. The futtock staves on real ships are served rope so i thought I would keep it authentic. The catharpins are also served, their length has to be perfect otherwise they pull the shrouds together or allow the shrouds to spread once the topmast shrouds are fitted. Cheers Steve Edited April 19, 2015 by shipaholic robin b, edmay, Captain Slog and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share #279 Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Some innovation I started making the lower stays and was thinking how I would make the mouse. I have seen other builders on this site weave the knittled cover using thread, and I thought, nup, not me. I came up with a better idea - can I use something that is already woven, like some sort of fabric? Then I thought what about wound dressing? I tried it and it worked brilliantly, its already adhesive and very flexible so it moulds around the mouse (made of wood). Once I blacken the stay with black paint and it will look pretty right I reckon. This one is the fore preventer stay which is smaller than the fore stay, the effect will probably be better on the bigger mouse of the fore stay. I knocked this one up pretty quick just to see how it would turn out so the serving is a bit rough. When I make the next one I will take some pics and create a separate post in the section on rigging. Cheers Steve Edited April 22, 2015 by shipaholic Ian B, Captain Slog, dashi and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 22, 2015 Share #280 Posted April 22, 2015 G'day Steve Great job so far! Where did you get those pliers? Great idea on the mouse! Cheers Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slog Posted April 22, 2015 Share #281 Posted April 22, 2015 Wow Steve, very clever (and good looking) mouse! Nice. Cheers Slog Quote _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ HM Bark Endeavour (First Wood, On Hold) Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build) Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200) Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) F-8 Crusader (1:48 Aircraft, Plastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share #282 Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks Slog Greg, I can't remember where I got those pliers they came in a set of four different ones, I think it was Hobby Tools Australia www.hobbytools.com.au I just had a look on their site but couldn't find the ones I have but they have lots of other good stuff Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slog Posted April 22, 2015 Share #283 Posted April 22, 2015 The pliers have got Micro Mark written on them. Isn't that the name of a US tool place? Cheers Slog Quote _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ HM Bark Endeavour (First Wood, On Hold) Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build) Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200) Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) F-8 Crusader (1:48 Aircraft, Plastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 22, 2015 Share #284 Posted April 22, 2015 Steve Thanks I've found them at the site you gave me. They are called trip pin bending pliers. Cheers mate Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share #285 Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Slightly different Greg, Maybe Hobby Tools don't have them any more but yes Slog they are on the Micro Mark website Edited April 22, 2015 by shipaholic Captain Slog 1 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 22, 2015 Share #286 Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks again Steve. I'll check their website. Been looking on ebay, tooooo expensive, most are from the States, so postage is the killer. Cheers Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted April 23, 2015 Share #287 Posted April 23, 2015 Mate that wound dressing effect is brilliant - can you advise the brand etc and where you go it. I was going to leave my smaller ones bare wood until I saw this and with the damage issue; gives me a chance to revisit and use this stuff. Thanks for sharing. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share #288 Posted April 23, 2015 Hi Pat I used Elastoplast Heavy Fabric, there a few different ones available, depends on the texture you need for your scale. I got mine at Woolworths Cheers Steve Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted April 23, 2015 Share #289 Posted April 23, 2015 Absolutely brilliant idea re mouse. that should go on the front page of this website. Quote Curently working on: Finishing details to Victory http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4931-mamoli-victory-by-mikec-final-finishing/ Eaglemoss Endeavour http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3078-hmb-endeavour-by-mikec-eaglemoss/page-4 Previous build: HMS Victory http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/member/5894-mikec/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share #290 Posted April 23, 2015 Thanks Mike Yeah it was one of those eureka moments. I was initially looking at gauze bandage in the supermarket then I saw the Elastoplast and thought yes that's it, texture was right, flexible to mould around the mouse and self adhesive so it would stay in place long enough until it's sealed permanently with glue or paint Cheers Steve DaveRow 1 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted April 24, 2015 Share #291 Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks Steve, I went looking yesterday in a Chemist and couldn't find anything - should have known to go the supermarket Did you use any glue or just the adhesive? If only the adhesive, you obviously believe the tackiness will last a lifetime. It is a really clever idea and one of those that should be in the 'shop notes' for all modellers. Thanks again Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share #292 Posted April 24, 2015 Hi Pat Yes I put a little bit of PVA on where the ends join and I will be painting it black so the paint will also help hold it permanently. No I wouldn't rely on the adhesive on the dressing to hold it forever. Steve Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 24, 2015 Share #293 Posted April 24, 2015 G'day Steve I agree with Pat 100%. You should put your idea on http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4679-the-kit-bashers-guide-to-the-galaxy/. it's for all the great ideas to help others, and yours is on top of the pile. Cheers Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted April 25, 2015 Share #294 Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks for that feedback Steve; it confirmed the thoughts I had on it also. Now that I have repaired my foremast, I will also get a chance to add this detail - a very timey 'light bulb' moment by you many thanks again Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponto Posted April 25, 2015 Share #295 Posted April 25, 2015 Some innovation I started making the lower stays and was thinking how I would make the mouse. I have seen other builders on this site weave the knittled cover using thread, and I thought, nup, not me. I came up with a better idea - can I use something that is already woven, like some sort of fabric? Then I thought what about wound dressing? I tried it and it worked brilliantly, its already adhesive and very flexible so it moulds around the mouse (made of wood). Once I blacken the stay with black paint and it will look pretty right I reckon. This one is the fore preventer stay which is smaller than the fore stay, the effect will probably be better on the bigger mouse of the fore stay. I knocked this one up pretty quick just to see how it would turn out so the serving is a bit rough. When I make the next one I will take some pics and create a separate post in the section on rigging. Cheers Steve This is brilliant... and I'll follow suit when the time comes. JP Quote Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share #296 Posted April 26, 2015 Fore preventer stay fitted Captain Slog, DaveRow, kiwiron and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 26, 2015 Share #297 Posted April 26, 2015 Great work, LOVE the mouses or is it mice on all the stays? Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share #298 Posted April 26, 2015 Thanks Greg, it's mouse because I've only done one so far :-) kiwiron and Captain Slog 2 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share #299 Posted April 26, 2015 I started setting up the fore stay. I wormed the rope and temporarily rigged it in place to work out where the serving, mouse and eye will go. According to my sources a ship this size had a fore stay made of 10" rope, which equates to 1.58mm diameter at this scale. I am using 1.57 mm Syren rope, but when I measure it with a calliper its 1.90mm. It looks a little too thick. The preventer stay is okay, it's made from 1.14mm rope and when I measure it with the caliber it's about 1.1mm, so pretty right. I might have to order the next smaller size for the fore stay. DaveRow, kiwiron, tarbrush and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted April 26, 2015 Share #300 Posted April 26, 2015 Hi Steve, I agree the forestay looks too big. I've done a bit of work converting the ropes and blocks on the masts from "The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship 1794 by David steel. It is from a ship 400 to 450 tons(closest tons I could source). Actually it was a lot of data entry and calculations in MS Excel. For Scale 1:60 The Fore Mast: Forestay 4 strands 11" dia with 14" heart conversion 1.5mm dia with 6mm heart Preventor 4 strands 7" with 11" heart conversion 0.9mm dia with 5mm heart With what sizes are available from suppliers, go with what we can source. Otherwise will be making our own - not me though. Cheers Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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