piratepete007 Posted January 18, 2015 Share #1 Posted January 18, 2015 Now I might be a little lacking in knowledge in some areas of ship building so I am asking what appears to be a simple question based on the following diagram (poor quality, I know) taken from some ship plans. Viewing the image, forward in the ship is to the right. With the wheel in this position, it seems to me that the helmsman would have to have his back to the bow (?) or was it not uncommon to stand aft of the wheel on one side ? My logic is confusing me so can some sane person explain what is probably a simple answer ? Thanks. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted January 18, 2015 Share #2 Posted January 18, 2015 Pete, the helmsman (men in rough weather) stood to the side of the wheel not behind it. Hope this clarifies? cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadeusz43 Posted January 18, 2015 Share #3 Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Pete, It looked like that. Tadeusz druxey, JesseLee, AlexAl and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgdawson Posted January 18, 2015 Share #4 Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Pete Typically the helmsman is watching the luffs of the sails, particularly when beating so I imagine he would stand to the weather side of the wheel to give himself the best view possible, similar to the helmsman on a yacht today is most often seen on the weather side of the helm where they can watch the luff of the genoa. Occasionally you'll see a yachts helmsman to leeward but if you look carefully they're looking under the mainsail to see the luff of the genoa. Mark D uss frolick 1 Quote Mark D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratepete007 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks so much ... so obvious when you hear the real facts and the reasons behind them. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 18, 2015 Share #6 Posted January 18, 2015 The above answers your question but I must comment on the drawing you posted. You are right, the quality is a bit off. How can the ends of the line wrapped around the drum both drop from the same side of the drum? Reminds me of some far out designs in Mad Magazine back in the day like the 2/3 tined fork in the attached picture. Allan mtaylor, qwerty2008, IgorSky and 1 other 4 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jud Posted January 18, 2015 Share #7 Posted January 18, 2015 Like was noted, 'poor quality sketch'. What I find intreaging is how the tiller was rigged in Tadeusz's photos. Rudder post forward with the tiller leading aft. The long hub with the drums aft was another unusual method of rigging. Rigging the stearing gear that way would save deck space when the rudder post daylights on the main deck where this one does. jud druxey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 19, 2015 Share #8 Posted January 19, 2015 Allan: That is a tuning fork in 2 / 3 time; definitely not common time! CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAl Posted January 28, 2015 Share #9 Posted January 28, 2015 I am also thankfull for the explanation!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaincwil Posted April 29, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 29, 2015 optical illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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