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My steady stream of questions never seem to end.

 

I study build logs many times a week as well as the other forums to learn all that I can.  One problem that I have and must have missed the solution is how to drill straight holes through dowels, in particular the sides.

 

I make a lot of ships in a bottles (these are very thin dowels) for grand-kids and silent auctions at charity groups.  When working on any scale ship, accurate placement of mast or spar holes is essential.

 

I have created "V's" out of wood to cradle the dowel and help to center it, but then the very thin drill bits will often bend and roll off target.  I have filed a flat spot to try to help stay on target, but it does not mean that there will be consistent results across all of the stock of dowels. 

 

I have a Dremel with work station, push drill, and hand drill that I turn manually so there is no shortage of tools or bits.

 

Any suggestions for consistent results???

 

Chuck

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You might try to find something like these:  http://www.micromark.com/4-piece-Center-Drill-Set,7952.html   I'm not sure how small you want to go....  Have you tried center tapping using a small nail?

Mark
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Try clamping the dowel in a small vise and use an awl to make a centre mark.

 

:cheers:  Danny

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I would use a knife point to get the hole centered and then use a twist drill while holding the dowel in your hand. Go slow and there should not be a problem.

 

Russ

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A v-style clamping jig centered and mounted over the drill hole in your drill-press table, with the dowel fed up from underneath to the right height? Guaranteed repeatable results every time. :) Provided you have a drill press of course.  :rolleyes:

 

 

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Hi Chuck

 

Sounds like you have a dremel set up as a drill press.

 

I'd suggest putting a block against a fence and drilling a hole through a block the size of your spar then turn it over keeping the same edge of the block against your fence and drill a cross hole the size you want to drill through the dowel. Using the fence this way will ensure the centres are aligned.

 

Slip your dowel into the block, align it to the fence and when you drill the dowel, the block will stop the bit wandering as it starts into the dowel.

 

Mark

 

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I use a bulletin board pin to make the center mark. Indent it in just enough to get a small twist drill started.

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Chuck, try a jig made from scrap square.  Drill out / bore the square first to the size of your dowel  (if you have a mate with a lathe get them to do it - much more accurate), then cut it in half.  This makes the placement and holding of the round dowels much easier.  You can have several sizes all ready to go. Select the appropriate size, hold it vertically/horizontally in a vice and centre it (again easier using the square).

 

A couple of tips; cut dowels to a minimum workable length - the longer the piece the harder to keep it aligned for the vertical bore.  For horizontal drilling, use the same jig - again much easier to find the centre line.  For regular  (repeatable) positioning of these holes use a stop for the round dowel once you have measured up for the first drill. As long as you have taken the time to make the square (jig) centred the rest is a production line effort.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Mark's suggestion of using a center drill is spot on. They come in a variety of sizes and obviously work best in a drill press. You can get them extremely small. For example: http://www.webmachinist.net/centerdrilldimensions.html

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Thanks for the link, Greg. I didn't know they went THAT small... 

Mark
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Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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